Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[Biodom]

Everybody is too fast on uptake for both up and down.
I am fine holding, but having some cash does not hurt.
Those who say, buy 50% bitcoin, 50% stocks might be too early.
BTW, @LFC, FTSE 100 is at the 1998 level. 22 year returns are effectively ZERO, however, maybe a bargain now or soon.
Some predict the same for SP500-either going back to year 2000 levels (SP500 at 1400-1600) or, maybe no returns from here for the next 10-12 years.

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[AlcoHoDL]

https://brrr.money/
of course

Wow, just WOW!

[Last of the V8s]

[goldkingcoiner]

Whats with all these disgusting no-hatters on our WO thre- oh. A pump. I see.

[Ibian]

Who's that? The nullster? He's not too bad. Is he? Apart from rabbiting on. And on.

Worse than wordy man.

[Raja_MBZ]

[julian071]

Well, it took some time but finally the money from my 'debt restructuring' plan I made about a month ago came in. I actually stuck to the plan I had made a month ago and bought at whatever price BTC had at that moment. And for the very first time ever, the price didn't immediately tank after I bought! I think I broke the spell!

[Febo]

The European Central Bank has launched a 'bazooka' $820 billion pandemic fund to aid markets. 'There are no limits.'

The European Central Bank (ECB) has unveiled a new €750 billion ($820 billion) response to the coronavirus in a bid to calm financial markets.
The so-called Pandemic Emergency Purchase Programme (PEPP) comes less than a week after the central bank announced policies which did little to provide comfort to traders.
It follows similar plans by the Federal Reserve and numerous major economies to stem the damage from Covid-19.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/coronavirus-lagarde-announces-ecb-pandemic-fund-to-calm-markets-2020-3-1029011851

People would be happy if the money was distributed to families.

$1.5T in Repo
$1.1T Commercial paper relief
$1T in US fiscal stimulus
$750B QE from ECB
$600B QE from the Fed
$600B bank loan guarantee (France/UK)
$500B in loans (Germany)
$300B in Japanese stimulus (proposed)
$100B in fiscal stimulus across Europe


Craziest week ever!

[Cryptotourist]

#r0achcam

[JayJuanGee]

Who's that? The nullster? He's not too bad. Is he? Apart from rabbiting on. And on.

Worse than wordy man.

Not possible.  

Well, it took some time but finally the money from my 'debt restructuring' plan I made about a month ago came in. I actually stuck to the plan I had made a month ago and bought at whatever price BTC had at that moment. And for the very first time ever, the price didn't immediately tank after I bought! I think I broke the spell!

Did you at least get in at sub $6k?

[julian071]

Well, it took some time but finally the money from my 'debt restructuring' plan I made about a month ago came in. I actually stuck to the plan I had made a month ago and bought at whatever price BTC had at that moment. And for the very first time ever, the price didn't immediately tank after I bought! I think I broke the spell!

Did you at least get in at sub $6k?

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[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I talk bullish shit all the time. I'm a hardcore permabull 

There was a game from Bitcasino to predict the bitcoin price in Euro. Did you see how the guy who picked the lowest won the price. All of us thought the guy was crazy at least I did LOL

[AlcoHoDL]

Guys 'n' gals, I just can't believe what I'm reading...

The Halving is coming in May!

Let me say that again: The Halving is coming in 54 days!

Who, in their right mind, would sell any amount of Bitcoin at this time? (*) To sell any amount of hard earned coins now is equivalent to admitting that you do not understand how Bitcoin works and/or you do not realise its significance and potential as a monetary instrument. We're talking about the Internet of the 80s. Travel back in time and think what you would do then if you knew what you know now about the Internet...

The reason I bought my first 0.5 BTC (and several more soon after) in 2015 was to own Bitcoin before the 2016 Halving, because I knew that it would rise significantly because of it. It was right there in the algorithm, right in front of me. It was talking to me. Something that's not possible in the stock market. And boy did it rise! Much more than I had anticipated.

Most of us are in this scene long enough to have lived through at least one Halving. I cannot accept that anyone who's been through such experience would sell any amount of BTC now, unless it's part of a carefully laid out trading plan to take advantage of the volatility, and even then I would be very cautious.

For me, the safest bet now is to 1) HoDL, 2) Buy if you can, 3) Wait it out.

In December of 2020 we'll be dreaming of the long-gone 4-digit times when we could buy so cheaply... Well, that time is NOW!

(*) mindrust, no disrespect to you, I know the feeling, nearly panic sold at the beginning of 2017 because of a big dip then, but Kraken saved me by failing to execute my order due to their servers being slower than a ZX Spectrum 48K running Windows Vista. Listen to what the other WOs are saying. Try to buy back now, even if it means owning less BTC than before. It's a shitty feeling, I know, but you can't begin to imagine how shitty you will feel in December 2020 if you don't get in now. No amount of TP will be able to save you then. It's a shitty deal, I know, but act wisely, take it like a man and get in now.

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Open your eyes fools!
Stack satoshis while you can.
54 days left...

#haiku

[Cryptotourist]

I've been thinking about mindrust. #nohomo

What is extraordinary (nutildah mentioned it first), is his sincerity about the incident.
Should that had not been so, we wouldn't have known - and/or whatever.

It is important to pause, and take the lesson here.
The shake down of a weak (in retrospect) over-invested bull, realizing a capital loss - but most importantly abandoning all hope and position, is not to be taken lightly.


Question: If BTC goes to $2k, will you buy 20 coins or not? I'm guessing a solid no.

I will not rub it in your face any more.
Hopefully you will do what is best for you.
Oh, and $50 per month, won't fucking cut it.

For one, thank you for sharing.

[fillippone]

The European Central Bank has launched a 'bazooka' $820 billion pandemic fund to aid markets. 'There are no limits.'

The European Central Bank (ECB) has unveiled a new €750 billion ($820 billion) response to the coronavirus in a bid to calm financial markets.
The so-called Pandemic Emergency Purchase Programme (PEPP) comes less than a week after the central bank announced policies which did little to provide comfort to traders.
It follows similar plans by the Federal Reserve and numerous major economies to stem the damage from Covid-19.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/coronavirus-lagarde-announces-ecb-pandemic-fund-to-calm-markets-2020-3-1029011851

People would be happy if the money was distributed to families.

$1.5T in Repo
$1.1T Commercial paper relief
$1T in US fiscal stimulus
$750B QE from ECB
$600B QE from the Fed
$600B bank loan guarantee (France/UK)
$500B in loans (Germany)
$300B in Japanese stimulus (proposed)
$100B in fiscal stimulus across Europe


Craziest week ever!

Dear diary:
what have I one today?

• I stayed put inside my quarantine in Covid- Land
• I progressed in my online Pyton Course
• I ate a full box of trofie al pesto (complete of potatoes and green beans)
• I posted a little on bitcointalk.org
• I used my thread 5 Resources to teach Average Joe about Bitcoin and the facts reported above to finally get a friend of mine to fund his account on Stamp and buy some Bitcoins.

It was a good day, after all.

[JayJuanGee]

Well, it took some time but finally the money from my 'debt restructuring' plan I made about a month ago came in. I actually stuck to the plan I had made a month ago and bought at whatever price BTC had at that moment. And for the very first time ever, the price didn't immediately tank after I bought! I think I broke the spell!

Did you at least get in at sub $6k?

5.783,47

O.k.  Great...   Could have been better, but could have been worse, too.

At least, you have a little bit of a cushion, and in the long run, those are much better prices than the $8k-$10k-ish territories from a couple of weeks ago.

Hopefully, in one or two years, you can pay off the whole loan.. to the extent that you want or feel that paying off all or part of the loan would be in your interest... Sometimes, if there is merely an appreciation of value in your investment (here, bitcoin), there might not necessarily be any rush to reduce your loan debt, unless you feel that you can catch some of your cashing out of bitcoin during a sufficiently valid exponential price rise. 

I would imagine that you have given some thought to some of these kinds of scenarios in order to make an outline of a tentative plan.  You have probably realized that I personally do not like to play these kinds of situations with all or nothing kinds of tactics so, I would be considering incremental ways to cash out some BTC in part at various points up the price line if I felt that it might be good to reduce that debt while taking some profits from BTC, too.... but if the loan is manageable or becomes somewhat manageable with the passage of time, then sometimes you still might find it prudent to let the debt ride and just pay it off over a longer period of time while NOT having to cash out too much of your BTC stash at a possibly less good timing.

[Cryptotourist]

Don't know about you guys, but I'm in an extreme holiday mode.

I give two shits about nothing.
Maybe only touched about the alcohol ban in the Philippines.

Waiting for the weather to warm up, so that I can stroll nude in town.

[Cryptotourist]

I honestly can't wait for Vegeta this time round.
Not for competing for LFC's corn, but for another reason.

Oh sir, yes sir.

~ CT imagining bashing contingency scenarios ~

[JayJuanGee]

Most of us are in this scene long enough to have lived through at least one Halving. I cannot accept that anyone who's been through such experience would sell any amount of BTC now, unless it's part of a carefully laid out trading plan to take advantage of the volatility, and even then I would be very cautious.

Even though you are probably somewhat correct, AlcoHoDL, with your presumption that there are a decent number of WO thread regulars who have been through at least one halvening, in recent times, I am having my doubts about whether going through one halving is going to be enough for the vast majority of regular peeps, unless they happen to be decently rich before getting into bitcoin and putting a decent quantity of value into bitcoin before the effects of the halvening has truly kicked in.   

In recent times, I am thinking that the vast majority of regular peeps are going to need to hold through a couple of halvenings, unless kind of best case scenarios develop, and we should not be assuming best case scenarios.

Even if someone has established an investment portfolio of $100k, and then decide to be somewhat aggressive with BTC with a 20% investment into BTC, that would only be $20k and might not be a sufficient amount to reach fuck you status.

Surely, I agree with what seems to be your essential message, and that is that there is a kind of algorithm that is quite likely to play out that is going to cause a likely stepping up in the BTC price, so no one who is seriously trying to grow his/her BTC investment should be fucking around with any kind of large amount of BTC selling, but instead be focusing on accumulating BTC in this price arena while it lasts...  and my point remains that even if guys do that.. they are likely going to need a few BTC halvening cycles before they are likely to be able to get into a kind of comfort zone (or maybe 1.5 cycles might end up working out decently well for some too?)....

[Patel]

I think we're about to see a bull market for the next 4 months. Based on the 3D chart.