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February 28, 2014, 07:15:22 PM
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Do you have any proof of sending 50k to mtgox? This is not speculation is throwing money off the window. You might win, but still it's stupid to do.


Ninja with balls of STEEL I salute you !!!

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February 28, 2014, 07:21:30 PM
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Fortress Financial Group, a publicly-traded asset manager with a market value of $4.26 billion, reported its 2013 results yesterday—and its biggest investment loss was bitcoin.



in my opinion it is a good thing that big money is getting in. so thumbs up for fortress. but..

but...

to effectivly create your biggest loss of all assets in bitcoin during 2013 is an outstanding example of bad timing.


Wow, to screw up like that they would have bought in after November 15 (say at the peak November 30)  and sold at the bottom December 15)  and dropped around $7 bar into the game and be totally out before Q4 ends.  

Assume they put in the minimum nesesary for the loss they account for about 20% of all volume invested in Bitcoin.

Not the behavior of a competent investment firm.
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February 28, 2014, 07:23:05 PM
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Mother of Shit....

I'm glad I've speculated on dogecoin.... this might blow the price through the roof.

Or it could mark the beginning of the end--the point when the meme was no longer funny. 

Confirmed...... seems to be tanking.... must be like grandma on facebook.
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February 28, 2014, 07:24:14 PM
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Is stamp going to become a bot fest now gox is off?
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February 28, 2014, 07:26:34 PM
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Totally off topic, but I had to share this image from the official US Department of Health and Human Services Facebook page as I couldn't believe my eyes.  

https://www.facebook.com/HHS/photos/a.577318915631772.1073741828.573990992631231/711923322171330/?type=1



Mother of Shit....

I'm glad I've speculated on dogecoin.... this might blow the price through the roof.

what does this have to do with dogecoin?

LMFAO.

I've been a Dogecoin fan, just cause it's awesome. But this... hahaha. If prices rocket I'm sodl my 2 million doges within a heartbeat

The government is making fun of us. Some bureaucrat is laughing his ass off.
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February 28, 2014, 07:29:42 PM
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Fortress Financial Group, a publicly-traded asset manager with a market value of $4.26 billion, reported its 2013 results yesterday—and its biggest investment loss was bitcoin.



in my opinion it is a good thing that big money is getting in. so thumbs up for fortress. but..

but...

to effectivly create your biggest loss of all assets in bitcoin during 2013 is an outstanding example of bad timing.


Wow, to screw up like that they would have bought in after November 15 (say at the peak November 30)  and sold at the bottom December 15)  and dropped around $7 bar into the game and be totally out before Q4 ends.  

Assume they put in the minimum nesesary for the loss they account for about 20% of all volume invested in Bitcoin.

Not the behavior of a competent investment firm.

Looks like they bought in and have hodl since..... losses are listed as "unrealised" so they haven't sold the BTC yet
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February 28, 2014, 07:32:37 PM
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We are currently bearish!?
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February 28, 2014, 07:34:56 PM
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Fortress Financial Group, a publicly-traded asset manager with a market value of $4.26 billion, reported its 2013 results yesterday—and its biggest investment loss was bitcoin.



in my opinion it is a good thing that big money is getting in. so thumbs up for fortress. but..

but...

to effectivly create your biggest loss of all assets in bitcoin during 2013 is an outstanding example of bad timing.



Wow, to screw up like that they would have bought in after November 15 (say at the peak November 30)  and sold at the bottom December 15)  and dropped around $7 bar into the game and be totally out before Q4 ends.  

Assume they put in the minimum nesesary for the loss they account for about 20% of all volume invested in Bitcoin.

Not the behavior of a competent investment firm.

Looks like they bought in and have hodl since..... losses are listed as "unrealised" so they haven't sold the BTC yet


OMG they still want to sell 20 % of all traded bitcoin....?  To the the Vietnamese ?
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February 28, 2014, 07:36:31 PM
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Totally off topic, but I had to share this image from the official US Department of Health and Human Services Facebook page as I couldn't believe my eyes.  

https://www.facebook.com/HHS/photos/a.577318915631772.1073741828.573990992631231/711923322171330/?type=1



Mother of Shit....

I'm glad I've speculated on dogecoin.... this might blow the price through the roof.

what does this have to do with dogecoin?

LMFAO.

I've been a Dogecoin fan, just cause it's awesome. But this... hahaha. If prices rocket I'm sodl my 2 million doges within a heartbeat

The government is making fun of us. Some bureaucrat is laughing his ass off.

Off-topic but there's a theme here. Genuine job advertisement at a power company: http://www.trademe.co.nz/699021572
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February 28, 2014, 07:37:45 PM
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Fortress Financial Group, a publicly-traded asset manager with a market value of $4.26 billion, reported its 2013 results yesterday—and its biggest investment loss was bitcoin.



in my opinion it is a good thing that big money is getting in. so thumbs up for fortress. but..

but...

to effectivly create your biggest loss of all assets in bitcoin during 2013 is an outstanding example of bad timing.


Wow, to screw up like that they would have bought in after November 15 (say at the peak November 30)  and sold at the bottom December 15)  and dropped around $7 bar into the game and be totally out before Q4 ends.  

Assume they put in the minimum nesesary for the loss they account for about 20% of all volume invested in Bitcoin.

Not the behavior of a competent investment firm.

The report specifies unrealized losses
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February 28, 2014, 07:40:08 PM
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Fortress Financial Group, a publicly-traded asset manager with a market value of $4.26 billion, reported its 2013 results yesterday—and its biggest investment loss was bitcoin.



in my opinion it is a good thing that big money is getting in. so thumbs up for fortress. but..

but...

to effectivly create your biggest loss of all assets in bitcoin during 2013 is an outstanding example of bad timing.


Wow, to screw up like that they would have bought in after November 15 (say at the peak November 30)  and sold at the bottom December 15)  and dropped around $7 bar into the game and be totally out before Q4 ends.  

Assume they put in the minimum nesesary for the loss they account for about 20% of all volume invested in Bitcoin.

Not the behavior of a competent investment firm.

The report specifies unrealized losses

but with bitcoin todays unrealized losses are the monumental gains of tomorrow...  Cheesy
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February 28, 2014, 07:40:27 PM
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I have told about the needed features countless times already, but I'll repeat myself again, what I see that needs fixing but isn't adressed with bitcoin: a) Speed of increasing wealth concentration b) Deflationary system that prohibits price stability c) Inefficiency of mining where new resources are spent while the network doesn't gain in speed or security.

I recommend many of the Alt coins that address your concerns specifically, if they truly are better, you'll make a killing.  
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February 28, 2014, 07:44:23 PM
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Fortress Financial Group, a publicly-traded asset manager with a market value of $4.26 billion, reported its 2013 results yesterday—and its biggest investment loss was bitcoin.



in my opinion it is a good thing that big money is getting in. so thumbs up for fortress. but..

but...

to effectivly create your biggest loss of all assets in bitcoin during 2013 is an outstanding example of bad timing.


Wow, to screw up like that they would have bought in after November 15 (say at the peak November 30)  and sold at the bottom December 15)  and dropped around $7 bar into the game and be totally out before Q4 ends.  

Assume they put in the minimum nesesary for the loss they account for about 20% of all volume invested in Bitcoin.

Not the behavior of a competent investment firm.

Looks like they bought in and have hodl since..... losses are listed as "unrealised" so they haven't sold the BTC yet

so they put at least $7,000,000 in at the top. wow, not sure ill invests with these guys.
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February 28, 2014, 07:45:46 PM
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I have told about the needed features countless times already, but I'll repeat myself again, what I see that needs fixing but isn't adressed with bitcoin: a) Speed of increasing wealth concentration b) Deflationary system that prohibits price stability c) Inefficiency of mining where new resources are spent while the network doesn't gain in speed or security.

I recommend many of the Alt coins that address your concerns specifically, if they truly are better, you'll make a killing.  

which altcoin isnt scrypt?
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February 28, 2014, 07:46:14 PM
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Do you have any proof of sending 50k to mtgox? This is not speculation is throwing money off the window. You might win, but still it's stupid to do.


Ninja with balls of STEEL I salute you !!!

awtch


There is NOT even a date on that page... but I suppose that there will be a correlation with other records... and then within GOX there are a lot of records of various transactions and trandes that may have taken place between the date of the deposit and the date of the closing of the exchange.  HOWEVER, I am confident that ONLY a small portion of GOX customers went through the effort to save those various pages of electronic data (even though there were several weeks in which that saving of pages could have been done (between the time of the discontinuance of withdrawals until the time of the shutting off  of the website)..  

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February 28, 2014, 07:46:38 PM
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I have told about the needed features countless times already, but I'll repeat myself again, what I see that needs fixing but isn't adressed with bitcoin: a) Speed of increasing wealth concentration b) Deflationary system that prohibits price stability c) Inefficiency of mining where new resources are spent while the network doesn't gain in speed or security.

I recommend many of the Alt coins that address your concerns specifically, if they truly are better, you'll make a killing.  

which altcoin isnt scrypt?
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Fortress Financial Group, a publicly-traded asset manager with a market value of $4.26 billion, reported its 2013 results yesterday—and its biggest investment loss was bitcoin.



in my opinion it is a good thing that big money is getting in. so thumbs up for fortress. but..

but...

to effectivly create your biggest loss of all assets in bitcoin during 2013 is an outstanding example of bad timing.



Wow, to screw up like that they would have bought in after November 15 (say at the peak November 30)  and sold at the bottom December 15)  and dropped around $7 bar into the game and be totally out before Q4 ends.  

Assume they put in the minimum nesesary for the loss they account for about 20% of all volume invested in Bitcoin.

Not the behavior of a competent investment firm.

Looks like they bought in and have hodl since..... losses are listed as "unrealised" so they haven't sold the BTC yet


OMG they still want to sell 20 % of all traded bitcoin....?  To the the Vietnamese ?

that's about 20% of the bitcoins traded on any given day during the last bubble.
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February 28, 2014, 07:47:33 PM
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Fortress Financial Group, a publicly-traded asset manager with a market value of $4.26 billion, reported its 2013 results yesterday—and its biggest investment loss was bitcoin.



in my opinion it is a good thing that big money is getting in. so thumbs up for fortress. but..

but...

to effectivly create your biggest loss of all assets in bitcoin during 2013 is an outstanding example of bad timing.


Wow, to screw up like that they would have bought in after November 15 (say at the peak November 30)  and sold at the bottom December 15)  and dropped around $7 bar into the game and be totally out before Q4 ends.  

Assume they put in the minimum nesesary for the loss they account for about 20% of all volume invested in Bitcoin.

Not the behavior of a competent investment firm.

Looks like they bought in and have hodl since..... losses are listed as "unrealised" so they haven't sold the BTC yet

so they put at least $7,000,000 in at the top. wow, not sure ill invests with these guys.

If you read it the article clearly says $20,000,000

See also here
http://www.coindesk.com/fortress-investment-group-reports-purchase-20m-bitcoin/
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February 28, 2014, 07:48:40 PM
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Do you have any proof of sending 50k to mtgox? This is not speculation is throwing money off the window. You might win, but still it's stupid to do.


Ninja with balls of STEEL I salute you !!!

awtch


There is NOT even a date on that page... but I suppose that there will be a correlation with other records... and then within GOX there are a lot of records of various transactions and trandes that may have taken place between the date of the deposit and the date of the closing of the exchange.  HOWEVER, I am confident that ONLY a small portion of GOX customers went through the effort to save those various pages of electronic data (even though there were several weeks in which that saving of pages could have been done (between the time of the discontinuance of withdrawals until the time of the shutting off  of the website)..  



Gox went down with his 1200 BTC. He was not seen here since he said how much he lost there. Serious shit.

Some guy reported 4200 BTC Gox loss. Shit.
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February 28, 2014, 07:50:05 PM
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I have told about the needed features countless times already, but I'll repeat myself again, what I see that needs fixing but isn't adressed with bitcoin: a) Speed of increasing wealth concentration b) Deflationary system that prohibits price stability c) Inefficiency of mining where new resources are spent while the network doesn't gain in speed or security.

I recommend many of the Alt coins that address your concerns specifically, if they truly are better, you'll make a killing.  

which altcoin isnt scrypt?

you have lots of homework to do, it isn't the application of script but how it is integrated into the POW or POS system,  NXT is the first one that comes to mind.
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