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[OutOfMemory]

Also, it's not being "extreme left" to prevent people from organizing a coup and lynchings, it's called civilization.

With that type of logic book burning can be justified indeed.
I see it as a slippery slope like I said. Others see it as a good thing for the greater good.

As pointed out that greater good is slowly controlled only by billionaires.

Book burning by whom ? We're talking about private companies here. And usually on bitcoin forums people don't have problems with billionaires, but I guess there are exceptions.

And you think it's ok for a few private companies to control what we can and can not say?

When People got sick of twitter and started to migrate to Parler, Twitters owner called Amazons owner and asked him to shut down Parlers servers to kill the competition. A blatant abuse of power, and probably against US antitrust and other laws.

Consider that AWS has already a history of such "measures". At least they seem to be "fair" in terms of unbiased (left/right) but maybe just picky about following their rules (terms of service). Sometimes more, sometimes less. However, violence needs to be addressed at its sources, and i see this principle applied here. There are many other channels, and also a history (everyone remember the "hotline" client/server network?).

In addition, you only have to go back 10 years before the Brexit vote and find out that in fact the Liberal Democrats wanted an in out referendum as well. Nothing to do with Robert Mercer or Nigel Farage.

Populism made almost all the difference.
UK is about to wake up with quite a hangover after the brexit party.

That's not true, as a free independent nation they can now make trade deals with the rest of the world instead of just the EU.

They will start building a free trade area with just about everyone as soon as they can.
And that area will soon be bigger then the EU, mark my words.
Remember EFTA, that Austria used to be part of before joining the EEC? That was started by the British.

I value your opinion, especially because you have far better historic knowledge than me.
This will become quite interesting. I think the UK may be in a weak position to set up trade agreements BUT the EU is already slowly dismounting itself from the inside.
So relative to the EU, the UK might end up stronger mid/long term, quite likely imo.

[BobLawblaw]

https://twitter.com/laevitas1/status/1348863842558881792


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https://twitter.com/whale_alert/status/1348905558699618305

[mladen00]

I don't give a shit if 90% of the protestors were just marching. The 10% of the ones that stormed the capital are all felons and should be charged as such and all the congressmen/woman and Trumps and his sycophants should be charged with sedition.

You snowflakes crying about social media bans. I will drink all your pansy ass tears. You don't get to storm the capital and try to kill people in this country. These people deserve every ban they get.

Cry me a river with your treason.

But in Syria, Libya, Irak ......  you can do that and much worse???

[Arriemoller]

What gun is this?

[Arriemoller]

Also, it's not being "extreme left" to prevent people from organizing a coup and lynchings, it's called civilization.

With that type of logic book burning can be justified indeed.
I see it as a slippery slope like I said. Others see it as a good thing for the greater good.

As pointed out that greater good is slowly controlled only by billionaires.

Book burning by whom ? We're talking about private companies here. And usually on bitcoin forums people don't have problems with billionaires, but I guess there are exceptions.

And you think it's ok for a few private companies to control what we can and can not say?

When People got sick of twitter and started to migrate to Parler, Twitters owner called Amazons owner and asked him to shut down Parlers servers to kill the competition. A blatant abuse of power, and probably against US antitrust and other laws.

Consider that AWS has already a history of such "measures". At least they seem to be "fair" in terms of unbiased (left/right) but maybe just picky about following their rules (terms of service). Sometimes more, sometimes less. However, violence needs to be addressed at its sources, and i see this principle applied here. There are many other channels, and also a history (everyone remember the "hotline" client/server network?).

In addition, you only have to go back 10 years before the Brexit vote and find out that in fact the Liberal Democrats wanted an in out referendum as well. Nothing to do with Robert Mercer or Nigel Farage.

Populism made almost all the difference.
UK is about to wake up with quite a hangover after the brexit party.

That's not true, as a free independent nation they can now make trade deals with the rest of the world instead of just the EU.

They will start building a free trade area with just about everyone as soon as they can.
And that area will soon be bigger then the EU, mark my words.
Remember EFTA, that Austria used to be part of before joining the EEC? That was started by the British.

I value your opinion, especially because you have far better historic knowledge than me.
This will become quite interesting. I think the UK may be in a weak position to set up trade agreements BUT the EU is already slowly dismounting itself from the inside.
So relative to the EU, the UK might end up stronger mid/long term, quite likely imo.

Tank you, I agree that the EU is slowly dismounting itself from the inside, it's going to be very interesting to see what's going to happen the coming 20 years, if I live that long.

[OutOfMemory]

I don't give a shit if 90% of the protestors were just marching. The 10% of the ones that stormed the capital are all felons and should be charged as such and all the congressmen/woman and Trumps and his sycophants should be charged with sedition.

You snowflakes crying about social media bans. I will drink all your pansy ass tears. You don't get to storm the capital and try to kill people in this country. These people deserve every ban they get.

Cry me a river with your treason.

But in Syria, Libya, Irak ......  you can do that and much worse???

Yuck!
I didn't even have breakfast yet, and thanks to you i probably won't have 

[explorer]

What gun is this?

Springfield XDS.  .45?

[Arriemoller]

What gun is this?

Springfield XDS.  .45?

Thank you.

[AlcoHoDL]

What gun is this?

I think it's the XD-M .45 ACP, made by Springfield Armory.

Springfield Armory XD-M® 4.5″ .45 ACP Handgun

[Phil_S]

However, violence needs to be addressed at its sources

Violence needs to be addressed at 'violence' level, not on people 'having wrong opinions' level.

[Syke]

I can't believe anyone that was storming the capital, went there with the intention of killing anyone.

Maybe not murder, but they were clearly criminal in nature.

[Arriemoller]

What gun is this?

I think it's the XD-M .45 ACP, made by Springfield Armory.

Springfield Armory XD-M® 4.5″ .45 ACP Handgun

Thank you.

[serveria.com]

EDIT: Oh... that's the good stuff right there... Oh yeah... I've missed Rusty.
EDIT2: Oh... Jesus Christ...

 

[OutOfMemory]

However, violence needs to be addressed at its sources

Violence needs to be addressed at 'violence' level, not on people 'having wrong opinions' level.

Yes, when you failed in preventing violence at educational and mindset levels, you have to address it at the "violence level".
In complex system theory, the latter would be a great example for a fail, however.

[Karartma1]

Let me bring you on topic again as you are all starting to degenerate 

BTW, good morning.

[AlcoHoDL]

However, violence needs to be addressed at its sources

Violence needs to be addressed at 'violence' level, not on people 'having wrong opinions' level.

Yes, when you failed in preventing violence at educational and mindset levels, you have to address it at the "violence level".
In complex system theory, the latter would be a great example for a fail, however.

Yeah... For me it's not about the left or right. It's about the violence that's deeply rooted in those people. Have they been brainwashed when they were little? Were they repressed in some way? Abused as children? Failed to fit in to society? What could be the source of such misanthropy, hatred, fanaticism and violence?

I've met such people. Based on those I've personally met and had discussions with, they are usually conservatives, they are pro-guns, pro-violence, they are homophobic and pro-white, some of them are holocaust deniers and support Hitler's policies, they support antisemitism, they easily believe in conspiracy theories (the Alex Jones type), and, wait for it, they are almost exclusively devoted Christians! How perverse is that? How can they reconcile and combine the teachings of Christianity with misanthropic and violent attitudes and behaviour?

Is society creating new waves of repressed psychopaths? What is the cause of this? What can be done about it?

[Wekkel]

I can't believe anyone that was storming the capital, went there with the intention of killing anyone.

Maybe not murder, but they were clearly criminal in nature.

Not less criminal than the cohorts looking for shops of other civilians to burn.

It all looked staged.

Both parties try to run with it.

Both will fail in the long run.

I wish people would take the helicopter few. Otherwise, they may stay the f** out of this thread.

[marcus_of_augustus]

"First they came for the Trumpists and I said nothing .... "

... if history is any guide this has a long way to run, authoritarian statists never give up power without bloodshed. The level of hate and vitriol being whipped up on both sides looks like it's being manufactured  ... good excuse for bigger crackdowns and more power for the State.

[Digithusiast]

In vitamine D we trust

[Cryptotourist]

Yeah... For me it's not about the left or right.

I second that.

Is society creating new waves of repressed psychopaths?

Yes, but there is nothing new about it.

What is the cause of this?

Religion, poor education, lack of critical thinking, state of the art brainwashing propaganda, AI's.

What can be done about it?

Alert others if possible?