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[Arriemoller]

What gun is this?

Springfield XDS.  .45?

Thank you.

[AlcoHoDL]

What gun is this?

I think it's the XD-M .45 ACP, made by Springfield Armory.

Springfield Armory XD-M® 4.5″ .45 ACP Handgun

[Phil_S]

However, violence needs to be addressed at its sources

Violence needs to be addressed at 'violence' level, not on people 'having wrong opinions' level.

[Syke]

I can't believe anyone that was storming the capital, went there with the intention of killing anyone.

Maybe not murder, but they were clearly criminal in nature.

[Arriemoller]

What gun is this?

I think it's the XD-M .45 ACP, made by Springfield Armory.

Springfield Armory XD-M® 4.5″ .45 ACP Handgun

Thank you.

[serveria.com]

EDIT: Oh... that's the good stuff right there... Oh yeah... I've missed Rusty.
EDIT2: Oh... Jesus Christ...

 

[OutOfMemory]

However, violence needs to be addressed at its sources

Violence needs to be addressed at 'violence' level, not on people 'having wrong opinions' level.

Yes, when you failed in preventing violence at educational and mindset levels, you have to address it at the "violence level".
In complex system theory, the latter would be a great example for a fail, however.

[Karartma1]

Let me bring you on topic again as you are all starting to degenerate 

BTW, good morning.

[AlcoHoDL]

However, violence needs to be addressed at its sources

Violence needs to be addressed at 'violence' level, not on people 'having wrong opinions' level.

Yes, when you failed in preventing violence at educational and mindset levels, you have to address it at the "violence level".
In complex system theory, the latter would be a great example for a fail, however.

Yeah... For me it's not about the left or right. It's about the violence that's deeply rooted in those people. Have they been brainwashed when they were little? Were they repressed in some way? Abused as children? Failed to fit in to society? What could be the source of such misanthropy, hatred, fanaticism and violence?

I've met such people. Based on those I've personally met and had discussions with, they are usually conservatives, they are pro-guns, pro-violence, they are homophobic and pro-white, some of them are holocaust deniers and support Hitler's policies, they support antisemitism, they easily believe in conspiracy theories (the Alex Jones type), and, wait for it, they are almost exclusively devoted Christians! How perverse is that? How can they reconcile and combine the teachings of Christianity with misanthropic and violent attitudes and behaviour?

Is society creating new waves of repressed psychopaths? What is the cause of this? What can be done about it?

[Wekkel]

I can't believe anyone that was storming the capital, went there with the intention of killing anyone.

Maybe not murder, but they were clearly criminal in nature.

Not less criminal than the cohorts looking for shops of other civilians to burn.

It all looked staged.

Both parties try to run with it.

Both will fail in the long run.

I wish people would take the helicopter few. Otherwise, they may stay the f** out of this thread.

[marcus_of_augustus]

"First they came for the Trumpists and I said nothing .... "

... if history is any guide this has a long way to run, authoritarian statists never give up power without bloodshed. The level of hate and vitriol being whipped up on both sides looks like it's being manufactured  ... good excuse for bigger crackdowns and more power for the State.

[Digithusiast]

In vitamine D we trust

[Cryptotourist]

Yeah... For me it's not about the left or right.

I second that.

Is society creating new waves of repressed psychopaths?

Yes, but there is nothing new about it.

What is the cause of this?

Religion, poor education, lack of critical thinking, state of the art brainwashing propaganda, AI's.

What can be done about it?

Alert others if possible?

[Tash]

I can't believe anyone that was storming the capital, went there with the intention of killing anyone.

Maybe not murder, but they were clearly criminal in nature.

Definitive who else would walk in the roped of path
 

[marcus_of_augustus]

I can't believe anyone that was storming the capital, went there with the intention of killing anyone.

Maybe not murder, but they were clearly criminal in nature.

Definitive who else would walk in the roped of path
 

... that's one mean murderous mob you are talking about.

[OutOfMemory]

In vitamine D we trust

RONG!
In vitamin BTC we trust!

... they easily believe in conspiracy theories (the Alex Jones type), and, wait for it, they are almost exclusively devoted Christians! How perverse is that? How can they reconcile and combine the teachings of Christianity with misanthropic and violent attitudes and behaviour?

Well, christianity is very unlike to what the church was actually historically teaching. (judged by their past actions like inquisition etc.)
It's a basic form of separation the unworthy and the blessed. This is where all the trouble begins: comparison, judgement, condemnation (in this order).

Is society creating new waves of repressed psychopaths? What is the cause of this? What can be done about it?

Educating and getting aware of the human ego. The entity in our minds that is responsible for judging and comparison of what's "good" and "bad".
The "bad" guys always think they're doing things for "good". Almost nobody is aware of that aspect of human thinking.
Schizophrenia or some kinds of drugs make us able to separate from and observe it.

[Phil_S]

However, violence needs to be addressed at its sources

Violence needs to be addressed at 'violence' level, not on people 'having wrong opinions' level.

Yes, when you failed in preventing violence at educational and mindset levels, you have to address it at the "violence level".
In complex system theory, the latter would be a great example for a fail, however.

So... full-scale cultural revolution and re-education camps?

If our goal is to 'prevent violence' at all costs, I guess we must ban boxing, UFC, 'toxic masculinity', video games and movies?

[SATWAT]

However, violence needs to be addressed at its sources

Violence needs to be addressed at 'violence' level, not on people 'having wrong opinions' level.

Yes, when you failed in preventing violence at educational and mindset levels, you have to address it at the "violence level".
In complex system theory, the latter would be a great example for a fail, however.

So... full-scale cultural revolution and re-education camps?

If our goal is to 'prevent violence' at all costs, I guess we must ban boxing, UFC, 'toxic masculinity', video games and movies?

Your point is valid but in view of business nothing is going to be banned just because of this violence because they need these all things for more money and profit.

[HairyMaclairy]

And they did kill two cops. Oops, guess that was an accident.

We don't know the circumstances in those unfortunate and senseless deaths. I can't believe they were killed by Honest-To-God America-Loving Trump supporters. That is indeed a cognitive disconnect.

I see it more reasonable to suspect Antifa or left wing agitators as being responsible for those deaths.

EDIT: Eg: https://twitter.com/ReaICosy/status/1348898226687143937

That first dude totally looks like an agitator. That's some real home-grown patriotic America-loving behavior, I'll tell you hwat.

EDIT2: Maybe I just am that out of touch with things. Who knows.

This video shows the moment that a police officer is separated from the other officers.  It is believed that this is the video of Officer Brian Sicknick being beaten to death by the crowd but that has not been independently confirmed.  The video is not for the faint of heart.  It is nasty.  I note in particular the rioter with the long dark hair beating the officer with his American flag pole, while another rioter takes the policeman's helmet and puts it on his own head.  

Link to video here:  https://www.tmz.com/videos/2021-01-10-011021-capitol-chaos-new-angle-4909030/

In any event the FBI is seeking to charge the people who killed the officer (who was in full uniform) with felony murder.  It is only a matter of time before they are caught.

With all due respect to the conservatives on the thread, this is a Trump crowd and there is no one going to the aid of the officer.  There are however a lot of people beating on the officer.  I do not accept that the officer's death was somehow accidental or that it was not caused by the Trump crowd.  Alot of people are involved in killing this officer and no one appears to be trying to help him.

[Phil_S]

I guess you would support passing Patriot Act 2.0 as the proper response.

They'll say we need it, in order to prevent future riots.