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August 13, 2021, 05:55:36 PM

20ft is significant enough but I'm sure they're probably basing it off what they "know" the boundary is supposed to be. Or do they have any evidence to back their claim? Annoying for sure.

They have an old title, legal description, and survey done in the 1940's, and asked me to move a marker on a 2016 survey vs their 1940s legal description.

They should have challenged it in 2016 before I bought the property.

Ain't gonna happen.

Taking them to court over it if I have to.

Either next Thurs/Friday or week after we'll be out there to meet with the Sheriff Dept. who will be keeping the peace during the fence buildout.

I bet that 1940s person didn't have a laser theodolite. Please keep us informed. Always a slight possibility the 2016 is in error I suppose but I wouldn't put money on it.
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August 13, 2021, 05:57:49 PM

This guy more or less brought me into crypto and i enjoyed his predictions and mathematical forecasts very much! I think his game was not intended as an exit scam, i think -as i was watching the development of his castle game- he was fucked by hackers as other exchanges had been fucked also and he was fucked by poloniex also.
I am not sure if he had a car accident or if he was accidented, but yes he had some troubles with his wife and his children. RIP, i will still enjoy reading his posts and predictions saved here  Roll Eyes Wink

He claimed to have a bunch of bitcoin stolen at a conference IIRC. Poor guy clearly had mental issues and it's a shame he wasn't able/willing to get help.
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When I run into stuff like this I can only think that an immutable decentralised ledger of some form that publicly holds the truth of things would be so much better. All land should be on some blockchain breaking down the exact coordinates of the land. Actually, I know someone who was working on this years ago.

There's no reason people can't trade their well defined property easily.

"Code as law" falls over pretty quickly in such cases as there is often a need for human intervention. This is a big problem I have with the grandiose claims of Eth. It definitely has a niche but will never be as widely applicable as they hope.
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August 13, 2021, 06:02:39 PM

The "bot" always presumes too much and then falls into the trap of its own presumptions. But the volume, the volume...

You conveniently forgot to say no homo, you fuck.

I knew that you really liked me, on the inside.   Wink

1. Sometimes an example is just an example and nothing else. I am not here to discuss my personal stash, albeit others sometimes do (hat-tip).

Of course, if you are going to propose differing models then you should be attempting to frame decent aspects of your differing models into reality rather than just pie in the sky bullshit.

For example, if we might be attempting to hone in on both getting to fuck you status or even figuring out what might be minimum entry level into fuck you status, I hardly find your descriptions of what it is like to be 10x, 100x or even 1,000x higher than the entry-level to be very concrete or relatable, even if there are some bguys/gals here who have likely reached those various higher levels and have also developed their own various peculiarities in terms of needing and wanting to have way more than entry level fuck you status.

2. Talking with worry about potential market decline does not mean selling. It could be just that-worry about a storm while hodling.

Yes.. we know that bitcoin tends to be quite volatile, so when you are whining about the supposed inevitability of bitcoin going down further that seems a bit much, and maybe it is worse when the BTC price has already come down quite a bit and the MOAR DOWNity is not as inevitable as you seem to be wanting to make it out to be... while you are proclaiming that you are right all the time.. which likely does talk some people into either selling coins or failing to buy as many coins as they would have otherwise... but sure, I don't have a lot of sympathy for peeps who go along with guys on the interwebs even if they are persuasive as you sometimes can be with your frequent fear-mongering whining baloney.

3. Taking profit, then paying extra taxes has not been my style, that's for sure.

Good for you.

Stocking up and really preparing (or maybe even over-preparing) for UPpity seems to NOT have been your style, either.

You must really like my earlier example of the whining curmudgeon who ONLY bought 20 BTC and the ongoing BTC investor who ended up getting 42BTC by merely DCAing for the 6 years that the curmudgeon whiner sat on his hands.  Remind you of anyone?

by the way, the whining cumudgeon who ONLY has 20BTC might feel quite reserved to sell any BTC, but they active BTC investor has 22 more BTC, and merely one of those 22BTC covers all of his costs of investing into BTC, so selling 1 or 2 BTC may well not cause such active investor to stop from enjoying the extra wealth that he has accumulated by actively investing, even if he may well have to pay taxes on almost everything that he cashes out because his tax basis is only around $867 when the price is $46,500-ish - or whatever price that s/he decides to shave off a wee bit of profits.. so having an extra 22 BTC ($1 million in value at current spot price) is not necessarily going to cause a whole hell of a lot of lost sleep if taxes might end up being in a 15% to 20% arena in cashing out $50k or $100k (in the event that s/he does decide to do it).. so if s/he ends up cashing out $100k, there is still $900k in extra profits (over the amount of profits of the curmudgeon) even if s/he was ONLY able to take away $80k and had to pay nearly $20k in taxes... .so maybe the curmudgeon has forced his lil selfie into being a curmudgeon because s/he failed/refused to invest more (or over invest) in order that the active BTC investor does not need to worry about taxes or whatever... s/he is still way better off, especially as compared with the whiner / curmudgeon.


4. Apart from smallish irrelevant stuff, I almost NEVER sell at the loss, unless it is beneficial on a small scale extra (cap gains reduction) and the project or stock is dead in my eyes.

I doubt that we really need to get into the selling at a loss issues.

There seems to be more questions about how much and how to invest and then whether it takes $2million or $10million or some higher amount to reach entry level fuck you status.. so there should be some kinds of reasonable presumptions that it could take several years - at least a whole cycle or two to reach those fuck you levels, unless you are getting into bitcoin in shorter time horizons (shorter than 4 years) and I doubt that even you are suggesting that kind of an approach to BTC investing... you seem to be more lacking in ongoing investing in fantasizing about some early lump sum bringing you to fuck you status after more cycles (or some pie in the sky pumpening hope of 1,000x price appreciation)..so seem that getting into loss issues is not even anything in the ballpark of our previous discussions in regards to getting to fuck you status and then managing fuck you status, once there (in order NOT to fall out of such status, hopefully).

I am a btc hodler, not a subscriber to a theory of selling when it is going up and buying when it is going down. I consider that theory wrong.

Good for you.  We (royal of course) already figured out that you are a kind of guy who way the fuck under invested, so you have put ur own lil selfie into your own false dilemma that does not affect those of us who had been more assertive (or aggressive) in our approach to BTC.

Relative assertiveness (aggressiveness) has paid off stupendously for many of us even if past performance does not guarantee future performance, BTC does seem to continue to be a kind of investment that will continue to reward those who are a bit more assertive and aggressive in regards to establishing their BTC holdings - and I am not even suggesting to use leverage or even to cause cashflow issues in terms of preferable practices of maintaining a relatively strong and continuous BTC DCAing.. and sure entry level for that might be $25 to $100 per week, but even more aggressive strategies might increase the amounts and not necessarily put BIG dents on the personal budget (ongoing cashflow concerns).

I would rather borrow cash when btc is closer to a steady state level than paying almost half of the gains in taxes.

Good for Uie-poo-ie in your hypothetical contemplation of the matter.  I think that you get so focused on how to manage your supposed high level of wealth and seem to downplay the getting there part.  So surely getting there is almost all of the battle that a vast majority of normie folks face, and once the normie folks get to fuck you status or even multiples above fuck you status then they can do whatever the fuck they want to maintain such status.  Sure there are potential issues about prematurely pulling the fuck you lever and not having enough actual value to account for all the expenses, including potential taxes, and to the extent that you are focusing ur lil selfie on my problems in having to pay taxes, you seem to be continue to want to get caught up in some kind of concern that likely does not even seem to be a concern... haven't I mentioned a lot of times, that i have enough to live fairly well and in my current lifestyle without even cashing out any BTC, so part of my ongoing dilemma has been to figure out more ways to spend more money...so I really don't mind having that thing that you perceive as a problem that I do not perceive as a problem including concerns that I am going to run out of money or have to get booted out of fuck you status.. so that is not any kind of problem for this kitty cat...even if you may well be preoccupied by a selling on the way up strategy.

50% tax (in US) is coming, bros. They have no money and therefore have to apply the squeeze.

Sure... could be... right now federal tax rates are about 15% for long term capital gains in the US of A... and then depending on which state a person is in, there may well be additional capital gains taxes for the same transactions.
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August 13, 2021, 06:09:02 PM

Make sure you document all conversions and interactions…. Date/Time who you spoke with etc…
You don’t want to look like the aggressor in court… I don’t think the court would see it as unreasonable for them to want a second independent opinion…
Remember, going legal, only two people ever win, your lawyer and their lawyer…

Construction lead has them on recording 3 times saying we are in the right, and is willing to have his entire team of 4 other contractors on this job, testify to the problems and good-faith efforts we've made.

They can't expect me to hold up construction while I wait for them, when we cleared this with everyone prior to construction.

Believe me, I didn't want to force my hand, but the fellow on the other line decided to raise his voice at me, and recognized I had to go legal, while I was making them a once-in-a-lifetime offer to fix the fence, at my expense, when confronted with a valid, competing survey.

All documented in email.

It's out of my hands right now.
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August 13, 2021, 06:17:42 PM

RIP some million dollars.
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August 13, 2021, 06:41:40 PM

I only use it for my card, and I usually transfer 0.01 btc at a time and refill when almost empty.
I don't think it will crash though.

The Binance debit card looks good. They offer cashbacks at variable rates that depend on how much BNB you have there.
Something I haven't quite understood: do only the BNB in the card account count, or do the sums in the BNB vault (getting interest) count too? It's very hard to get any kind of reply by the people at Binance. Their lame instructional videos are usually all the answers you'll get.
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August 13, 2021, 07:12:35 PM

the noon wall report


local conditions appear to be cooling as the weekend approaches...calm before the storm?

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A total horseshit about the 15% long term cap gains in US.
The upper limit (currently) is 23.8% for Federal alone. Add more if your state taxes it as well, like Cali & NY. My state does not, which is a plus.
That 23.8% federal is about to move to 43.4%, I don't doubt it.

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re:weekend

the 1h and 4h are fairly ambiguous

the 2h and 3h add some more possible insight

see where these option end at today I suppose

looks pretty flat to me but could flare up at any moment

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BTC ANY MOMENT
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A total horseshit about 15% long term cap gains in US.
The upper limit (currently) is 23.8% for Federal alone. Add more if your state taxes it as well, like Cali & NY. My state does not, which is a plus.
That 23.8% federal is about to move to 43.4%, I don't doubt it.

calculator:
https://smartasset.com/investing/capital-gains-tax-calculator

Is it funny, or ironic, that a scary tax matter is the ONLY thing that you are responding to, and you just conveniently ignore the points about clarifying the difference between the whiney curmudgeon strategy as compared with the ongoing active investor strategy who ended up with more than 2x as many bitcoin as the curmudgeon (42 BTC for the ongoing active investor versus 20 BTC for the whiney curmudgeon).  

You don't consider that having twice as many BTC makes any kind of meaningful difference, and instead you want to focus on taxes because you had handicapped ur own lil selfie through too much scaredy-cattedness in the way that you failed/refused to reasonably invest in BTC in the long term.

You were a scaredy cat in 2014/2015 who failed refused to take a reasonably aggressive BTC strategy by praying for a mere hail Mary effect - and you continue to fail/refuse to take a reasonably aggressive BTC strategy through the subsequent 6 years and just wait and hope that BTC saves your stingy little ass when you could have engaged in a wee bit more aggressive bitcoin investment strategy in which you could have helped to save ur lil selfie from your stingy self.
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won't lie, this candle is bigger than my dick lmao.
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WHAT'S HAPPENING!?!!@!!!

Did Elon say something? Are we friends with him again?
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WHAT'S HAPPENING!?!!@!!!

Did Elon say something? Are we friends with him again?
Fuck Elon, we don't need him to succeed. Smiley
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Just noticed that I passed 3k activity. It's been a long grind.

Merit is easy. Activity takes time.  Cool
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