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I think I have Saylors narrative down pretty good at this point..we all do. Still like the man.

since he tends to say a lot of interesting things and he has a lot of great ways of saying things, I have difficulties criticizing him for repetition.  

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You guys can call me a nutbag.

But I think this whole thing is part of the same plan that has been executed since 2 years ago (several decades, really)

Covid was an attempt to get the "vaccine passport" in our phones as a way to grease the rails for digital IDs, and eventually the CDBC wallet.

This "war" being put on for us all?  This is the way to crash the old financial system and usher in the new one.

The first part of the plan did not go nearly as well as they had hoped.  And now we see what is happening with the second part.

The ruble is going to implode on Monday, and there will be a huge run on the Russian banks.
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February 27, 2022, 03:04:36 AM
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Seeing scattered early reports that they are going forward with locking Russian banks out of Swift.

Steady as she goes.

goes where? to a bigger war?
We should have pushed hard for negotiations, instead, even now, before the severity of this goes to something incomprehensible with very large casualties.
Additionally, if you have a large fine, levy or reparations applied to Russia, how are you going to get paid?
This will only make them completely belligerent and not prone to any negotiations.

Before, they said that it (SWIFT disconnect) would be considered as a declaration of war.
Not sure what to make of such statement made in the past, we shall see now how it develops.
Shortly after SWIFT removal, i would be watching for the signs of general mobilization there, and if it happens, then SWHTF.



Yeah that's the hard part in negotiations. On one side try to corner Putin and not give him an inch (Ukraine in NATO, force him to sell gas to EU through Ukraine no Nordsream2) but if you over do it, hell just take over Ukraine, then it definitely wont be in NATO and he wont care about NordStream2, hell gladly sell gas to EU through Ukraine. It appears negotiations have over did it, and unless sanctions will be enough to topple Putin, think negotiations can be considered as a a loss.

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https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-ready-talks-russia-neutral-100400582.html

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Moscow’s security demands include a pause of NATO’s eastward expansion, especially in Ukraine and Georgia, as well as a rollback of NATO troops in Eastern Europe.
The United States has dismissed those demands as nonstarters, demanding Russia pull back its forces from the border with Ukraine and instead offering dialogue with Moscow on issues including military exercises and transparency, as well as the placement of missiles.
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“As I’ve said repeatedly, whether they choose the path of diplomacy and dialogue, whether they decide to renew aggression against Ukraine, we’re prepared either way,” Blinken told reporters.
January 27, 2022 https://www.voanews.com/a/us-responds-to-russia-s-security-demands-renewing-call-for-diplomacy-/6413910.html
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That's the discussion we had last year about the coloured glasses:

But did you check recently? (Most notably between the time you made your comment and the time I made my reply).
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at least they will still be able to watch porn in the Ukraine..right? immense morale victory says I    Grin



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From the latest that i could find, Ukraine reports 160 missile strikes, and 137 casualties. Either Russia is pounding sand, cant hit their targets, or there are a ton of unmanned targets in Ukraine?

Of course they weren't hanging around waiting to be killed. Most missile strikes targeted air force and air defenses, with only a couple hitting civilian targets.

But those who died did so in style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z94QWGO3ILo


Yeah if the recording is true its truly epic. RIP brave souls. Whats even more chilling, it appears that the Ukrainian forces are speaking Russian between each other.   

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Ukrainian soldiers believed to have died while defending an island after telling a Russian warship to “go fuck yourself”, may still be alive, according to Ukraine’s State Border Guard.
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West to cut some Russian banks off from Swift.

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The EU, US and their allies have agreed to cut off a number of Russian banks from the main international payment system, Swift.

The assets of Russia's central bank will also be frozen, limiting Russia's ability to access its overseas reserves.

The intention is to "further isolate Russia from the international financial system", a joint statement said.

Russia is heavily reliant on the Swift system for its key oil and gas exports.

The joint sanctions are the harshest measures imposed to date on Russia over its invasion of Ukraine.


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I think I have Saylors narrative down pretty good at this point..we all do. Still like the man.

since he tends to say a lot of interesting things and he has a lot of great ways of saying things, I have difficulties criticizing him for repetition.  

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That quoted blurb does miss the point that I thought that I was attempting to make.  

I had understood Toxic to be admitting that he had ONLY listened to a few of Saylor's interviews, and also suggesting that he (Toxic) largely understood Saylor's talking points.

I thought that I was making a somewhat long-winded, but maybe not completely direct attempt to proclaim that there still likely would be some value in listening to Saylor's various talking points in their long form because Saylor does seemed to be a very smart and well-studied bitcoiner, even though he (Saylor) is a newbie fresh off the boat) relative to some of us who have been in bitcoin way longer than him....

One more point that Saylor often makes is that there are a lot of folks who denigrate and naysay upon various aspects of bitcoin, but many of those bitcoin naysayers and denigrators of bitcoin have likely NOT spent very many hours studying bitcoin - such as greater than 100 hours, and I believe that Saylor is good for his word in terms of having had studied bitcoin more than 1,000 hours.. and he is not really getting dumber about bitcoin with the passage of time (at least he has not turned upon bitcoin, at least so far)...

and yeah to each their own in terms of believing that there is any additional value to hear Saylor spin bitcoin in some way that happens to be within some earlier framework.. but may or may not end up bringing up some new/interesting insight, and I would surely prefer to listen to Saylor than some dweebs who claim to be bitcoin experts... or even crypto experts.. oooooooo.. don't want to waste time, sometimes when they frame bitcoin in terms of what is going on in "crypto" because I could give few ratt's asses, and so in that regard, Saylor seems to give few shits about "crypto" also, even though sometimes he is presented with some bitcoin versus crypto questions.. ...  .. and I suppose in that regard, I might have my own biases to gravitate to anyone who so far has tended to clearly and unambiguously distinguish bitcoin from shitcoins... and maybe does it in a different way depending on which way any bitcoin versus crypto question is presented to him.

By the way, I hardly even seek out Saylor... but I do have a list of bitcoin related podcasts that I listen to so he does come up and sometimes is a guest of one or more of my regular podcasts.. or some times someone might provide a link here or in this forum that lures me into looking at it.


I would imagine that there would be some risks towards providing such services... .. and for sure interesting times including the extent in which some of these matters are rolling targets that can end up setting precedent...
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West to cut some Russian banks off from Swift.

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The EU, US and their allies have agreed to cut off a number of Russian banks from the main international payment system, Swift.

The assets of Russia's central bank will also be frozen, limiting Russia's ability to access its overseas reserves.

The intention is to "further isolate Russia from the international financial system", a joint statement said.

Russia is heavily reliant on the Swift system for its key oil and gas exports.

The joint sanctions are the harshest measures imposed to date on Russia over its invasion of Ukraine.


Looks like the stakes are being raised once again with a nuclear financial option. Putin might find out what NYKNYC means. I do recall Putin saying that doing this would be considered a declaration of war. Guy with the following tech from the 1960s being cornered with total collapse, smart move? lets all go all in and see who blinks first, what could possibly go wrong  Huh

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Tsar Bomba
  • The flare was visible at a distance of more than 1,000 km.[52] It was observed in Norway, Greenland and Alaska.
  • The explosion's nuclear mushroom rose to a height of 67 km.[14] The shape of the "hat" was two-tiered; the diameter of the upper tier was estimated at 95 km (59 mi), the lower tier at 70 km (43 mi). The cloud was observed 800 km (500 mi) from the explosion site.
  • The blast wave circled the globe three times,[16] with the first one taking 36 hours and 27 minutes.
  • A seismic wave in the earth's crust, generated by the shock wave of the explosion, circled the globe three times.
  • The atmospheric pressure wave resulting from the explosion was recorded three times in New Zealand
  • Glass shattered in windows 780 km (480 mi) from the explosion in a village on Dikson Island.
  • Ionization of the atmosphere caused interference to radio communications even hundreds of kilometers from the test site for about 40 minutes.


 
Meanwhile China finds out that their $3,2trillion in foreign reserves is an IOU that no one has to pay if they don't want to
Ball might also be in their court, either they accept the precedent that "their" foreign reserves are not really theirs (and forget about Taiwan) or they re-raise and ask for their money... Man humans are really fucking stupid
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The Ukrainian government is regularly getting support in btc and other cryptos and they have already been donated around $4 Million from people



The world is with them and hope global peace prevails and bitcoiners are showing support to them.

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