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[JayJuanGee]

I think I have Saylors narrative down pretty good at this point..we all do. Still like the man.

since he tends to say a lot of interesting things and he has a lot of great ways of saying things, I have difficulties criticizing him for repetition.  

 

That quoted blurb does miss the point that I thought that I was attempting to make.  

I had understood Toxic to be admitting that he had ONLY listened to a few of Saylor's interviews, and also suggesting that he (Toxic) largely understood Saylor's talking points.

I thought that I was making a somewhat long-winded, but maybe not completely direct attempt to proclaim that there still likely would be some value in listening to Saylor's various talking points in their long form because Saylor does seemed to be a very smart and well-studied bitcoiner, even though he (Saylor) is a newbie fresh off the boat) relative to some of us who have been in bitcoin way longer than him....

One more point that Saylor often makes is that there are a lot of folks who denigrate and naysay upon various aspects of bitcoin, but many of those bitcoin naysayers and denigrators of bitcoin have likely NOT spent very many hours studying bitcoin - such as greater than 100 hours, and I believe that Saylor is good for his word in terms of having had studied bitcoin more than 1,000 hours.. and he is not really getting dumber about bitcoin with the passage of time (at least he has not turned upon bitcoin, at least so far)...

and yeah to each their own in terms of believing that there is any additional value to hear Saylor spin bitcoin in some way that happens to be within some earlier framework.. but may or may not end up bringing up some new/interesting insight, and I would surely prefer to listen to Saylor than some dweebs who claim to be bitcoin experts... or even crypto experts.. oooooooo.. don't want to waste time, sometimes when they frame bitcoin in terms of what is going on in "crypto" because I could give few ratt's asses, and so in that regard, Saylor seems to give few shits about "crypto" also, even though sometimes he is presented with some bitcoin versus crypto questions.. ...  .. and I suppose in that regard, I might have my own biases to gravitate to anyone who so far has tended to clearly and unambiguously distinguish bitcoin from shitcoins... and maybe does it in a different way depending on which way any bitcoin versus crypto question is presented to him.

By the way, I hardly even seek out Saylor... but I do have a list of bitcoin related podcasts that I listen to so he does come up and sometimes is a guest of one or more of my regular podcasts.. or some times someone might provide a link here or in this forum that lures me into looking at it.

https://twitter.com/APompliano/status/1497709238860357641

I would imagine that there would be some risks towards providing such services... .. and for sure interesting times including the extent in which some of these matters are rolling targets that can end up setting precedent...

[ChartBuddy]

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[DaRude]

West to cut some Russian banks off from Swift.

The EU, US and their allies have agreed to cut off a number of Russian banks from the main international payment system, Swift.

The assets of Russia's central bank will also be frozen, limiting Russia's ability to access its overseas reserves.

The intention is to "further isolate Russia from the international financial system", a joint statement said.

Russia is heavily reliant on the Swift system for its key oil and gas exports.

The joint sanctions are the harshest measures imposed to date on Russia over its invasion of Ukraine.

Looks like the stakes are being raised once again with a nuclear financial option. Putin might find out what NYKNYC means. I do recall Putin saying that doing this would be considered a declaration of war. Guy with the following tech from the 1960s being cornered with total collapse, smart move? lets all go all in and see who blinks first, what could possibly go wrong 

Tsar Bomba

• The flare was visible at a distance of more than 1,000 km.[52] It was observed in Norway, Greenland and Alaska.
• The explosion's nuclear mushroom rose to a height of 67 km.[14] The shape of the "hat" was two-tiered; the diameter of the upper tier was estimated at 95 km (59 mi), the lower tier at 70 km (43 mi). The cloud was observed 800 km (500 mi) from the explosion site.
• The blast wave circled the globe three times,[16] with the first one taking 36 hours and 27 minutes.
• A seismic wave in the earth's crust, generated by the shock wave of the explosion, circled the globe three times.
• The atmospheric pressure wave resulting from the explosion was recorded three times in New Zealand
• Glass shattered in windows 780 km (480 mi) from the explosion in a village on Dikson Island.
  
• Ionization of the atmosphere caused interference to radio communications even hundreds of kilometers from the test site for about 40 minutes.

 
Meanwhile China finds out that their $3,2trillion in foreign reserves is an IOU that no one has to pay if they don't want to
Ball might also be in their court, either they accept the precedent that "their" foreign reserves are not really theirs (and forget about Taiwan) or they re-raise and ask for their money... Man humans are really fucking stupid

[aysg76]

The Ukrainian government is regularly getting support in btc and other cryptos and they have already been donated around $4 Million from people



The world is with them and hope global peace prevails and bitcoiners are showing support to them.

[ChartBuddy]

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[fillippone]

	Fillippone lateral sight is still eagle eye sharp!

Hey Gang!
This piece of art is still available!
Used to be 18K Eur “only”! Maybe some discount after 2 years…

[goldkingcoiner]

	Fillippone lateral sight is still eagle eye sharp!

Hey Gang!
This piece of art is still available!
10K Eur only!

I declare these gold bars and Bitcoins independent currencies and therefore mine.

[ChartBuddy]

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[becoin]

Seizure of Russian CB assets is a declaration of war. WW3 has just started. Nobody wins. The USA will become radioactive desert defending Nazi junta in Kiev. Psychopaths in London and Washington must tell this to people in the West!

[eXPHorizon]

https://youtu.be/TlTBGJI_EwE



In this crazy days we need something to laugh at  

                 

Made me member greatness!!!

I would merit you but I don't have any yet.      


Was that satisfactory enough??

Don't worry about them Merits if you had a laughter out of this then there is the Merit i was looking for.


Very satisfactory

 

[ChartBuddy]

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[somac.]

Seizure of Russian CB assets is a declaration of war. WW3 has just started. Nobody wins. The USA will become radioactive desert defending Nazi junta in Kiev. Psychopaths in London and Washington must tell this to people in the West!

Along with the SWIFT restrictions this is being a bit overblown I think. Their assets aren't being seized.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/devastating-move-us-weighs-sanctions-russias-central-bank-germany-backs-targeted

• Commit to ensuring that "selected Russian banks" are removed from the SWIFT messaging system: "This will ensure that these banks are disconnected from the international financial system and harm their ability to operate globally."
• Commit to imposing "restrictive measures that will prevent the Russian Central Bank from deploying its international reserves in ways that undermine the impact of our sanctions."
• Commit to "acting against the people and entities who facilitate the war in Ukraine" by taking measures to limit the sale of citizenship, so called golden passports, that let wealthy Russians connected to the Russian government become citizens
• Commit to launching "a transatlantic task force that will ensure the effective implementation of our financial sanctions by identifying and freezing the assets of sanctioned individuals and companies that exist within our jurisdictions."
• Stepping up or coordination against disinformation and other forms of hybrid warfare.

Also note that the Russian CB assets will continue to expand as Europe will continue their purchases of oil and gas. If the Russian CB can't make use of these assets because they have been frozen, they will no longer accept Euros for them and will instead demand payment in Rubles, Yuan, or BTC? If Europe doesn't pay, there will be no gas or oil. In other words, no way are they really freezing any Russian CB assets.

[becoin]

Kharkov the second largest city in Ukraine is liberated today. The population can now speak their mother language Russian without any fear.

[modrobert]

Seizure of Russian CB assets is a declaration of war. WW3 has just started. Nobody wins. The USA will become radioactive desert defending Nazi junta in Kiev. Psychopaths in London and Washington must tell this to people in the West!

Along with the SWIFT restrictions this is being a bit overblown I think. Their assets aren't being seized.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/devastating-move-us-weighs-sanctions-russias-central-bank-germany-backs-targeted

• Commit to ensuring that "selected Russian banks" are removed from the SWIFT messaging system: "This will ensure that these banks are disconnected from the international financial system and harm their ability to operate globally."
• Commit to imposing "restrictive measures that will prevent the Russian Central Bank from deploying its international reserves in ways that undermine the impact of our sanctions."
• Commit to "acting against the people and entities who facilitate the war in Ukraine" by taking measures to limit the sale of citizenship, so called golden passports, that let wealthy Russians connected to the Russian government become citizens
• Commit to launching "a transatlantic task force that will ensure the effective implementation of our financial sanctions by identifying and freezing the assets of sanctioned individuals and companies that exist within our jurisdictions."
• Stepping up or coordination against disinformation and other forms of hybrid warfare.

Also note that the Russian CB assets will continue to expand as Europe will continue their purchases of oil and gas. If the Russian CB can't make use of these assets because they have been frozen, they will no longer accept Euros for them and will instead demand payment in Rubles, Yuan, or BTC? If Europe doesn't pay, there will be no gas or oil. In other words, no way are they really freezing any Russian CB assets.

At first glance I thought this would be good for Bitcoin, but getting second thoughts, this could backfire and result in more BTC regulations.

I think the SWIFT restrictions will affect the common people (working class) of Russia the most, if some country wants to buy gas from Russia they can bypass all of this without using Bitcoin (or other crypto currency) easily. The rich will just flee to their luxury bunkers eventually if the war support (on both sides) keep going at this rate.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[somac.]

Seizure of Russian CB assets is a declaration of war. WW3 has just started. Nobody wins. The USA will become radioactive desert defending Nazi junta in Kiev. Psychopaths in London and Washington must tell this to people in the West!

Along with the SWIFT restrictions this is being a bit overblown I think. Their assets aren't being seized.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/devastating-move-us-weighs-sanctions-russias-central-bank-germany-backs-targeted

• Commit to ensuring that "selected Russian banks" are removed from the SWIFT messaging system: "This will ensure that these banks are disconnected from the international financial system and harm their ability to operate globally."
• Commit to imposing "restrictive measures that will prevent the Russian Central Bank from deploying its international reserves in ways that undermine the impact of our sanctions."
• Commit to "acting against the people and entities who facilitate the war in Ukraine" by taking measures to limit the sale of citizenship, so called golden passports, that let wealthy Russians connected to the Russian government become citizens
• Commit to launching "a transatlantic task force that will ensure the effective implementation of our financial sanctions by identifying and freezing the assets of sanctioned individuals and companies that exist within our jurisdictions."
• Stepping up or coordination against disinformation and other forms of hybrid warfare.

Also note that the Russian CB assets will continue to expand as Europe will continue their purchases of oil and gas. If the Russian CB can't make use of these assets because they have been frozen, they will no longer accept Euros for them and will instead demand payment in Rubles, Yuan, or BTC? If Europe doesn't pay, there will be no gas or oil. In other words, no way are they really freezing any Russian CB assets.

At first glance I thought this would be good for Bitcoin, but getting second thoughts, this could backfire and result in more BTC regulations.

I think the SWIFT restrictions will affect the common people (working class) of Russia the most, if some country wants to buy gas from Russia they can bypass all of this without using Bitcoin (or other crypto currency) easily. The rich will just flee to their luxury bunkers eventually if the war support (on both sides) keep going at this rate.

Of course the restrictions will hurt the common folk the most, that's been proven over and over again. Sanctions do nothing but screw over the people. And you're right it may be bad for Bitcoin, but Russia will not be getting cut off, because to do that would mean that Europe will collapse. It's all talk. smoke and mirrors, the elites everywhere will be unaffected.

[hisslyness]

Seizure of Russian CB assets is a declaration of war. WW3 has just started. Nobody wins. The USA will become radioactive desert defending Nazi junta in Kiev. Psychopaths in London and Washington must tell this to people in the West!

Along with the SWIFT restrictions this is being a bit overblown I think. Their assets aren't being seized.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/devastating-move-us-weighs-sanctions-russias-central-bank-germany-backs-targeted

• Commit to ensuring that "selected Russian banks" are removed from the SWIFT messaging system: "This will ensure that these banks are disconnected from the international financial system and harm their ability to operate globally."
• Commit to imposing "restrictive measures that will prevent the Russian Central Bank from deploying its international reserves in ways that undermine the impact of our sanctions."
• Commit to "acting against the people and entities who facilitate the war in Ukraine" by taking measures to limit the sale of citizenship, so called golden passports, that let wealthy Russians connected to the Russian government become citizens
• Commit to launching "a transatlantic task force that will ensure the effective implementation of our financial sanctions by identifying and freezing the assets of sanctioned individuals and companies that exist within our jurisdictions."
• Stepping up or coordination against disinformation and other forms of hybrid warfare.

Also note that the Russian CB assets will continue to expand as Europe will continue their purchases of oil and gas. If the Russian CB can't make use of these assets because they have been frozen, they will no longer accept Euros for them and will instead demand payment in Rubles, Yuan, or BTC? If Europe doesn't pay, there will be no gas or oil. In other words, no way are they really freezing any Russian CB assets.

At first glance I thought this would be good for Bitcoin, but getting second thoughts, this could backfire and result in more BTC regulations.

I think the SWIFT restrictions will affect the common people (working class) of Russia the most, if some country wants to buy gas from Russia they can bypass all of this without using Bitcoin (or other crypto currency) easily. The rich will just flee to their luxury bunkers eventually if the war support (on both sides) keep going at this rate.

Of course the restrictions will hurt the common folk the most, that's been proven over and over again. Sanctions do nothing but screw over the people. And you're right it may be bad for Bitcoin, but Russia will not be getting cut off, because to do that would mean that Europe will collapse. It's all talk. smoke and mirrors, the elites everywhere will be unaffected.

This kind of reminds me of the post from satoshi....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2216.msg29280#msg29280

[modrobert]

Seizure of Russian CB assets is a declaration of war. WW3 has just started. Nobody wins. The USA will become radioactive desert defending Nazi junta in Kiev. Psychopaths in London and Washington must tell this to people in the West!

Along with the SWIFT restrictions this is being a bit overblown I think. Their assets aren't being seized.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/devastating-move-us-weighs-sanctions-russias-central-bank-germany-backs-targeted

• Commit to ensuring that "selected Russian banks" are removed from the SWIFT messaging system: "This will ensure that these banks are disconnected from the international financial system and harm their ability to operate globally."
• Commit to imposing "restrictive measures that will prevent the Russian Central Bank from deploying its international reserves in ways that undermine the impact of our sanctions."
• Commit to "acting against the people and entities who facilitate the war in Ukraine" by taking measures to limit the sale of citizenship, so called golden passports, that let wealthy Russians connected to the Russian government become citizens
• Commit to launching "a transatlantic task force that will ensure the effective implementation of our financial sanctions by identifying and freezing the assets of sanctioned individuals and companies that exist within our jurisdictions."
• Stepping up or coordination against disinformation and other forms of hybrid warfare.

Also note that the Russian CB assets will continue to expand as Europe will continue their purchases of oil and gas. If the Russian CB can't make use of these assets because they have been frozen, they will no longer accept Euros for them and will instead demand payment in Rubles, Yuan, or BTC? If Europe doesn't pay, there will be no gas or oil. In other words, no way are they really freezing any Russian CB assets.

At first glance I thought this would be good for Bitcoin, but getting second thoughts, this could backfire and result in more BTC regulations.

I think the SWIFT restrictions will affect the common people (working class) of Russia the most, if some country wants to buy gas from Russia they can bypass all of this without using Bitcoin (or other crypto currency) easily. The rich will just flee to their luxury bunkers eventually if the war support (on both sides) keep going at this rate.

Of course the restrictions will hurt the common folk the most, that's been proven over and over again. Sanctions do nothing but screw over the people. And you're right it may be bad for Bitcoin, but Russia will not be getting cut off, because to do that would mean that Europe will collapse. It's all talk. smoke and mirrors, the elites everywhere will be unaffected.

I think you are right about the "smoke and mirrors" part, or at least that was the initial plan, but the ongoing warmongering on both sides is spinning out of control, hate feeds into more hate. After asking around among my friends, I'm the only one promoting peace at the moment, didn't get a single person in here to agree about that either (so far).

[somac.]

I think you are right about the "smoke and mirrors" part, or at least that was the initial plan, but the ongoing warmongering on both sides is spinning out of control, hate feeds into more hate. After asking around among my friends, I'm the only one promoting peace at the moment, didn't get a single person in here to agree about that either (so far).

It's a sports team thing. Most people love to support their team despite it being detrimental to them. The players on the team and owners get rich, as the supporters hand over their hard earned money on tickets and paraphernalia. The other team is of course the enemy and they must be yelled at and insulted. Pride is of paramount importance. It seems war is no different, a team is picked, history ignored, and the leaders (and a few soldiers/players) are made into heroic celebrities as the people starve and die in ditches.

We also bitch and bicker about who is wrong and why. All the while ignoring the real problem that starts all conflicts, which is having unrepresentative opaque governments with sociopathic celebrity leaders.