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August 07, 2023, 04:50:06 PM

im loaded on pain meds from a back fusion.. and just as i recall when i was addicted to opioids many many decades ago, that pain relief can come with an unholy cost. glad i (just barely) beat it then. hope to beat it again and be off the opioids in a few more days.

Have you tried cannabis to augment or replace the opioids? If you administer it rectally it bypasses the liver and you don't get high. I take massive doses daily to ease my COPD. I use refined weed oil with equal parts THC and CBD buffered with cacao butter. That would probably work well for pain relief but maybe more THC would be better.

Of course you can always add more moderate doses orally or by inhalation if you want to get blasted. Sometimes dissociative analgesia helps.

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August 07, 2023, 04:57:30 PM

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Try again.
Hey Jay,
It's true that I did not notice that line.
But I can do what is not mentioned in this post. I will give these $10M to my wife and ask her to buy 300 Bitcoins  Grin
I am banned from doing something related to Bitcoin, but my family members aren't.  Cheesy

Nope. 

You should know better than that.   Roll Eyes

You are still fighting the hypothetical.

You cannot use an agent to do the same thing that you would want to do but are not able to do and which is for you to be able to get outside of the hypothetical.

Hint, hint... you need to work within the parameters of the hypothetical, including both the technicalities and the spirit of the hypothetical.

Try again.

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Well JayJuanGee,
If he chooses $10M he doesn't buy Bitcoin and mentioned that the alternative doesn't use again. My opinion is to buy 100 Bitcoin that have more potential rather than $10M. Bitcoin is Future 100BTC= Future King

Ok... so it sounds like you are choosing BTC rather than the $10 million.  Right?

But Learn bitcoin found a clever loophole in the hypothetical scenario!

He didn't find a loophole, or even anything clever at all, even if that is what he might have thought that he had accomplished. 

He is fighting the hypothetical...and not working within its parameters in order to answer the question.

Passing the decision to his wife or family member who isn't restricted could indeed be a way to get around the limitations.

NOT.

I think his creative solution highlights the importance of thinking outside the box.

Just like a shitcoiner.


You are correct.

Very creative.


So creative that they can create their own rules of physics, right?

Are you sure that you are in the right thread BitcoinPak?

Maybe you accidentally choose your name wrong? 

What about changing your name to "VitalikPak".. that has a nice ring to it.

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I wouldn't have had guessed.

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If you sweat every $100-200 move in the current btc price, then you are over-invested.

BTW, Lawrence Livermore (as depicted/documented in the linked book) said that if you start thinking that profit in your investment would immediately "pay" for something, then Mr. market tends to punish you (almost immediately).

https://www.amazon.com/Reminiscences-Stock-Operator-Edwin-Lef%C3%A8vre/dp/0471770884
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BTC Bitcoin= Time

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August 07, 2023, 05:32:13 PM
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If you sweat every $100-200 move in the current btc price, then you are over-invested.
It is always advisable to invest what will not make one lose sleep. Those who follow that principle will not be perturbed by the current market condition because Bitcoin will always come out stronger and better. Instead of panicking, the best is to buy more at any opportunity provided you are in a good financial standing and that you don't need the money urgently.


BTW, Lawrence Livermore (as depicted/documented in the linked book) said that if you start thinking that profit in your investment would immediately "pay" for something, then Mr. market tend to punish you (almost immediately).

https://www.amazon.com/Reminiscences-Stock-Operator-Edwin-Lef%C3%A8vre/dp/0471770884
I have experienced this trading the currency market. The market do not really care about your feelings, your needs and whatever.... it has to do what it wants to do. Ours is to do what we think is the best reaction to the market, manage our risk properly and allow it play out.
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August 07, 2023, 05:46:50 PM

don't worry..... be happy.....  and love.
it's the solution for every disease no drug is better then love.



no, but it last for short term, when someone is in love his whole day goes great without remembering any pain.
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August 07, 2023, 06:06:37 PM

In my opinion, I don't expected any deep drop in price anymore. That era is gone and soon volume will begin to increase as well as the price.
That's the spirit!!!!

I am glad that you moved away from the earlier doom and gloom in your post, but we know it is good to be prepared for either direction, which surely is a thing that is possible to accomplish.
I am learning and growing and one sign of it is the ability to adjust my views when presented with plausible reasons and evidence.

All within the same post?

That seems to be more appropriately called "wiffle-waffling."

I would not call it "learning and growing.".. but hey.. whatever.  You do you.   Tongue

Sunday musings...

Most people right now:
they don't believe in bitcoin
Well, more for me, then
#haiku
It does seem like the market is getting a little exhausted. I think the folks who got in at the bottom have likely all sold now. I’m not sure where the increased selling is coming from that’s holding the price down still. I’m not sure how much longer this will continue, but I definitely don’t expect it to remain a trend after April of next year due to the halving.
That would be a long time to stay in the "don't wake me up" zone of perhaps $25k to $35k.... which more specifically would be an additional 8 months... and we have already been here nearly 5 months,. .. I am not buying it.  13 months?  Not buying it.  Not buying it.

In udder wurdz, the odds don't seem to be very strong for such a scenario of continuing to stay in this "don't wake me up" zone for a total of 13-ish months... what are we going to say?  less than 15% odds for such a scenario to play out? 

in udder wurdz, why give such a minority scenario so much attention?

Maybe I got those odds wrong?  Perhaps?  Almost anything is possible.
I think the current market condition is more of a game of psychology and require same to understand. Bitcoin broke structure to the upside around $29,555 zone, with huge buy momentum. This mean the market is a buyer market with protective stop around $28,539. So, the retracement is to make people who got it right doubt their decision and to accumulate more orders before we see the rally that will take prize first to around $33,000 as first target, thereafter other higher prices will follow.

Those who already got in earlier are lucky as we will see good upside moves very soon ceteris paribus.

But what do your proclamations mean?

Are we soontm getting out of the "don't wake me up zone," or not?

Very... not... happy... fuuuuccckkkk

King daddy is doing this, just for you, bawb.

I am not sure why, but I do know that shit does happen.

If you sweat every $100-200 move in the current btc price, then you are over-invested.

BTW, Lawrence Livermore (as depicted/documented in the linked book) said that if you start thinking that profit in your investment would immediately "pay" for something, then Mr. market tend to punish you (almost immediately).
https://www.amazon.com/Reminiscences-Stock-Operator-Edwin-Lef%C3%A8vre/dp/0471770884

I might be guilty of what LL seems to be criticizing.

I recall that around November / December 2022, the 200-week moving average was ONLY moving up around $10 per day.

So if a hypothetical person in a similar position to uie-pooie (or to your previous hypothetical person) were to have 20 bitcoin, then in November/December 2022, the value of that person's BTC portfolio would have had been going up right around $200 per day.

So now that the 200-week moving average is going up right close to $16 per day, so conditions have improved for that hypothetical person who may well be still holding 20 BTC, and currently such person is getting right around $320 per day increased value from those 20 BTC.

Let's say that such hypothetical person spends around 100 days (a bit more than 3 months without cashing out any BTC, and perhaps even acquiring more BTC (and maybe we get  up to 21 BTC at some point?)), and even if the size of the BTC holdings largely stays the same at 20-ish BTC, by not cashing out any of those BTC, we have just built up around $32k in extra value - a further cushion upon which we could draw without depleting the value of our BTC holdings, if we were to want to exercise such an option which comes merely from BTC value appreciation that is based upon the rate of the 200-week moving average going up at a higher pace than it had in the past.. but also its base is continuing to build and build and build, too. 

Remember March 2020 when BTC prices dipped below the 200-week moving average?  The BTC price went down to $3,850-ish, and the 200-week moving average was ONLY around $5,488-ish.. and it was moving up at a slower pace, too.. like only a dollar or two per day. 

It just seems kind of fascinating to me, including that the value continues to go up at an increasing pace and it seems to be a kind of compounding upon itself, and still the newbies are likely to continue to have painful years in terms of their acquiring BTC and getting their BTC holdings into profits, but at the same time, for those who have been in BTC for a decently long time, it remains ongoingly interesting to lively witness how the theories seem to be playing out in practice and showing in the indicators.

And, by the way,  how difficult do you believe that it would be for the PTB or anyone else.. a bitcoin naysayer, a anti-bitcoin whale, to cause the 200-week moving average to discontinue moving up?.. sure they might slow it down.. perhaps? perhaps?  But, I am getting the sense that the 200-week moving average is going to continue to compound upon itself and the substantive rate upon which it moves up is going to get greater and greater and greater (even if the percentage might not exactly be increasing.. the percentage is probably like to slope downwardly... but still.. it is still an exciting phenomena, even for people who might not have as many BTC.. but surely better for those who have BTC than for those who either are low coiners or who do not have any BTC)
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#bitcoin

1 last dump before the GIGA pump?

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Those shit coins aren't gems, most of them are totally useless and people just take them to higher levels due to their own stupidity. The only coin that I know exists is the Bitcoin, the others are shit-coins and even considering them as a proper way to invest your money would be the worst injustice some does with their money.
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Those shit coins aren't gems, most of them are totally useless and people just take them to higher levels due to their own stupidity. The only coin that I know exists is the Bitcoin, the others are shit-coins and even considering them as a proper way to invest your money would be the worst injustice some does with their money.

Umm.. You didn't get it! Tongue
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Those shit coins aren't gems, most of them are totally useless and people just take them to higher levels due to their own stupidity. The only coin that I know exists is the Bitcoin, the others are shit-coins and even considering them as a proper way to invest your money would be the worst injustice some does with their money.

Umm.. You didn't get it! Tongue

I got it and I must say that people have made their mind to search for those coins which could change their lives, but they forget about the coin that really has the power to change the whole world's lives in a better way. The shit coins may make a few people rich, but they really doesn't have anything special to offer, and the ones who search for those coins are out of their minds. I firmly believe that the only gem in the world of crypto-currencies is Bitcoin, and rest of the coins are just coins not gems.
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Those shit coins aren't gems, most of them are totally useless and people just take them to higher levels due to their own stupidity. The only coin that I know exists is the Bitcoin, the others are shit-coins and even considering them as a proper way to invest your money would be the worst injustice some does with their money.
Umm.. You didn't get it! Tongue

What I get from that illustration (questioning why we need to try to figure out any particular dilemmas that the blind shitcoiners might be having..when the solution has likely been staring into the faces of their lil selfies.. like dorothy always had the power to go home.. she just didn't know it) and from SR's comment is fuck shitcoins.
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In my opinion, I don't expected any deep drop in price anymore. That era is gone and soon volume will begin to increase as well as the price.
That's the spirit!!!!

I am glad that you moved away from the earlier doom and gloom in your post, but we know it is good to be prepared for either direction, which surely is a thing that is possible to accomplish.
I am learning and growing and one sign of it is the ability to adjust my views when presented with plausible reasons and evidence.

All within the same post?

That seems to be more appropriately called "wiffle-waffling."

I would not call it "learning and growing.".. but hey.. whatever.  You do you.   Tongue
Actually, the market have a way of putting one into confusion especially with this extended consolidation. Nevertheless, I have always maintained that we are not going to go south down to $24k region; this is my general bias and expectations. Prior to we having this conversation, I was a kind of fixed on this bias and never willing to consider any possibilities of a drop to even $20k or lower.

It seems that in the past few weeks, I had posted in another thread and disclosed that I had around 2.5% of my total BTC allocated investment funds that are in cash, and so currently, I have BTC buy orders all the way down to $13k-ish, but I really don't expect anything to fill lower than $24k-ish.. but sure if some of them end up filling lower than $24k, then so be it, but I don't expect it and I don't even want it...
But later learnt from your above that even though you wish price never get lower, you already made plans for such scenerio... that is the learning I was emphasizing. I have come to understand, from this discussion, that the market need a lot of flexibility instead of being fixated on a bias.

At least we have a common ground which is an upside move for Bitcoin.


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Those shit coins aren't gems, most of them are totally useless and people just take them to higher levels due to their own stupidity. The only coin that I know exists is the Bitcoin, the others are shit-coins and even considering them as a proper way to invest your money would be the worst injustice some does with their money.
Umm.. You didn't get it! Tongue

What I get from that illustration (questioning why we need to try to figure out any particular dilemmas that the blind shitcoiners might be having..when the solution has likely been staring into the faces of their lil selfies.. like dorothy always had the power to go home.. she just didn't know it) and from SR's comment is fuck shitcoins.

Yeah, you got my point right buddy! Just f**k those shit-coins because they are just a type of pollution in the environment of crypto-world which is totally dependent on the presence of Bitcoin and Bitcoin only. I think that even fiat is better than those shit-coins because most of them are 100% useless and they exist only because of those people who are totally blind to see the full picture. The only two shit-coins I think could be of use is either Lite Coin, or USD-T but still they are not for the purpose of investment. For investors the only good and valuable coin in the world is Bitcoin!
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