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October 10, 2025, 04:25:33 PM

Well a retreat to 118.6k and I grabbed some.

we are bouncing back to 119.1k

maybe I caught the bottom with the 118.6 buy
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October 10, 2025, 04:26:04 PM

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Weeks ago I would never have guessed that BTC at ~$122,200 (as I write) would be even MOAR undervalued vs. gold.  Gold is now at about $4045, up from about $3000 back in February 2025.

1 BTC only buys you 0.94 kg Au (bitbo.io).

BTC is undervalued.

We are still early, so Bitcoin was and will always undervalued until "analog people" die away and "digital people" rule the world
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October 10, 2025, 04:31:50 PM
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Well a retreat to 118.6k and I grabbed some.

we are bouncing back to 119.1k

maybe I caught the bottom with the 118.6 buy

If I were Bob, I'd say my plums tell me differently. Being just me, I'll say it's my gut. I think we're revisiting some low numbers over the weekend while the dust settles.

Disclaimer: full SOMA.
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October 10, 2025, 04:46:00 PM

Abu Dhabi Airports to start accepting Bitcoin and crypto as payment
The world wants Bitcoin

https://x.com/BTC_Archive/status/1976688196176982388?t=mvukEXuSBXSdHLdHBSHTzA&s=19
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Explanation
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October 10, 2025, 05:09:19 PM

Well Trump’s ruined the bull market.

Q4 torched by that orange retard.

The top might be in, hard to see us pumping significantly now. Stocks down, Bitcoin down more obviously. Zero strength here, pathetic. Tariff FUD lasted months last time so cycle possibly over.

Glad I sold some Friday @ 121k.
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October 10, 2025, 05:13:20 PM
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Well Trump’s ruined the bull market.
I may have missed it, but what happened?



If a single person can ruin the bull market, Bitcoin deserves it. So I refuse to believe this is possible.
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Well Trump’s ruined the bull market.
I may have missed it, but what happened?



If a single person can ruin the bull market, Bitcoin deserves it. So I refuse to believe this is possible.

A post raving against China being bigly baad, especially with export controls on rare earths, and yuuge anti-China tariffs coming. Wait, I'm fetching a link...

EDIT Here it is
https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/1976664345435414918
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Well Trump’s ruined the bull market.
I may have missed it, but what happened?



If a single person can ruin the bull market, Bitcoin deserves it. So I refuse to believe this is possible.

Trade war escalation with China. Tariffs BS again!

Shouldn’t make the slightest difference to Bitcoin but as usual weak hands are selling.

Any normal time this is, whatever. It’s Q4 though of a post halving year. We can’t afford a big correction now. Seasonally this is supposed to be pump time.
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October 10, 2025, 05:20:01 PM
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The top might be in, hard to see us pumping significantly now. Stocks down, Bitcoin down more obviously. Zero strength here, pathetic. Tariff FUD lasted months last time so cycle possibly over.
The good question is what you're going to sell bitcoin for.
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October 10, 2025, 05:20:23 PM

Trade war escalation with China. Tariffs BS again!
Shouldn’t make the slightest difference to Bitcoin
Eventually it won't.

but as usual weak hands are selling.
Let lettuce let his lattice hands leak corn.
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October 10, 2025, 05:22:08 PM

Well a retreat to 118.6k and I grabbed some.

we are bouncing back to 119.1k

maybe I caught the bottom with the 118.6 buy

If I were Bob, I'd say my plums tell me differently. Being just me, I'll say it's my gut. I think we're revisiting some low numbers over the weekend while the dust settles.

Disclaimer: full SOMA.

got some 117.9 dip just now so you are right that 118.6 is not low enough

thank god for the copper and silver sales
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October 10, 2025, 05:31:31 PM
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The top might be in, hard to see us pumping significantly now. Stocks down, Bitcoin down more obviously. Zero strength here, pathetic. Tariff FUD lasted months last time so cycle possibly over.
The good question is what you're going to sell bitcoin for.

weed


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October 10, 2025, 06:01:51 PM

Well Trump’s ruined the bull market.
I may have missed it, but what happened?



If a single person can ruin the bull market, Bitcoin deserves it. So I refuse to believe this is possible.

A post raving against China being bigly baad, especially with export controls on rare earths, and yuuge anti-China tariffs coming. Wait, I'm fetching a link...

EDIT Here it is
https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/1976664345435414918

Yeah but my silver and copper will go up up up
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A post raving against China being bigly baad, especially with export controls on rare earths, and yuuge anti-China tariffs coming.
So you're saying this still works people still care? Haven't we seen this, like, 20 times already?
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And the gold is up again. Recently the Bulgarian National Bank has bought 2 tons of gold in preparation for the transition from the national currency to euro from 1st Jan 2026. Another reason for this pump is that most of the bank apps in EU now offer various options for buying ETFs, gold, etc. And only revolut is offering Bitcoin  with a huge 1.5% fee. So, the retail interest unfortunately is shifted towards gold now. I am afraid that our expectations for an exponential Q4 might be dissapointed. I'm used to dissapointments, so I don't really care. What most people don't realize is that historically gold lost nearly 50% of its value for nearly 10 years. So, the stabiity of gold is pure illusion and can rug-pull you just like any other crapto.

I am not expert in Gold trading, but Gold price is 'All Time High' in my country and I am sure same is the case in rest of the world. Few of my friends who do gold trading are selling and taking profits at current ATH.  

The Bitcoin price dump may not be good thing for people who already have lot of Bitcoins in there portfolio but for folks like me who are still gathering Bitcoins, the dumps are welcomed as they allow us to spend more on gathering Bitcoin. The price of Bitcoin will eventually recover in the long run, just gather and HODL.
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October 10, 2025, 06:25:03 PM


Yeah but my silver and copper will go up up up

Phil - I think Silver rose above $50 oz, didn't it?
 
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October 10, 2025, 06:28:33 PM
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xi hits where it hurts
markets go down in a flash
orange man raging

tarrifs are terror
on an economic scale
sending us lower

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Well Trump’s ruined the bull market.

Q4 torched by that orange retard.

The top might be in, hard to see us pumping significantly now. Stocks down, Bitcoin down more obviously. Zero strength here, pathetic. Tariff FUD lasted months last time so cycle possibly over.

Glad I sold some Friday @ 121k.

Retail is absolutely missing as well.
This time it's different.
My rule in this game: If in doubt, hodl.
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October 10, 2025, 06:30:50 PM

xi hits where it hurts
markets go down in a flash
orange man raging

tarrifs are terror
on an economic scale
sending us lower

#blackfridayhaiku

We have seen that tariffs got settled anyway.
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