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[rpietila]

Once I sold an excelsheet for EUR 6,000... no, actually it was my friend, but he taught me how to do it. It had cost 500 to make it however. So we sold it to some other guys as well to cover the costs.

ADD: The graph was included in the price.

[freebit13]

why we fight

Needless to say, most of those "advantages" are killer disadvantages to most people (and to all governments, including highly democratic ones).  Like "there are no age requirements" --- guess who wanted those reqirements in the first place.

Others are demonstrably false or misleading, eg. "it is more difficult to be used as surveillance", "it can be used to resist corruption",  "it can be extremely hard to steal", "it allows movement across borders", ...

And, as usual, it says "bitcoin" when all those properties hold for any cryptocurrency with similar protocol, and many of the good ones hold even for cryptocurrencies with centralized management.

What color is the sky on your planet?

These properties did not exist before bitcoin. Some people would rightly point out that many of these properties can be duplicated. There is, however, one extremely important factor that separates bitcoin from any other digital coins on the horizon: the protective shell created by the network that prevents it from being hacked or commandeered.

[Bitcoin_is_here_to_stay]

i'll bid 2 btc and just give out the 200,000BTC to there rightful owners

everyone cool with a 10K BTC un-goxing service fee??

where do i bid?

I bid 10 BTC to take over the remaining 200,000 BTC. Seems legit

The surprising part for me is that victims's lawyers support it. Do they know something we do not? Or have not learnt their lesson yet?

[elux]

Richard Branson (Virgin Group founder), Jerry Yang (Yahoo! co-founder) invest $30M in BitPay: http://techcrunch.com/2014/05/08/bitpay-index/

[Bitcoin_is_here_to_stay]

Once I sold an excelsheet for EUR 6,000... no, actually it was my friend, but he taught me how to do it. It had cost 500 to make it however. So we sold it to some other guys as well to cover the costs.

LOL, in that case some people would pay you a lot for contact info of these buyers - or to do their marketing.

[kurious]

i'll bid 2 btc and just give out the 200,000BTC to there rightful owners

everyone cool with a 10K BTC un-goxing service fee??

where do i bid?

I bid 10 BTC to take over the remaining 200,000 BTC. Seems legit

The surprising part for me is that victims's lawyers support it. Do they know something we do not? Or have not learnt their lesson yet?

Er... I am a victim, and I don't.  Nor does my lawyer.  Does anyone know anyone who was actually consulted?  

Edit: OK, not a massive loss, but a victim nonetheless.

[mmitech]

Once I sold an excelsheet for EUR 6,000... no, actually it was my friend, but he taught me how to do it. It had cost 500 to make it however. So we sold it to some other guys as well to cover the costs.

ADD: The graph was included in the price.

I like the fact that it is an excelsheet not a bot or an algorithm...... you remind me of Rafik el khalifa who managed to fuck a billion dollar company that was built from ground because of his greed.

continue like this and you will end up at the known scammer list of Bitcoin land, except people know your identity, so they might come after you 

[Bitcoin_is_here_to_stay]

i'll bid 2 btc and just give out the 200,000BTC to there rightful owners

everyone cool with a 10K BTC un-goxing service fee??

where do i bid?

I bid 10 BTC to take over the remaining 200,000 BTC. Seems legit

The surprising part for me is that victims's lawyers support it. Do they know something we do not? Or have not learnt their lesson yet?

Er... I am a victim, and I don't.  Nor does my lawyer.  Does anyone know anyone who was actually consulted?  

Edit: OK, not a massive loss, but a victim nonetheless.

The news - on coin desk and such - make it sound as if there is an international coalition of Mt. Gox. victims who thinks this taking over is best for them.

But perhaps a couple of biggest holders want to divide these 200,000 BTC among them, at the cost of smaller holders like you ... Would be sad but at least would make some sense. I cannot make my mind around Gox victims suddenly wanting to invest in Mt. Gox instead of getting their portion of newly found 200,000 BTC. Settling with Gox's second in command before any real investigation started is a strange move, too

[oda.krell]

Richard Branson (Virgin Group founder), Jerry Yang (Yahoo! co-founder) invest $30M in BitPay: http://techcrunch.com/2014/05/08/bitpay-index/

You know what's funny?

For months we had a constant influx of good news (bad ones as well, of course, but that's another matter) but I mentally just blocked them out. I knew they just don't matter if the market isn't ready yet, so I didn't even bother with them. This is the first time in a long time I clicked and read a 'good news' item... so what does that mean?

Choo choo, maybe?

More likely, just means I'll buy in too early and see my net value drop :P

[adamstgBit]

I have an excel spreadsheet that calculates profits given a buy / sell price, it includes trading fee and everything

very useful when trying to figure out how little it will cost for bitcoin to make you rich.

ill sell the spreadsheet for 0.006BTC

[adamstgBit]

i'll bid 2 btc and just give out the 200,000BTC to there rightful owners

everyone cool with a 10K BTC un-goxing service fee??

where do i bid?

I bid 10 BTC to take over the remaining 200,000 BTC. Seems legit

The surprising part for me is that victims's lawyers support it. Do they know something we do not? Or have not learnt their lesson yet?

Er... I am a victim, and I don't.  Nor does my lawyer.  Does anyone know anyone who was actually consulted?  

Edit: OK, not a massive loss, but a victim nonetheless.

The news - on coin desk and such - make it sound as if there is an international coalition of Mt. Gox. victims who thinks this taking over is best for them.

But perhaps a couple of biggest holders want to divide these 200,000 BTC among them, at the cost of smaller holders like you ... Would be sad but at least would make some sense. I cannot make my mind around Gox victims suddenly wanting to invest in Mt. Gox instead of getting their portion of newly found 200,000 BTC. Settling with Gox's second in command before any real investigation started is a strange move, too

whats attractive about it is that they can recover all their lost funds over a few years

but its really risky, and if the guys plan is to reuse mtgox code and patch the security hole, then this WILL end in a GOXING

[mmitech]

I can convert your spreadsheet to a code and implement it (python, C++...) for 0.06BTC (max 10 lines)
I can also implement a small company network with all needed windows server (2012 optional) AD, DHCP, DNS all included for 6 BTC
I can set up your blog/site based on woomerce/wordpress/joomla or basically from scratch (if it is a static site) and admin it for one month for 6BTC
I can..... do real fucking job for 6BTC that can change the way you do things  

[rpietila]

LOL, in that case some people would pay you a lot for contact info of these buyers - or to do their marketing.

The sheet was full of data of course. Funny that people ridicule excelsheets, even though very often they are the absolutely easiest way to do some thing, and even when not, it is generally possible to do everything with Excel.

Just found out that the same parameters would have earned you 3.4x bitcoins between April and July, 2013..

[Mervyn_Pumpkinhead]

Once I sold an excelsheet for EUR 6,000... no, actually it was my friend, but he taught me how to do it. It had cost 500 to make it however. So we sold it to some other guys as well to cover the costs.

ADD: The graph was included in the price.

Never underestimate the lucrativeness of scamming fools.
It's funny how people here are only now seeing you as a fraud.
But no worries! I bet there are still a lot of fools left who believe you. You just have to keep acting like an character from an Mexican soap opera (lots of talks about castles and cigars) and there will be always some get-rich-quick fool, who see you as an respectable businessman. If an inexperienced fool imagines how an businessman is like, then the outcome is a parody, just like you.

Just a reminder for the potential customers/investors/victims, that you are trying to fish out from this forum:

[rpietila]

I can convert your spreadsheet to a code and implement it (python, C++...) for 0.06BTC (max 10 lines)
I can also implement a small company network with all needed windows server (2012 optional) AD, DHCP, DNS all included for 6 BTC
I can set up your blog/site based on woomerce/wordpress from scratch and admin it for one month for 6BTC
I can..... do real fucking job for 6BTC that can change the way you do things 

Just today I have ordered web hosting for 0.3BTC/yr, hotel reservation system for 10BTC+10BTC/yr, webpages for 10BTC, but some of the above services I still need - what a shame that you are such a difficult person    

[gentlemand]

I'm willing to draw an MS paint picture of a friendly spider for everyone for FREE.

[mmitech]

I can convert your spreadsheet to a code and implement it (python, C++...) for 0.06BTC (max 10 lines)
I can also implement a small company network with all needed windows server (2012 optional) AD, DHCP, DNS all included for 6 BTC
I can set up your blog/site based on woomerce/wordpress from scratch and admin it for one month for 6BTC
I can..... do real fucking job for 6BTC that can change the way you do things 

Just today I have ordered web hosting for 0.3BTC/yr, hotel reservation system for 10BTC+10BTC/yr, webpages for 10BTC, but some of the above services I still need - what a shame that you are such a difficult person    

you think of me as difficult I think of my self as a correct person, you think I do this for fun but I think I do it to spread awareness.... 

[rpietila]

Never underestimate the lucrativeness of scamming fools.

Who is being scammed in this thread that shows very interesting visions of Bitcoin price development for all who care to see?

[Bitcoin_is_here_to_stay]

i'll bid 2 btc and just give out the 200,000BTC to there rightful owners

everyone cool with a 10K BTC un-goxing service fee??

where do i bid?

I bid 10 BTC to take over the remaining 200,000 BTC. Seems legit

The surprising part for me is that victims's lawyers support it. Do they know something we do not? Or have not learnt their lesson yet?

Er... I am a victim, and I don't.  Nor does my lawyer.  Does anyone know anyone who was actually consulted?  

Edit: OK, not a massive loss, but a victim nonetheless.

The news - on coin desk and such - make it sound as if there is an international coalition of Mt. Gox. victims who thinks this taking over is best for them.

But perhaps a couple of biggest holders want to divide these 200,000 BTC among them, at the cost of smaller holders like you ... Would be sad but at least would make some sense. I cannot make my mind around Gox victims suddenly wanting to invest in Mt. Gox instead of getting their portion of newly found 200,000 BTC. Settling with Gox's second in command before any real investigation started is a strange move, too

whats attractive about it is that they can recover all their lost funds over a few years

but its really risky, and if the guys plan is to reuse mtgox code and patch the security hole, then this WILL end in a GOXING

How? Recover 650,000 BTC from trading fees? Whou would trade at Mt. Gox after all this stuff? And pay high trading fees? The only reasonable (and legal) business model would be to sell Mt Gox software without disclosing who wrote it ... The problem is that the software is a mess similar to Mt Gox, so also worth nothing

[windjc]

I'm willing to draw an MS paint picture of a friendly spider for everyone for FREE.

I want this.