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[mmitech]

I can convert your spreadsheet to a code and implement it (python, C++...) for 0.06BTC (max 10 lines)
I can also implement a small company network with all needed windows server (2012 optional) AD, DHCP, DNS all included for 6 BTC
I can set up your blog/site based on woomerce/wordpress from scratch and admin it for one month for 6BTC
I can..... do real fucking job for 6BTC that can change the way you do things 

Just today I have ordered web hosting for 0.3BTC/yr, hotel reservation system for 10BTC+10BTC/yr, webpages for 10BTC, but some of the above services I still need - what a shame that you are such a difficult person    

you think of me as difficult I think of my self as a correct person, you think I do this for fun but I think I do it to spread awareness.... 

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[rpietila]

Never underestimate the lucrativeness of scamming fools.

Who is being scammed in this thread that shows very interesting visions of Bitcoin price development for all who care to see?

[Bitcoin_is_here_to_stay]

i'll bid 2 btc and just give out the 200,000BTC to there rightful owners

everyone cool with a 10K BTC un-goxing service fee??

where do i bid?

I bid 10 BTC to take over the remaining 200,000 BTC. Seems legit

The surprising part for me is that victims's lawyers support it. Do they know something we do not? Or have not learnt their lesson yet?

Er... I am a victim, and I don't.  Nor does my lawyer.  Does anyone know anyone who was actually consulted?  

Edit: OK, not a massive loss, but a victim nonetheless.

The news - on coin desk and such - make it sound as if there is an international coalition of Mt. Gox. victims who thinks this taking over is best for them.

But perhaps a couple of biggest holders want to divide these 200,000 BTC among them, at the cost of smaller holders like you ... Would be sad but at least would make some sense. I cannot make my mind around Gox victims suddenly wanting to invest in Mt. Gox instead of getting their portion of newly found 200,000 BTC. Settling with Gox's second in command before any real investigation started is a strange move, too

whats attractive about it is that they can recover all their lost funds over a few years

but its really risky, and if the guys plan is to reuse mtgox code and patch the security hole, then this WILL end in a GOXING

How? Recover 650,000 BTC from trading fees? Whou would trade at Mt. Gox after all this stuff? And pay high trading fees? The only reasonable (and legal) business model would be to sell Mt Gox software without disclosing who wrote it ... The problem is that the software is a mess similar to Mt Gox, so also worth nothing

[windjc]

I'm willing to draw an MS paint picture of a friendly spider for everyone for FREE.

I want this.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[adamstgBit]

rpietila is alright in my book...

and as far as i can tell his trading methods are top notch.

if really want to buy this kind of stuff, rpietila is probably the best source  

[JayJuanGee]

You should head into the #mtgox-talk irc channel to find out all the details of sunlot and their plans. It stinks to be honest.

They also want to spend $10mm on the investigation of the 'theft'.

Why does the sunlot plan stink b/c 1) past customers are going to get scammed, 2) Mark Karples Et al will NOT be held to justice, 3) sunlot is going to run off with GOX assets without bringing any value, and/or 4) some other reason?

 Does it stink worse than liquidation? 

 Is there a better plan?

[boumalo]

I am very puzzled that there is a company willing to take over Mt. Gox. Mt Gox's assets are MINUS 650,000 BTC and perhaps MINUS 20-50 millions $. Their only other asset is their "reputation".

Can anybody sane be willing to pay 650,000 BTC for Karpeles exchange's reputation of being scammers and possibly thiefs? Or their buggy, obsolete software without even production version?

They do not intend to assume that 650'000 BTC debt.   Check those threads.

No they are not

And btw I hope the btc found will be given back in their btc form, not exchanged for fiat

[rpietila]

you think of me as difficult I think of my self as a correct person, you think I do this for fun but I think I do it to spread awareness.... 

Okay since we both want awareness, let's not generate it by strife (unless absolutely necessary).

For several months I haven't cared about making money. But now the price is going so low that it soon makes sense to earn something because it will have a noticeable impact in my finances. So I am setting up the trading desk that I abandoned in February. It was not my idea to sell the sheet, as you can see someone asked me.

[Mervyn_Pumpkinhead]

Never underestimate the lucrativeness of scamming fools.

Who is being scammed in this thread that shows very interesting visions of Bitcoin price development for all who care to see?

Maybe it is interesting to some, but not so interesting to me.
I just hope that the prize pot won't get "lost" again. Like the coins that you allegedly lost by taking an unsecured laptop to an sauna party, where it got stolen.

[gentlemand]

I'm willing to draw an MS paint picture of a friendly spider for everyone for FREE.

I want this.

Your wish is my command

[octaft]

I'm willing to draw an MS paint picture of a friendly spider for everyone for FREE.

I want this.

Your wish is my command

Wow, I guess you really do get what you pay for.

[gentlemand]

But the legs are (sort of) in the right place, it's smiling and there's a bonus BTC

I've given all I can.

[octaft]

But the legs are (sort of) in the right place, it's smiling and there's a bonus BTC

I've given all I can.

Well you definitely got the friendly part down at least.

[edwardspitz]

I'm willing to draw an MS paint picture of a friendly spider for everyone for FREE.

I want this.

Your wish is my command

Wow, I guess you really do get what you pay for.

He could have drawn a spider with 6 legs but he drew one with 8 legs. It is good value in my opinion. I like it.

[oda.krell]

I'm willing to draw an MS paint picture of a friendly spider for everyone for FREE.

I want this.

Your wish is my command

Wow, I guess you really do get what you pay for.

He could have drawn a spider with 6 legs but he drew one with 8 legs. It is good value in my opinion. I like it.

I see what you did there *wink*

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[kurious]

i'll bid 2 btc and just give out the 200,000BTC to there rightful owners

everyone cool with a 10K BTC un-goxing service fee??

where do i bid?

I bid 10 BTC to take over the remaining 200,000 BTC. Seems legit

The surprising part for me is that victims's lawyers support it. Do they know something we do not? Or have not learnt their lesson yet?

Er... I am a victim, and I don't.  Nor does my lawyer.  Does anyone know anyone who was actually consulted?  

Edit: OK, not a massive loss, but a victim nonetheless.

The news - on coin desk and such - make it sound as if there is an international coalition of Mt. Gox. victims who thinks this taking over is best for them.

But perhaps a couple of biggest holders want to divide these 200,000 BTC among them, at the cost of smaller holders like you ... Would be sad but at least would make some sense. I cannot make my mind around Gox victims suddenly wanting to invest in Mt. Gox instead of getting their portion of newly found 200,000 BTC. Settling with Gox's second in command before any real investigation started is a strange move, too

Strange move?  Not really - he will be relieved and grateful not to be in the dock for anything and he knows where the bodies are buried and maybe even how to dig them up.

Pay him handsomely on condition he will help you lock the door once you're in and tell you what went on and how things are really done  Then your 'investigation' will announce whatever it suits you to reveal (after the money has been spent):

"We are sorry to announce it really seems things are much worse than we thought, our investigations at vast expense seem to have discovered it will take a lot longer to sort this out and it is unlikely much will be left to pay out for the time being, and the new exchange launch will be delayed.  However, we will strive to find the rest of the money.  We promise.  

By the way, if anyone knows where any more coins are, please do let us know"

[Bitcoin_is_here_to_stay]

I'm willing to draw an MS paint picture of a friendly spider for everyone for FREE.

If you are serious - I know a lil' boy who loves spiders - so please do

[Bitcoin_is_here_to_stay]

i'll bid 2 btc and just give out the 200,000BTC to there rightful owners

everyone cool with a 10K BTC un-goxing service fee??

where do i bid?

I bid 10 BTC to take over the remaining 200,000 BTC. Seems legit

The surprising part for me is that victims's lawyers support it. Do they know something we do not? Or have not learnt their lesson yet?

Er... I am a victim, and I don't.  Nor does my lawyer.  Does anyone know anyone who was actually consulted?  

Edit: OK, not a massive loss, but a victim nonetheless.

The news - on coin desk and such - make it sound as if there is an international coalition of Mt. Gox. victims who thinks this taking over is best for them.

But perhaps a couple of biggest holders want to divide these 200,000 BTC among them, at the cost of smaller holders like you ... Would be sad but at least would make some sense. I cannot make my mind around Gox victims suddenly wanting to invest in Mt. Gox instead of getting their portion of newly found 200,000 BTC. Settling with Gox's second in command before any real investigation started is a strange move, too

Strange move?  Not really - he will be relieved and grateful not to be in the dock for anything and he knows where the bodies are buried and maybe even how to dig them up.

Pay him handsomely on condition he will help you lock the door once you're in and tell you what went on and how things are really done  Then your 'investigation' will announce whatever it suits you to reveal (after the money has been spent):

"We are sorry to announce it really seems things are much worse than we thought, our investigations at vast expense seem to have discovered it will take a lot longer to sort this out and it is unlikely much will be left to pay out for the time being, and the new exchange launch will be delayed.  However, we will strive to find the rest of the money.  We promise.  

By the way, if anyone knows where any more coins are, please do let us know"

Yeah, I understand that the hope is that he will help to prosecute Karpeles - but what if he was his partner? It will be hilarious actually if they will be no evidence of Karpeles wrongdoing, only against this G G-B guy - and buy settling with them they will get away with stealing people money as there will be no evidence against Karpeles and they are just making a deal not to prosecute GGB.