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December 11, 2014, 12:40:21 AM

And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.
And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
  


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December 11, 2014, 12:42:09 AM

nice little buy a few seconds ago on finex

stamps reacting well to this little drop

 price is low, sentiment is down, NotLambchop is really good at trolling, ladies it might be time to face reality...



Reality of what ?  Shocked



348 support has just become resistance  Cry

But dude.  on the 21st Nov you wrote

max leveraged short now?

And it rallied pretty hard. Watch this space...

this time its different
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December 11, 2014, 12:44:34 AM

Currency is backed by assets, at least my currency is (GBP).  our QE was backed by the purchase of assets.  When called to pay debts they are settled in gold.

Dude, England left the gold standard in 1931. That's 40 years before the USA.

The gold standard was the pegging of gold to currency.  Not the backing of currency with assets gold or otherwise.

It's all smoke and mirrors jonoiv - the BOE, ECB, and FED's assets are virtually worthless. The whole thing only continues because if the music stops, there are no chairs at all ... so everyone keeps standing and dancing and will do for as long as they can

The assets may be virtually worthless, but they are still worth more then the paper used to buy them.
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December 11, 2014, 12:45:13 AM

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December 11, 2014, 12:46:38 AM

I honestly feel we will slide with oil,
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December 11, 2014, 12:47:09 AM

can we have a special moment of silence for MTGOX and my bitcoins that are lost forever

The liquidation of MtGOX is still going on, and you should eventually get something back, perhaps by the end of 2015.  Maybe 20% of what you had.

The trustee appointed by the bankruptcy judge is still trying to collect the assets of the failed company, trying to decipher its accounting, and pondering how it will gather the claims of former clients.  The latter should happen in May 2015. Then thee trustee will have until September 2015 to validate the claims, and then it should distribute the assets proportionally to the claims.
 
It is not clear what amount each former client will be able to claim as his loss.  The account balances at the time of the collapse may be unusable, for several reasons, including the fact that the database that the trustee got has been found to be inconsistent.  Also, it is not clear whether it is leaglly possible for the trustee to distribute the remaining 220'000 bitcoins as bitcoins; he may have to auction them, and distribute the yen instead.

It seems that the usual procedure in bankruptcies of this kind (e.g., in the Madoff ponzi) is to ignore the account balances provided by the company, and instead consider how much money each client deposited, minus how much he has withdrawn.

If the MtGOX trustee chooses (or is required by law) to use this method, then bitcoin deposits and withdrawals would be converted to yen according to the BTC price at the time of the deposit or withdrawal. 

Obviously, the figure obtained by this method can be totally different from the client's final account balance.   Unfortunately the victims do not seem to realize that this is the most important question they shoudl ask the trustee.  Whether the refunds will be in BTC or JPY is irrelevant in comparison.

Clients would have to identify themselves in order to get refunds.  It is not known how many former clients will give up and fail to file a claim.  It is not known whether any of the accounts in the database are fake, with virtual balances, created only to get a slice of the bankruptcy refunds; or whether they belong to former management (which, by law, should not receive any proceeds from the liquidation).  So it is impossibe to say how much each client will receive in the end.
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December 11, 2014, 12:48:36 AM

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can we have a special moment of silence for MTGOX and my bitcoins that are lost forever

take your lumps and move on ... you trusted a third party and lost, boo-hoo.

Did you read the bitcoin white-paper, first line in the abstract spells it out, bitcoin is a technology to eliminate third-party trust ... and yet here you are crying on the bitcoin forum about being betrayed by a third party who you trusted with your bitcoins ... do people who get killed in a car for driving badly blame the car or the driver (or the road in your case)? Misusing a technology and blaming the technology is on the level of logic of monkeys and savages
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December 11, 2014, 12:49:10 AM

Anyone ever read the Intelligent Investor by Graham (with additions from W. Buffet and Zweig)? I feel although most of us are very emotional investors.

I haven't read the whole book yet, but was wondering what you guys think about that. I'd bet a lot of people are selling in this bear market (obvious?) as an emotional response to market movement.

I understand that shorting can definitely make a profit in bear markets, but the actual sellers have to either be emotional or they lost confidence in bitcoins fundamentals?

Just thinking out loud here Tongue
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December 11, 2014, 12:50:18 AM

can we have a special moment of silence for MTGOX and my bitcoins that are lost forever

HuhHuhHuhHuh

I'm always amazed by how fast we all just turned our heads from that debacle... there is no question in my mind this market HAS HAD TO FEEL THE IMPACT of MTGox, and we are feeling it... this will last a considerable amount of time.. you cant just compare 2009 / 2010 to today without taking a look at that and realising there will be an ongoing intangible impact when comparing today's data to historical data etc...

fucking Mark Karpelese!

It is sad about your loss, but for at least six months lots of us on bct were telling (yelling at...) people they should get their money off mtgox, from the time the fiat withdrawal problems first started.
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December 11, 2014, 12:53:36 AM

OT, but maybe interesting for some of you: The Pirate Bay SUNK
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December 11, 2014, 12:55:17 AM


this time its different

Why?  because of the auction ?
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December 11, 2014, 12:59:30 AM

Is it, gentlemen?
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December 11, 2014, 01:00:46 AM


Explanation
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December 11, 2014, 01:01:15 AM

trolls and usual suspects seem to be out in force for the dump attempt below 350 ... someone's getting desperate to get in cheaper.
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December 11, 2014, 01:02:10 AM


Is this ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md4cPHFBeiU&feature=youtu.be

I hope nanobrain and BitChick are not around !!  Tongue
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December 11, 2014, 01:08:31 AM


Looks a bit like Gentle-Ben, he was a bear y'know.
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December 11, 2014, 01:15:05 AM


tinkerbell makes me always smile. the price also  Grin Grin

this is bullish yaddayadda
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December 11, 2014, 01:23:20 AM

Regardless of how bearish you all might feel, I'm pretty confident Bitcoin will stay above 1 billion USD market cap.

lol

Classic Blitz.
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December 11, 2014, 01:23:41 AM

Olá, amigos boa noite! estava lendo esse topico sobre a cotação do Bitcoin e gostaria de saber se alguém sabe alguma site para comparar valores de mineração em nuvens?

https://static.cointellect.com/images/design/programm_download.png
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December 11, 2014, 01:25:38 AM


Amazing!
"After civil movement everyone was free, then i gave every girl the right to suck my dee".

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