AMD Ryzen hashrate?

[Set Ready Go]

If we just look at the l3 cache then we can utilize  all 16 threads for the new  Ryzen 7 3700x.

Just this is a big deal,  means we can go from  8 threads mining to all 16 threads eg we  will get "same" hashrates as the threadripper = 1khs+
Then ofcourse we have the higher clocks , the ipc  and all that good stuff. All this in a 65w TDP cpu.

Also we have monero and the RandomX  alghorithm  which sure will be inzane for these cpus.
Im hyped!

With all its advantages, the price is expected $399
Or 4,44 XMR
How long will it take him to mining so much monero?
How justified is buying processors specifically for mining?
In order to make money, it is better to buy monero or bitcoin for this money right away?
This is a more win-win option.

its 329 USD for the 3700x




Ofcourse you can mine alot of other coins then just monero with ur cpu, the thing with cpu is that you need one for your rig so why not use it for mining..

But if we go RandomX  as in monero update you can see this will be godlike for cpus.


And your cpu will have a good chance to pay for itself rather then a cheap celeron/pentium.

[1714200869]

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[joblo]

If we just look at the l3 cache then we can utilize  all 16 threads for the new  Ryzen 7 3700x.

Looks good for cryptonight. The're also releasing a Ryzen 9 series with up to 16 cores, 32 threads and
72 MB cache, enough to run a full 32 threads of cryptonight with room to spare.
The R9 still uses 2 channel memory where the next bottleneck is. Need Threadripper to get 4 channels.

Hoping for some AVX2 improvements but haven't heard of any.

The 3000G series is an interesting curiosity, boasting the "most powerful graphics" on a desktop CPU.
assuming it's Radeon based it should be possible to mine with it. It might be a good choice for a GPU
rig to add a little extra hash for about the same price as an equivalent Intel CPU.

From a feature perspective AMD already beat Intel with SHA on the first gen Ryzens, and they closed
the gap with the addition of AVX2 capability if not AVX2 performance.

AMD caught up with Intel with gen1 Ryzen and is now pulling ahead while Intel continues delay its
next generation architecture, which includes AVX512,  and instead puts out refresh after refresh
of Skylake.

I thought Intel would wake up with Ryzen gen1 but their only response was to add a couple of cores
to the latest Skylake refresh and call it Coffeelake.

It's nice to see AMD giving Intel a good run but I wish intel would get their heads back into the race.

[Iamtutut]

I have a 2400G, don't expect to "GPU" mine with, even with the 3400G (It's Vega based with 11CU) which is a Zen+ with 200 or 300 more MHz than the 2400G. I still like the 2400G because I can browse the internet, or watch a 1080P video while CPU and GPU mining with my RX574s.
72MB cache will be available on the 3900X, I don't think the 3950X is worth for mining, huge price gap for 4C/8T more.

[Set Ready Go]

I have a 2400G, don't expect to "GPU" mine with, even with the 3400G (It's Vega based with 11CU) which is a Zen+ with 200 or 300 more MHz than the 2400G. I still like the 2400G because I can browse the internet, or watch a 1080P video while CPU and GPU mining with my RX574s.
72MB cache will be available on the 3900X, I don't think the 3950X is worth for mining, huge price gap for 4C/8T more.

Yea the 3950x might not  have best ratio for mining but ofcourse if you want it for rendering your blurays etc  then its a completely diffrent story.

ill link the pictures instead because the pictures wont display.


https://imgur.com/a/Ld1WgRO


Thats for the RandomX  algo , ryzen 7 1700 really good.

[Iamtutut]

Depending on mobos prices, 3900X coud be my next CPU.

[Set Ready Go]

Apparently the new Gigabyte mid tier x570 will be 250 ish usd so we can expect pretty high prices for the new moteboards, unless need the new features might be a idea get a good x470.
The new generation:

16-core Ryzen 9 3950X will be priced 749  USD
12-core Ryzen 9 3900X will be priced 499 USD
8-core Ryzen 7 3800X will be priced 399 USD
8-core Ryzen 7 3700X will be priced 329 USD
6-core Ryzen 5 3600X will be priced 249 USD
6-core Ryzen 5 3600 will be priced 199 USD

[Iamtutut]

Mobo + CPU + RAM is set for 500$ to 1500$.

At current crypto prices, it's not worth to buy for mining. In a bull market, it's another story.

[Michail9090]

If we just look at the l3 cache then we can utilize  all 16 threads for the new  Ryzen 7 3700x.

Just this is a big deal,  means we can go from  8 threads mining to all 16 threads eg we  will get "same" hashrates as the threadripper = 1khs+
Then ofcourse we have the higher clocks , the ipc  and all that good stuff. All this in a 65w TDP cpu.

Also we have monero and the RandomX  alghorithm  which sure will be inzane for these cpus.
Im hyped!

I don't know what numbers you're talking about. but I do know that the CPU ryzen obviously going to scale to 16 threads when mining its 65W.  now even the top intel is not profitable to mine

[Psynthax]

If we just look at the l3 cache then we can utilize  all 16 threads for the new  Ryzen 7 3700x.

Just this is a big deal,  means we can go from  8 threads mining to all 16 threads eg we  will get "same" hashrates as the threadripper = 1khs+
Then ofcourse we have the higher clocks , the ipc  and all that good stuff. All this in a 65w TDP cpu.

Also we have monero and the RandomX  alghorithm  which sure will be inzane for these cpus.
Im hyped!

I don't know what numbers you're talking about. but I do know that the CPU ryzen obviously going to scale to 16 threads when mining its 65W.  now even the top intel is not profitable to mine

This time only xeon series that can give a few bucks in a day, as far as i know only a high tier of AMD CPU like opteron and epic that can give a few bucks like xeon. Any series below than what i have mentioned will give nothing. I think everybody must forget to put a lot of expectation from CPU mining.

[Dowper_]

I will need a new PC anyway, why not make some money from it and mine with it while I am not using it?

[joblo]

This time only xeon series that can give a few bucks in a day, as far as i know only a high tier of AMD CPU like opteron and epic that can give a few bucks like xeon. Any series below than what i have mentioned will give nothing. I think everybody must forget to put a lot of expectation from CPU mining.

Can't agree. Desktop CPUs are the way to go because of price. There is a cost jump from core to coreX and again from corex
to Xeon without any sigificant inprovement for that jump. The same with AMD Ryzen, threadripper, Epyc.

More threads, higher clocks, bigger cache seem to take priority over the higher main memory bandwidth of coreX.

The only thing is cooling. Destop CPUs (and their stock coolers) are not designed to run pegged 24/7.
Xeons are designed with much higher thermal headroom and have much slower clocks which mekes
less profitable for thier price. The used Xeon market is interesting when companies upgrade and gey rid
of their old stock cheap.

Ryzen is looking even better and I'm getting less interested in Cannonlake, even though it will have AVX512.
It looks like the steam is running out of the SIMD battle. There doesn't seem to be much demand for AVX512.
And that statement may have contradicted what I just said in the previous paragraph. AVX512 may make
Xeons more attractive to miners.

[Set Ready Go]

This time only xeon series that can give a few bucks in a day, as far as i know only a high tier of AMD CPU like opteron and epic that can give a few bucks like xeon. Any series below than what i have mentioned will give nothing. I think everybody must forget to put a lot of expectation from CPU mining.

Can't agree. Desktop CPUs are the way to go because of price. There is a cost jump from core to coreX and again from corex
to Xeon without any sigificant inprovement for that jump. The same with AMD Ryzen, threadripper, Epyc.

More threads, higher clocks, bigger cache seem to take priority over the higher main memory bandwidth of coreX.

The only thing is cooling. Destop CPUs (and their stock coolers) are not designed to run pegged 24/7.
Xeons are designed with much higher thermal headroom and have much slower clocks which mekes
less profitable for thier price. The used Xeon market is interesting when companies upgrade and gey rid
of their old stock cheap.

Ryzen is looking even better and I'm getting less interested in Cannonlake, even though it will have AVX512.
It looks like the steam is running out of the SIMD battle. There doesn't seem to be much demand for AVX512.
And that statement may have contradicted what I just said in the previous paragraph. AVX512 may make
Xeons more attractive to miners.

Yea Ryzen just kicks ass all over the table... Cores/threads and for cryptonight algos it just blows away competition, not to mention this 3rd gen we will get to play with double the threads for mining and decent cooler included and all!

With randomX happening well ryzen got the brightest of futures.

[ivan1975]

16-core Ryzen 9 3950X will be priced 749  USD
12-core Ryzen 9 3900X will be priced 499 USD
8-core Ryzen 7 3800X will be priced 399 USD
8-core Ryzen 7 3700X will be priced 329 USD
6-core Ryzen 5 3600X will be priced 249 USD
6-core Ryzen 5 3600 will be priced 199 USD[/b]

Which CPU is better to buy from this list, If choose in terms price / hashrate?

[Set Ready Go]

16-core Ryzen 9 3950X will be priced 749  USD
12-core Ryzen 9 3900X will be priced 499 USD
8-core Ryzen 7 3800X will be priced 399 USD
8-core Ryzen 7 3700X will be priced 329 USD
6-core Ryzen 5 3600X will be priced 249 USD
6-core Ryzen 5 3600 will be priced 199 USD[/b]

Which CPU is better to buy from this list, If choose in terms price / hashrate?

It depends on  which algo you gonna mine i suppose.  But lets say you gonna mine any of the cryptonight algos.

Then you could get any of the Ryzen 5 3600 , Ryzen 7 3700X, Ryzen 9 3950X.

Ryzen 5 = 12 threads
Ryzen 7 = 16 threads
Ryzen 9 = 32 threads

So the only one thats not recommended  would be 3800x, 3600x and thats because they got cheaper in same  category.

Personally im gonna get a  Ryzen 3700x  so i can max out the l3 cache and i cant afford the 16 core one.     

[GREENch]

I think we should not wait for cosmic results. The Ryzen 7 3700X, AMD claims, is 18% faster than the 2700X model in multithreaded computing and 28% faster than the Intel Corei7-9700K.
If the purchase of a new processor from AMD due to the need to work, then Yes - you can combine the work and recoup some of the costs of the processor.

[Dowper_]

16-core Ryzen 9 3950X will be priced 749  USD
12-core Ryzen 9 3900X will be priced 499 USD
8-core Ryzen 7 3800X will be priced 399 USD
8-core Ryzen 7 3700X will be priced 329 USD
6-core Ryzen 5 3600X will be priced 249 USD
6-core Ryzen 5 3600 will be priced 199 USD[/b]

Which CPU is better to buy from this list, If choose in terms price / hashrate?

16-core Ryzen 9 3950X will be priced 749 USD - $46.81 per core
12-core Ryzen 9 3900X will be priced 499 USD - $41.58 per core
8-core Ryzen 7 3800X will be priced 399 USD - $49.88 per core
8-core Ryzen 7 3700X will be priced 329 USD - $41.13 per core
6-core Ryzen 5 3600X will be priced 249 USD - $41.50 per core
6-core Ryzen 5 3600 will be priced 199 USD - $33.17 per core

So, the best buy for the money apparantly is Ryzen 5 3600, if you want more cores - Ryzen 7 3700X or Ryzen 9 3900X. The worst buy is Ryzen 7 3800X, followed by Ryzen 9 3950X.

[Galantin]

Ryzen are certainly excellent processors, but better than Intela, nothing is there yet. So it's better to take what is checked. And for budget assemblies there it is already necessary to look for tests in youtube or here on the forum.

[Iamtutut]

Ryzen are certainly excellent processors, but better than Intela, nothing is there yet. So it's better to take what is checked. And for budget assemblies there it is already necessary to look for tests in youtube or here on the forum.

Preliminary benchmarks of Ryzen 3XXX show that they just wreck Intel CPUs.

[Set Ready Go]

When it comes to cryptonight you will want to have 2mb l3 cache per thread  and with new 3000 series we get double from previous ryzens so we can use all the threads on the cpu hopefully..

Ryzen 1st / 2nd we had 16mb l3 cache = 8 threads to use so this new generation will be intresting to see what we can get.
Almost certain will atleast outperform polaris.

[serhanni]

r5 1600                 3800  3466 cl14
 
CN 560H/s
CN Heavy  250 H/s

Hey man, you mind to share what miner you're using and it's configuration?

I'm using xmr-stak, let me put the configs I have for both algos:

Code:

"cpu_threads_conf" :
[
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 1 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 3 },
    { "low_power_mode" : true, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 5 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 7 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 9 },
    { "low_power_mode" : true, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 11 },
],

Try this config:

{ "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 1 }
{ "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 3 }
{ "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 4 }
{ "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 5 }
{ "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 7 }
{ "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 9 }
{ "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 10 }
{ "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 11

Thanks for sharing this. What is your hashrate on cn with these settings? Did you oc'ed your cpu?