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October 12, 2017, 09:23:11 PM
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Really good news... now patience is asked

And what next? why they are silent ? Why do you do snaptchota without having prepared HLM? where is wallet? where is the future?
SPR -80%
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Not surprised...snapshot non sense was a nice excuse to lead to a what 60x pump on SPR. Snapshot completed...90%+ insta drop. Sure the guys behind this turd bought 1000 sats level and insta dumped once the snapshot was done.

Explains the 90%+ drop...that amount of coins dumping is big and the amount of shaved profits selling down to 1000 sats is huge.

At least this wont see the light of Bittrex...belongs on yobit.

Looks like you want to buy HLM cheaply once it start trading in Cryptopia that's why you are complaining and talking it down. You look an intelligent person, I don't blame you, I want to buy cheap HLM as well... So good luck.

Not taking down or complaining about it. Describing what I see, this reminds me of Zclassic and Zen snapshot.  I honestly won't be touching HLM or SPR for that matter. Not interested in MN coins anymore.
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October 12, 2017, 09:29:59 PM
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Anyone know what approx. masternode payouts will be?

If block time is approx 2.5 minutes at 1440 mins per day, that's about 576 blocks per day on average...

So... 576 x .45 (masternode's cut) = 259.2 blocks per day for masternodes...

So let's say we quickly get 1000 masternodes on the network, that'll be... 259.2 / 1000 = .2592 (~.25)

So that would mean a masternode payout approximate every 4 days or so, taking into account luck/law of averages? Only question is, how many Helium per block?

Let me know if I'm doing the math right...

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October 12, 2017, 09:45:53 PM
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Anyone know what approx. masternode payouts will be?

If block time is approx 2.5 minutes at 1440 mins per day, that's about 576 blocks per day on average...

So... 576 x .45 (masternode's cut) = 259.2 blocks per day for masternodes...

So let's say we quickly get 1000 masternodes on the network, that'll be... 259.2 / 1000 = .2592 (~.25)

So that would mean a masternode payout approximate every 4 days or so, taking into account luck/law of averages? Only question is, how many Helium per block?

Let me know if I'm doing the math right...

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October 12, 2017, 09:51:11 PM
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Really good news... now patience is asked

And what next? why they are silent ? Why do you do snaptchota without having prepared HLM? where is wallet? where is the future?
SPR -80%
HLM No start

Not very professional developers

Not surprised...snapshot non sense was a nice excuse to lead to a what 60x pump on SPR. Snapshot completed...90%+ insta drop. Sure the guys behind this turd bought 1000 sats level and insta dumped once the snapshot was done.

Explains the 90%+ drop...that amount of coins dumping is big and the amount of shaved profits selling down to 1000 sats is huge.

At least this wont see the light of Bittrex...belongs on yobit.

Looks like you want to buy HLM cheaply once it start trading in Cryptopia that's why you are complaining and talking it down. You look an intelligent person, I don't blame you, I want to buy cheap HLM as well... So good luck.

Not taking down or complaining about it. Describing what I see, this reminds me of Zclassic and Zen snapshot.  I honestly won't be touching HLM or SPR for that matter. Not interested in MN coins anymore.

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October 12, 2017, 11:12:38 PM
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Look, I agree that it's mostly users' fault if they left coins on BitTrex. The changes in expectations for HLM were somewhat fast paced once we reached late Sept, but if you had been following this project at all it was pretty apparent, IMO, that you'd need to check in every few days to keep up. It was also very apparent that the community was getting impatient and wanted and asked for things to hurry up already. The snapshot was originally supposed to happen August 1st! Furthermore, it was parroted over, and over, and over - that if you didn't want to risk having to pay attention to exchanges, you should move your coins to an address that you control the private key for - ie, your SPR wallet. Anybody who did that and "missed" all the news of Trex or Cryptopia is fine. This path was suggested and repeated pretty much every day in this thread, for months. It was also never once confirmed that Trex was participating - that was all speculation! So if you were lazy - either by not wanting to check this thread/Slack regularly, or by not taking the advice of what to do if you didn't want to pay such close attention (move to wallet), that's not HLM's fault that you opted out of both.

That being said, if Trex starts getting inundated with SPR->HLM crybabies, it will possibly undermine HLM's chances of being listed on Trex. I hope the dev team carefully considers this possibility and finds some way to quell the victims of laziness if their voices continue to rise.





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excellent post sir/madam, thank you ...and I 2nd the motion (concur)

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October 13, 2017, 02:16:51 AM
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Really good news... now patience is asked

And what next? why they are silent ? Why do you do snaptchota without having prepared HLM? where is wallet? where is the future?
SPR -80%
HLM No start

Not very professional developers

Not surprised...snapshot non sense was a nice excuse to lead to a what 60x pump on SPR. Snapshot completed...90%+ insta drop. Sure the guys behind this turd bought 1000 sats level and insta dumped once the snapshot was done.

Explains the 90%+ drop...that amount of coins dumping is big and the amount of shaved profits selling down to 1000 sats is huge.

At least this wont see the light of Bittrex...belongs on yobit.
Not even 1 week past snapshot and people are already impatient. For SPR, it was 2+ years of "stay tuned", anyone that expect it to worth more than 5k sat must be very very lazy in research and reading. Lazy people loss money. But hey, without lazy people I wont be able to sell at 15k-18k sat when I value SPR only at 1k sat.
Looks like you want to buy HLM cheaply once it start trading in Cryptopia that's why you are complaining and talking it down. You look an intelligent person, I don't blame you, I want to buy cheap HLM as well... So good luck.

Not taking down or complaining about it. Describing what I see, this reminds me of Zclassic and Zen snapshot.  I honestly won't be touching HLM or SPR for that matter. Not interested in MN coins anymore.
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October 13, 2017, 02:46:13 AM
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Hlm will be 1$ soon

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October 13, 2017, 05:02:08 AM
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$1? It better be worth way more than a fucking dollar for this bullshit to have been worth it.
SPR is down from 64k sats to 9k as of right now. Most people didn't get SPR at 1k sats or even 5k. They got it at 30k or 50k. Unless HLM is valued more than what SPR was at its peak, this bullshit will not have been worth it.
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October 13, 2017, 05:38:59 AM
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Bittrex could not aford to NOT list Helium. There, you heard it here first.

i prefer cryptopia they don't have the maximum on the withdrawals like bittrex, unless you verify your identity and i don't like that in crypto, i think bittrex will list HLM anyway this coin gonna be big
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October 13, 2017, 05:39:59 AM
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$1? It better be worth way more than a fucking dollar for this bullshit to have been worth it.
SPR is down from 64k sats to 9k as of right now. Most people didn't get SPR at 1k sats or even 5k. They got it at 30k or 50k. Unless HLM is valued more than what SPR was at its peak, this bullshit will not have been worth it.

It will be. Remember, this is essentially "DASH Plus". It has a lot more going for it than the other crappy masternode coins. I'm pretty certain this will be a decent coin, even if it takes a little time to get there.

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October 13, 2017, 06:13:37 AM
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Hlm will be 1$ soon

I hope so. I wouldn't mind if HLM stays around $1 for a week before gaining significantly. That would be a perfect week for everyone to join and/or increase their holdings before the pump.

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October 13, 2017, 06:26:30 AM
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Im super excited to see helium blow up!  Im sure alot of miners holding on to x11 mining hardware is feeling the same way as i am.
I see the community for this coin and also i  the slack channel. Seems like a great and dedicated community for helium! Keep up the good work devs. And hope helium blows up! All us miners are looking forward to securing the network with our hardware and gaining some helium coins.
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October 13, 2017, 06:44:03 AM
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Hi ladies and gents,
has anyone tried contacting Bittrex yet in the matter of getting Helium for Spreads that were left there?

I did and have gotten no response from them.  Doesn't seem like they're going to go through the extra trouble of sorting this out in order to fix the Helium teams oversight.  I'm still shocked at how this whole thing was all handled. 

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October 13, 2017, 07:07:29 AM
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Hlm will be 1$ soon

At The snapshot date , the price of spr is more than 2$ So hlm price could be in that price
or we can split that price a half for spr an a half for hlm
So at the beginning helium price could be at 1$ even more

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October 13, 2017, 07:07:44 AM
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Hi ladies and gents,
has anyone tried contacting Bittrex yet in the matter of getting Helium for Spreads that were left there?

I did and have gotten no response from them.  Doesn't seem like they're going to go through the extra trouble of sorting this out in order to fix the Helium teams oversight.  I'm still shocked at how this whole thing was all handled. 


What was the HLM's teams oversight?
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October 13, 2017, 08:02:25 AM
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Hlm will be 1$ soon
I value HLM at 20% of DASH when launch. Same as BCH to BTC.
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October 13, 2017, 08:48:50 AM
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Hlm will be 1$ soon
I value HLM at 20% of DASH when launch. Same as BCH to BTC.

Haha, dream on...
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October 13, 2017, 10:31:21 AM
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Anyone know what approx. masternode payouts will be?

If block time is approx 2.5 minutes at 1440 mins per day, that's about 576 blocks per day on average...

So... 576 x .45 (masternode's cut) = 259.2 blocks per day for masternodes...

So let's say we quickly get 1000 masternodes on the network, that'll be... 259.2 / 1000 = .2592 (~.25)

So that would mean a masternode payout approximate every 4 days or so, taking into account luck/law of averages? Only question is, how many Helium per block?

Let me know if I'm doing the math right...

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Using these figures (assuming that the '4' from detectiveduck refers to the Helium rewarded per block), I make it a little over two and a half years to make back your investment if HLM is at the same price as you paid for each 1000 SPR.  Obviously this time to 100% return goes down as the price of HLM increases above your initial investment cost, so increases in value is really that is what you should be looking at if you are going to run a HLM masternode.
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October 13, 2017, 04:22:15 PM
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Return all depends on what you paid for your Spread too, though.  I bought very early on in the pre-notice, and even after the BIG price drop was still marginally ahead.

Granted, that was a gamble on a project that had almost no info at the time so could've easily gone either way, at this point the HLM I picked up is just a benefit of the hold.

I guess the moral of the story, is still, buy low, sell high(er).

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October 13, 2017, 04:30:26 PM
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Really good news... now patience is asked

And what next? why they are silent ? Why do you do snaptchota without having prepared HLM? where is wallet? where is the future?
SPR -80%
HLM No start

Not very professional developers

Not surprised...snapshot non sense was a nice excuse to lead to a what 60x pump on SPR. Snapshot completed...90%+ insta drop. Sure the guys behind this turd bought 1000 sats level and insta dumped once the snapshot was done.

Explains the 90%+ drop...that amount of coins dumping is big and the amount of shaved profits selling down to 1000 sats is huge.

At least this wont see the light of Bittrex...belongs on yobit.

Looks like you want to buy HLM cheaply once it start trading in Cryptopia that's why you are complaining and talking it down. You look an intelligent person, I don't blame you, I want to buy cheap HLM as well... So good luck.

Not taking down or complaining about it. Describing what I see, this reminds me of Zclassic and Zen snapshot.  I honestly won't be touching HLM or SPR for that matter. Not interested in MN coins anymore.

The ZCL/ZEN shot definitely had it's issues.  Yet both coins are still in development, ZEN especially, and after the hype ZCL pump, post-snapshot dump, and ZEN fluctuating to find it's baseline, it's been a rather stable market for both.  ZEN still has some serious potential, and ZCL won't vanish like some though, although I doubt it will ever develop much beyond an also ran ZEC code-fork (which is literally what it was meant to be).

That is, unless the ZCL folks make inroads against ZEC.

In this case SPR/HLM is a little different because the projects really aren't related much at all.  Spread was just a low-value low-cap coin that was available at the time to use for a snapshot for HLM (whatever contributing factors the devs had for making money on the switch aside), but the direction HLM is going is radically different than SPR.

Provided SPR has any real direction that is, my sense from holding and following it because of Helium was that it was a single dev project, and that dev was rather uninterested in really pushing the code development anyway.

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