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October 03, 2017, 02:57:37 PM
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Kindly invite all those members who started to send me PMs to stop doing it. TIF Team post is an invitation to a Zoom meeting. If you have anything to say about our announcement, say it here.

I myself like the debates. Every time a debate was launched, something good was borned out of it. People's silent scares me.
As it turns out, I haven't missed meetings nor seminars so far. Silence is not encouraging and doesn't speak well of a community and coin with such a great potential.
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October 03, 2017, 03:03:37 PM
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You don't know what TIF project is? Just click the image below:


Because the community was not receptive enough to our repeated calls to engage in fundraising, we (Gina and I) decided to resign from the positions we have in the Team. We remind you that the team consists of four (4) people.  Our jobs are as follows:
1. Gina Robichaud (gg1965) - cashier
2. Viorel Baldigau (balvio) – organizer and supervisor
3. Williams Amos (Cadwil) and George Coffie (gcoffie7) – supervisors

Our decision is not intended to create malfunctions in the subsequent operation of the Fund; however, it does require the choosing of two other people to replace us.  The transfer of attributions can be done in two ways:
1. We will refund the money back to the investors, and they can decide for themselves what they want to do with it
2. The future cashier will take over the entire fund in a wallet together with the detailed information.
We prefer the first option to avoid any further contradictory discussion. You sent us a sum; and we will return it back to you - end of discussion. You decide what you want to do with it from that point on. That is how we can avoid any further suspicion.

For these reasons mentioned above, we will organize a general meeting on Zoom; and invite the entire community (investors and non-investors) to take part, and decide on the future of this Fund. The meeting is scheduled for Friday, October 6, 6 PM GMT.


Click the image for countdown link

For us, it was a month full of frustrations and misfortunes. We have spent a lot of time and effort to make our community aware of the need for XVP listing on a larger exchange websites. There are about 170 wallets on explorer owning over 10,000 xvp each and 23 investors only. This is inadmissible! Both, myself and Gina, feel that our efforts has gone unrecognized, and unappreciated by many members, therefore, we have decided NOT to continue.

We apologize for any inconvenience.
TIF Team

P.S.1 - Both me and Gina, we maintain our investment in the Fund;
P.S.2 - A small addition in particular: If by October 13, one month since TIF started, we (as a community) does not raise enough funds to be listed on larger exchanges (https://www.bestbitcoinexchange.io/), I, balvio, will have no other option but to stop permanently any further participation and effort to support this coin, with all subsequent consequences. However, I’ll take my projects started to the end.
I am sorry, the Gladiator was defeated!


I agree with you Balvio!  I'm resigning from my post as well with my head held high.  I give us both a pat on the back for a job well done partner!  Grin
You made it sound like a good news Gina. I'm already concerned that we are yet to pursue a single idea to fruition due to a crop of individuals who possibly have no clue where we are headed. Should we remain stunted because of others?
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October 03, 2017, 03:06:18 PM
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Very disappointing news.  I think part of the problem is that the team asking people who already spent a lot of money buying XVP to spend even more money on XVP.  With the price continuously going down and no one able to find big investors, I don't see why anyone would want to continue to pour money into this coin.  At this point someone with deep pockets needs to come along and be a whale, or get this coin on a larger exchange for it to succeed. *or develop some sort of unique feature that will draw attention

I agree, however, if the entire Community is on board, and contribute, maybe we will reach our goal.  Since the value is low right now, XVPs is affordable.  Why not purchase the coins, and invest them into the Investment Funds.  People are mining the coins! Why not invest?  We made two proposals at the 1st meeting, the results were to list our coin on the best top exchanges, and/or implementing Masternodes.   Either proposals require funds.  Any constructive solutions are welcome!
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October 03, 2017, 03:07:54 PM
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Very disappointing news.  I think part of the problem is that the team asking people who already spent a lot of money buying XVP to spend even more money on XVP.  With the price continuously going down and no one able to find big investors, I don't see why anyone would want to continue to pour money into this coin.  At this point someone with deep pockets needs to come along and be a whale, or get this coin on a larger exchange for it to succeed. *or develop some sort of unique feature that will draw attention
Well it turns out this is your first comment on BCT and I fully understand your point. Try to make it to the meeting and perhaps, we'll together, find a solution to the problem. Keep a date.
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October 03, 2017, 03:10:39 PM
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Very disappointing news.  I think part of the problem is that the team asking people who already spent a lot of money buying XVP to spend even more money on XVP.  With the price continuously going down and no one able to find big investors, I don't see why anyone would want to continue to pour money into this coin.  At this point someone with deep pockets needs to come along and be a whale, or get this coin on a larger exchange for it to succeed. *or develop some sort of unique feature that will draw attention

Speaking in my own name, I ask for forgiveness if I ever disappointed someone
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October 03, 2017, 03:21:56 PM
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i am sharing this coin around facebook (bitcoin groups and other groups) and other sites i will try my best to promote this coin.


thanks that is good work of yours

thanks i will donate to get this on bittrex after i made profit from other coin and to be honest this coin is so under value and i think this coin would actually get +40000sats if it was aimed at the right investors and if it was listed on bittrex

Good. I'm acting like you. Investing to the Investment fund when get profit form the trading. It's not every person have the funds at at this moment.


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October 03, 2017, 03:22:09 PM
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Kindly invite all those members who started to send me PMs to stop doing it. TIF Team post is an invitation to a Zoom meeting. If you have anything to say about our announcement, say it here.

I myself like the debates. Every time a debate was launched, something good was borned out of it. People's silent scares me.
As it turns out, I haven't missed meetings nor seminars so far. Silence is not encouraging and doesn't speak well of a community and coin with such a great potential.

I agree with you both.  The members have a voice in this; bring it forward, however, let it be constructive criticism.  Always something good comes out of it. Grin
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October 03, 2017, 03:25:21 PM
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Very disappointing news.  I think part of the problem is that the team asking people who already spent a lot of money buying XVP to spend even more money on XVP.  With the price continuously going down and no one able to find big investors, I don't see why anyone would want to continue to pour money into this coin.  At this point someone with deep pockets needs to come along and be a whale, or get this coin on a larger exchange for it to succeed. *or develop some sort of unique feature that will draw attention

I agree, however, if the entire Community is on board, and contribute, maybe we will reach our goal.  Since the value is low right now, XVPs is affordable.  Why not purchase the coins, and invest them into the Investment Funds.  People are mining the coins! Why not invest?  We made two proposals at the 1st meeting, the results were to list our coin on the best top exchanges, and/or implementing Masternodes.   Either proposals require funds.  Any constructive solutions are welcome!

What are you saying about? To purchase XVP and give them to the investment fund and then sell for BTC?  

You forgot that. Premine was burnt to give more transparency to the project. And now we are collecting other premine?

Yes I understand that XVP will be sold on Local Market.  But why don't invest with BTC?


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October 03, 2017, 03:26:42 PM
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I can not see much more about the future of XVP. it seems this price is still down and it has not much attraction for investors to join .
How can we do to list this coin on the bigger exchanges such as bittrex or livecoin or poloniex?


we need you to invest today in community investment fund.

i will invest more on the fund.

What is the community investment fund (is it exchanges like bleutrade)and sorry if it a stupid question

No...it's not an exchange.  It's funds raised to list our coin into the top best exchanges (e.g. Bitrex), and other future projects that will help move XVP forward.
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October 03, 2017, 03:42:33 PM
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I agree with you Balvio!  I'm resigning from my post as well with my head held high.  I give us both a pat on the back for a job well done partner!  Grin
You made it sound like a good news Gina. I'm already concerned that we are yet to pursue a single idea to fruition due to a crop of individuals who possibly have no clue where we are headed. Should we remain stunted because of others?

I'm already concerned also. Looks like that someone of TIF team is on emotional wave. When part of XVP future is in their hands.

We don't should remain stunted because of others. And think twice before say or do something.


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October 03, 2017, 03:51:34 PM
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I'm already concerned also. Looks like that someone of TIF team is on emotional wave. When part of XVP future is in their hands.
We don't should remain stunted because of others. And think twice before say or do something.

We thought 10 times before we made this announcement. But we don't see why people are concerned, the Fund is standing and can be accessed and multiplied further. There is no problem about it.
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October 03, 2017, 04:12:22 PM
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I'm already concerned also. Looks like that someone of TIF team is on emotional wave. When part of XVP future is in their hands.
We don't should remain stunted because of others. And think twice before say or do something.

We just invite respectfully two other members to take that "part of XVP future" into their hands and to carry on our work with better results. We are not satisfied with the results we have achieved and believe we have failed. It's for the sake of our coin!  Wink
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October 03, 2017, 04:29:06 PM
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I'm already concerned also. Looks like that someone of TIF team is on emotional wave. When part of XVP future is in their hands.
We don't should remain stunted because of others. And think twice before say or do something.

We just invite respectfully two other members to take that "part of XVP future" into their hands and to carry on our work with better results. We are not satisfied with the results we have achieved and believe we have failed. It's for the sake of our coin!  Wink

The results are higher then I imagined! Cheesy  Just one month is gone.

Looks like you want to add XVP to Bittrex fast and sell your coins  Grin

Why TIF can't stand as it is? Webinars welcome!

We are started to move in the right way. Uncertainty is the main problem. Uncertainty again.

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October 03, 2017, 04:37:07 PM
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The results are higher then I imagined! Cheesy  Just one month is gone.
Looks like you want to add XVP to Bittrex fast and sell your coins  Grin
Why TIF can't stand as it is? Webinars welcome!
We are started to move in the right way. Uncertainty is the main problem. Uncertainty again.
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You made it sound like a good news Gina. I'm already concerned that we are yet to pursue a single idea to fruition due to a crop of individuals who possibly have no clue where we are headed. Should we remain stunted because of others?

Not even a month is gone. Ten days in a row - no investments. We think that people cannot trust us and that's why only 23 of them have invested so far.
Yes, listing on Bittrex is a great desire for me, not to sell my coins, but to increase the daily xvp trading volume.
If someone takes over our tasks, where is the uncertainty?
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October 03, 2017, 05:19:43 PM
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The results are higher then I imagined! Cheesy  Just one month is gone.
Looks like you want to add XVP to Bittrex fast and sell your coins  Grin
Why TIF can't stand as it is? Webinars welcome!
We are started to move in the right way. Uncertainty is the main problem. Uncertainty again.
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You made it sound like a good news Gina. I'm already concerned that we are yet to pursue a single idea to fruition due to a crop of individuals who possibly have no clue where we are headed. Should we remain stunted because of others?

Not even a month is gone. Ten days in a row - no investments. We think that people cannot trust us and that's why only 23 of them have invested so far.
Yes, listing on Bittrex is a great desire for me, not to sell my coins, but to increase the daily xvp trading volume.
If someone takes over our tasks, where is the uncertainty?



Constant uncertainty in XVP community. Uncertainty about XVP future. Finally there are something definite on the table.  But maybe not?

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Our decision is not intended to create malfunctions in the subsequent operation of the Fund; however, it does require the choosing two other people to replace us.  The transfer of attributions can be done in two ways:
1. We will refund the money back to the investors, and they can decide for themselves what they want to do with it
2. The future cashier will take over the entire fund in a wallet together with the detailed information.
We prefer the first option to avoid any further contradictory discussion.

Why do you think that problem is in trust? Maybe people are just starting to trust. But how they can trust if you start something but then you throw that?

And there are a lot of factors, why people don't want to contribute in the Investment Fund. Maybe people don't want good exchange at this momentbecause want more cheap coins.


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October 03, 2017, 05:26:24 PM
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I think lots of people trust you, that's why there are 170 wallets.  That is a very large amount considering the low daily volume.  The problem is that those people already spent the money they have buying their XVP.  For most people, if they want to invest they will continue to buy more coin, not just donate for nothing in return and hope you are able to create some internet magic to drive up the value.  The fact is, that magic hasn't happened even with all the committees and meetings.  So now I don't know how you can expect donations without some clear proof of concept on how those donations will directly impact the value.  
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October 03, 2017, 05:46:32 PM
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The results are higher then I imagined! Cheesy  Just one month is gone.
Looks like you want to add XVP to Bittrex fast and sell your coins  Grin
Why TIF can't stand as it is? Webinars welcome!
We are started to move in the right way. Uncertainty is the main problem. Uncertainty again.
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You made it sound like a good news Gina. I'm already concerned that we are yet to pursue a single idea to fruition due to a crop of individuals who possibly have no clue where we are headed. Should we remain stunted because of others?

Not even a month is gone. Ten days in a row - no investments. We think that people cannot trust us and that's why only 23 of them have invested so far.
Yes, listing on Bittrex is a great desire for me, not to sell my coins, but to increase the daily xvp trading volume.
If someone takes over our tasks, where is the uncertainty?
Balvio no one complained about trust. You and Gina are people the community respect greatly. I think having understood the nature of the community for quite a while, it would not have been a surprise at all. But we can't continue to struggle and fail to achieve something because of other's weakness and ineffectiveness.
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October 03, 2017, 05:48:01 PM
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I think lots of people trust you, that's why there are 170 wallets.  That is a very large amount considering the low daily volume.  The problem is that those people already spent the money they have buying their XVP.  For most people, if they want to invest they will continue to buy more coin, not just donate for nothing in return and hope you are able to create some internet magic to drive up the value.  The fact is, that magic hasn't happened even with all the committees and meetings.  So now I don't know how you can expect donations without some clear proof of concept on how those donations will directly impact the value.  

Have you followed the idea from its conception?
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October 03, 2017, 05:51:04 PM
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I think lots of people trust you, that's why there are 170 wallets.  That is a very large amount considering the low daily volume.  The problem is that those people already spent the money they have buying their XVP.  For most people, if they want to invest they will continue to buy more coin, not just donate for nothing in return and hope you are able to create some internet magic to drive up the value.  The fact is, that magic hasn't happened even with all the committees and meetings.  So now I don't know how you can expect donations without some clear proof of concept on how those donations will directly impact the value.  

It's not about donations here. I thought the concept of TIF starting was pretty clear: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1851562.msg21788706#msg21788706.
If there is something to add and making it even more understandable, you can post it here.
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October 03, 2017, 05:57:11 PM
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I'm already concerned also. Looks like that someone of TIF team is on emotional wave. When part of XVP future is in their hands.
We don't should remain stunted because of others. And think twice before say or do something.

We just invite respectfully two other members to take that "part of XVP future" into their hands and to carry on our work with better results. We are not satisfied with the results we have achieved and believe we have failed. It's for the sake of our coin!  Wink
Balvio you are known with a resolute mind. How could you have failed already? We are in a process of doing  something positive. I think a bit of patience is all it takes especially when dealing with a global community.
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