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Getting listed in bigger exchanges has absolutely nothing to do with Money Velocity effect on price discovery. Otherwise you can cite academic researches that prove getting listed in bigger exchanges will do just that. Please don't use random occurrences as some scientific fact. "Getting listed in bigger exchanges will spike the price" is as FALSE as "stock split will make the price go higher". They come true NOT because they are driven by validity, but by self-fulfilling prophecy. And here you are trying to say self-fulfilling prophecy is valid by quoting money velocity, which is total BS. By the way, have you ever really gone thru the 3 links you provided? Because they have nothing to do with money velocity, and they have nothing to do with getting listed in bigger exchanges. Look, here's the real deal. Bittrex cannot list PPT (and many other ICO tokens) because they don't want to list tokens that behave like securities that may imply investments (even though they have no problem listing currencies).So you can either sell all your PPT or shut up about Bittrex listing (because such listing will never come). You are barking at the wrong tree here. So how is the TenX card not a security? That's on Bittrex and is basically stock in a credit card. Correct me if I'm wrong. And I'm not trying to create crap for TenX I like what they do also. EDIT: OmiseGo has an asset tag and not a currency tag on coinmarketcap. Not that coinmarketcap is the authority on crypto, I'm just bringing it up.
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So how is the TenX card not a security? That's on Bittrex and is basically stock in a credit card. Correct me if I'm wrong. And I'm not trying to create crap for TenX I like what they do also.
EDIT: OmiseGo has an asset tag and not a currency tag on coinmarketcap. Not that coinmarketcap is the authority on crypto, I'm just bringing it up.
If TenX token has similar behavior of a security, i.e. tokenholders get a share of any earnings made, and Bittrex is listing the token, then you can make open a contentious issue against Bittrex for going against its very own policy and demand an explanation from them for being biased and discriminative against PPT.
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September 21, 2017, 03:34:09 AM |
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So how is the TenX card not a security? That's on Bittrex and is basically stock in a credit card. Correct me if I'm wrong. And I'm not trying to create crap for TenX I like what they do also.
EDIT: OmiseGo has an asset tag and not a currency tag on coinmarketcap. Not that coinmarketcap is the authority on crypto, I'm just bringing it up.
If TenX token has similar behavior of a security, i.e. tokenholders get a share of any earnings made, and Bittrex is listing the token, then you can make open a contentious issue against Bittrex for going against its very own policy and demand an explanation from them for being biased and discriminative against PPT. TenX token holders receive a percentage of all transactions made using the card. I wasn't going to go to the exchange to say anything about it though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdWE69W8IRs
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September 21, 2017, 07:48:21 AM |
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There is only a few ways to make PPT fly to the moon:
1. Follow the development of the Populous invoice trading platform, to make sure it is flawless. 2. Promote/market Populous' services to business owners everywhere around the world. 3. Provide great services to users of Populous' invoice trading platform to create a reputable brand.
Everything else is just for pump-n-dump short-term spike for short-term trading. Yelling and screaming for Bittrex listing is one of such "everything else".
This will take years, but hey, if short-term trading is all you really wanted, then you shouldn't have gotten into PPT in the first place. You should have gotten into some other ICO tokens that don't behave like securities, that will stand much higher chance of Bittrex listing, that you can sell your "getting listed in Bittrex will spike the price" hype to pump the price short-term and make your money quick and easy.
PPT is not for short-term traders. Tough luck to you, if you are.
I agree you are talking sense here. When there is real value provided, the moon will come. Just everyone shouting about Bittrex, Bittrex, this will not add value to the PPT token only some liquidity and the odd pump and dump opportunity for pump groups and whales. I would be patient to see how the Company/ project develops and performs over the coming months. This is really a medium to long term hodl in my books.
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September 21, 2017, 09:42:13 AM |
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Getting listed in bigger exchanges has absolutely nothing to do with Money Velocity effect on price discovery. Otherwise you can cite academic researches that prove getting listed in bigger exchanges will do just that. Please don't use random occurrences as some scientific fact. "Getting listed in bigger exchanges will spike the price" is as FALSE as "stock split will make the price go higher". They come true NOT because they are driven by validity, but by self-fulfilling prophecy. And here you are trying to say self-fulfilling prophecy is valid by quoting money velocity, which is total BS. By the way, have you ever really gone thru the 3 links you provided? Because they have nothing to do with money velocity, and they have nothing to do with getting listed in bigger exchanges. Look, here's the real deal. Bittrex cannot list PPT (and many other ICO tokens) because they don't want to list tokens that behave like securities that may imply investments (even though they have no problem listing currencies). So you can either sell all your PPT or shut up about Bittrex listing (because such listing will never come). You are barking at the wrong tree here. You are correct inasmuch regarding price spikes from listing PPT on larger exchanges, but the reason why is not due to factors you raised, PPT is not a security, no dividends are paid, read the business plan: http://populous.co/media/Business_Plan_Populous_final.pdf5.2.1 Buyback mechanism The buyback mechanism serves a few purposes. Firstly, the buyback mechanism acts as an indicator that the platform has generated enough working capital to repurchase the tokens and utilize a portion of the cash and cash equivalent. Upon the buyback, there will be fewer tokens available in circulation, which enables easier transactions with the PPT in the platform as there will be lesser congestion in the network.
Illustration of the buyback mechanism The buyback mechanism is illustrated with the following simplified example: Imagine there is 10,000 PPT in circulation where you own 100, each valued at 1$, giving market cap of $10,000. Assume that every 100 PPT lets you generate $10 per year for investing in invoices and every year from Y2 onwards, 1000 PPT is bought back and destroyed. When the platform becomes open source, this is when larger exchanges will become available to PPT.
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September 21, 2017, 10:45:43 AM |
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If indeed PPT is not a security (I agree on this, but others may loosely interpret it differently) and TenX being similar to security can still be listed in Bittrex, then someone needs to raise this with Bittrex to find out if they are just being biased.
Nevertheless, Bittrex listing means nothing in the long run.
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September 21, 2017, 10:50:21 AM |
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When the platform becomes open source, this is when larger exchanges will become available to PPT.
So this is the reason why Bittrex isn't listing PPT? That it is not open source?
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September 21, 2017, 10:59:33 AM |
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When the platform becomes open source, this is when larger exchanges will become available to PPT.
So this is the reason why Bittrex isn't listing PPT? That it is not open source? Yes, the projects intention is open source, but the GitHub has not been made public yet, so technically it is not open source until the source is opened up to the public, which will happen during transition from beta to live.
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September 21, 2017, 12:52:28 PM |
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In that case, then listing in Bittrex should be a future certainty.
This should put to rest all the screaming and yelling for Bittrex listing. Just hold your position and wait.
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September 21, 2017, 12:57:09 PM |
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In that case, then listing in Bittrex should be a future certainty.
This should put to rest all the screaming and yelling for Bittrex listing. Just hold your position and wait.
yeah ,hope ppt will list Bittrex as soon as possible , it's a long time right ,time to Bittrex now.
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September 21, 2017, 12:59:42 PM |
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In that case, then listing in Bittrex should be a future certainty.
This should put to rest all the screaming and yelling for Bittrex listing. Just hold your position and wait.
yeah ,hope ppt will list Bittrex as soon as possible , it's a long time right ,time to Bittrex now. That's a little surprising why it not getting succeed to take place on Bittrex. I think the reason Bittrex is not taking the new coin from almost 2 months I hope in next batch of coins PPT will get succeed to take place there. I think it's good to hold this for long term.
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September 21, 2017, 01:12:04 PM |
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In that case, then listing in Bittrex should be a future certainty.
This should put to rest all the screaming and yelling for Bittrex listing. Just hold your position and wait.
yeah ,hope ppt will list Bittrex as soon as possible , it's a long time right ,time to Bittrex now. That's a little surprising why it not getting succeed to take place on Bittrex. I think the reason Bittrex is not taking the new coin from almost 2 months I hope in next batch of coins PPT will get succeed to take place there. I think it's good to hold this for long term. hopefully the developer is doing the best for this coin.. let's support the efforts of developers to fight for this coin to listed in biitrex is not in vain waiting for the price of coins will be even more expensive
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September 21, 2017, 01:50:38 PM |
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In that case, then listing in Bittrex should be a future certainty.
This should put to rest all the screaming and yelling for Bittrex listing. Just hold your position and wait.
yeah ,hope ppt will list Bittrex as soon as possible , it's a long time right ,time to Bittrex now. That's a little surprising why it not getting succeed to take place on Bittrex. I think the reason Bittrex is not taking the new coin from almost 2 months I hope in next batch of coins PPT will get succeed to take place there. I think it's good to hold this for long term. The priority is supposed to be to develop POPULOUS platform, then POPULOUS team decides what the best way to grow value of ppt price.
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I think PPT coin too much good so where Bittrex? Be list now please
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September 21, 2017, 05:45:49 PM |
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September 21, 2017, 10:28:14 PM |
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Guess it's time to scoop up a few more. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) don't these idiots know the chinese can't kill cryptos? Their central planners can't even figure out how many houses they need to build without throwing the economy into the crapper. This china nonsense hits the icos particularly hard because people dump the platform coin (ethereum) and the ico (populous).
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Hi everyone, Just letting you that we making good progress on the beta.
Hi Populous World. Thank you for all your efforts!! I hold several thousand ppt tokens and I just read your business plan. With the price of the ppt tokens under pressure lately and falling towards new lows, it would be very helpful for myself and all the members of the ppt community to have a reason to hold our current ppt and better yet, a reason to buy more. If you would be kind enough to explain in greater detail these few questions, which I feel were not well addressed in the business plan...thanks in advance: 1. How can the PPT token be used on the platform to generate a passive income for the PPT owner? 2. How are the PPT tokens protected from loss once they are loaded into the platform? 3. Will the platform allow the purchase of invoices with fiat currency? If so, then why should we hold PPT? Maybe you are still figuring some of these things out? If so please give us your best current understanding. Cheers!!
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To Populous World, one more question:
4. Why are you limiting Populous to the invoice factoring business? It seems to me that the basic platform would work well for any blockchain based P2P lending scenario? Using PPT as a collateral and capital base you could do exactly what Salt Lending is planning to do, which is P2P lending on digital assets. There really is no limit to the potential.
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Hi everyone, Just letting you that we making good progress on the beta.
Hi Populous World. Thank you for all your efforts!! I hold several thousand ppt tokens and I just read your business plan. With the price of the ppt tokens under pressure lately and falling towards new lows, it would be very helpful for myself and all the members of the ppt community to have a reason to hold our current ppt and better yet, a reason to buy more. If you would be kind enough to explain in greater detail these few questions, which I feel were not well addressed in the business plan...thanks in advance: 1. How can the PPT token be used on the platform to generate a passive income for the PPT owner? 2. How are the PPT tokens protected from loss once they are loaded into the platform? 3. Will the platform allow the purchase of invoices with fiat currency? If so, then why should we hold PPT? Maybe you are still figuring some of these things out? If so please give us your best current understanding. Cheers!! HAHA, falling to new lows? People in crypto have a very short memory span as I bought a lot of PPT when it hit 1$ in July...
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Basic Human Nature
To Populous World, I genuinely wish for your success, however I really only care deeply about what's in it for me. That is true for every investor. We really only want to know what is the net benefit is of buying, holding, and using your PPT tokens.
If we can save the world along the way, well that is great, but what really counts is making sure that the people who are continuing to invest in your company are well taken care of.
Cheers.
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