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May 10, 2017, 08:29:39 AM
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I was all amd I shifted to mostly nvidia

making 50 bucks a day  so every 14 days I pay off 1 1080ti 

so far  3 1080 ti"s are paid for.

Not sure how long the roll will last  but just 28 more days means  5 1080 ti's will be paid for.


with BTC this high.... my group's mining ROI became even faster.... so I expanded to a 2nd GPU farm.

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May 10, 2017, 08:48:29 AM
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Phil..... can you spare a few coins to test this baby out?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138439

Biostar RACING Z270-GT9

6 slots !

This could be a nice board for the 1080ti or array of 1070s

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May 10, 2017, 09:05:25 AM
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I guess I might have a slight problem.




If you are undervolting, try to increase the voltage.
If you are overclocking, reduce it.

Try with almost stock settings, memory error should be in a way smaller order of magnitude (<1000/minute)
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May 10, 2017, 09:24:08 AM
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yeah the 1080 ti   can push 4 sols a watt   

 tdp or power can drop to 50%   

once you go over  75%   the sols to watts  drop a lot

They all have different sweet spots..

I have

3 msi   1080 ti   aero       https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137115  my favorite one so far

3 zotac 1080 ti  founders  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500415   okay same as the pny
1 pny   1080 ti  founders  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133648
1 aorus 1080 ti  3 fan      https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125954   big card 3 slots wide

1 zotac 1080  mini    does 140 watts and 500h
1 asus  1070 strix     does 110 watts and 410h
1 msi    1070 gamer  does 110 watts and 410h

I have a msi 1060 3gb  gamer it was cheap it comes today https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137033 180 after rebate I had coupon so 170


Hi Phil,
Any specific reason you favor Aero over Aorus?  any insight will be highly appreciated.

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May 10, 2017, 11:44:31 AM
Last edit: May 10, 2017, 12:03:30 PM by philipma1957
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yeah the 1080 ti   can push 4 sols a watt    

 tdp or power can drop to 50%    

once you go over  75%   the sols to watts  drop a lot

They all have different sweet spots..

I have

3 msi   1080 ti   aero       https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137115  my favorite one so far

3 zotac 1080 ti  founders  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500415   okay same as the pny
1 pny   1080 ti  founders  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133648
1 aorus 1080 ti  3 fan      https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125954   big card 3 slots wide

1 zotac 1080  mini    does 140 watts and 500h
1 asus  1070 strix     does 110 watts and 410h
1 msi    1070 gamer  does 110 watts and 410h

I have a msi 1060 3gb  gamer it was cheap it comes today https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137033 180 after rebate I had coupon so 170


Hi Phil,
Any specific reason you favor Aero over Aorus?  any insight will be highly appreciated.

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 BLife  it is a true 2 slot card the aorus is a 3 slot card   since most of my gear is slot based not riser based the aorus  is harder to fit.




@ citronick  that board looks pretty good   my findings on the z270  gigabyte boards show me 5 cards are easy peasy  never got around to testing six.

that board has spacing issues  compare it to the z170

not so easy to do 4 galax katana 1070 with proper spacing


easy peasy four galax katana 1070's for the z170 and I have 5 or six on hand

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May 10, 2017, 11:56:06 AM
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Yeah I could see why you are not rushing to do  that board.
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May 10, 2017, 12:01:41 PM
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I want to buy it I really do  but  newegg is charging a lot


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138439

and sticking in an ssd that I do not need.


this one appeals more to me

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138441


it may do 7 and you can start with 3 cards in slots  earn money and add risers later.


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May 10, 2017, 12:51:19 PM
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I want to buy it I really do  but  newegg is charging a lot


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138439

and sticking in an ssd that I do not need.


this one appeals more to me

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138441


it may do 7 and you can start with 3 cards in slots  earn money and add risers later.



Im liking that board better personally.  Most of the time, if you go over 3-4 GPU, you'll want risers and better spacing anyways.

If I buy a newer generation board, I may go after that one....

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May 10, 2017, 01:08:07 PM
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I want to buy it I really do  but  newegg is charging a lot


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138439

and sticking in an ssd that I do not need.


this one appeals more to me

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138441


it may do 7 and you can start with 3 cards in slots  earn money and add risers later.



Im liking that board better personally.  Most of the time, if you go over 3-4 GPU, you'll want risers and better spacing anyways.

If I buy a newer generation board, I may go after that one....









this is very good  does five with  a mix of slots and risers  it is low cost 108  rebates drop it under 100

It most likely does six I have been lazy and not tested six.  but 3 asus strix and 2 msi gamer  rx 480's all 8gb   running zec at 1500 sols using smOS  pretty much perfectly

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N2V0AHI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?


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May 10, 2017, 02:03:57 PM
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Thanks again for putting the need for spacing into perspective - the GT6 board would be ideal with enough spacing; its cheaper too - thanks Phil

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May 10, 2017, 07:04:13 PM
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What I like about the GTX9, is you could use full ribbon risers to have a clean rig with space.
my ? are ribbon risers better then power risers?Huh

That should be GT9. I had GTX 1080 Ti on my mind. Grin
                   ribbon riser = bad
                   powered risers = good





Another ?. when the Vega comes out, would it be better to use a AMD mobo, or a intel Huh?

don't know as  a high end  AMD cpu = $$$   but it may  mine xmr well  as the vega mines zec or eth


Another ?. I'm looking at the GTX 1080 Ti. The price range from 1 fan (lowest) to 3 fans (highest).
If you factor in spacing, can you benefit by 1 fan. or am I missing something?Huh

so far I think I like  msi aero  1 fan cards

founder edition 1 fan   are not as good.

I have 1 3 fan  gigabyte aorus  it is too wide.

BTW  please do not multi post 2 or 3 or more in a  row.  I deleted them for space.

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Have you guys found using wood rig frames has any affect on room cooling vs using aluminum frames or whatever?
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May 10, 2017, 07:44:44 PM
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Have you guys found using wood rig frames has any affect on room cooling vs using aluminum frames or whatever?

I dont have a ton of rigs but I dont think something like this would really matter. Best answer to this is to look into the thermal conductivity of the type of material your rig frame is built from.

K Value (therm cond)

Aluminum = 205
Wood = 0.12-0.4

So obviously the thermal conductivity of the aluminum is much much better. The wood will retain more heat and swell much more than than the aluminum however it is not electrically conductive (mostly Wink)

Probably more important in the wood vs aluminum debate is thermal expansion. Linear growth coefficient for aluminum is about 23 and for wood it can vary from 54 to 27. So wood rigs will "swell" more than the aluminum frames.

Aluminum rig Pros:
Frame strength
Corrision resistance
Better thermal properties

Cons:
Electrically conductive
More expensive
Harder to make


Wood Frame Pros:
Cheap to make
More simple to customize
Won't conduct electricity

Cons:
Will expand and contract more
Can rot, bugs, absorb moisture
Could catch fire

I'm a cheap skate so I go wood build and have always used this guide because I can make them in 20 min.
http://highoncoins.com/litecoin-rig/how-to-make-diy-wooden-frame-for-litecoindogecoin-rig/





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Wood rigs cheap and easy to make and are great if you never have a burn out.

So good psu's and don't tax them at 90%

good risers
good wires.

and great fans to cool the gear down.

lastly do not run the gpus pedal to the metal.

look here  two gpu rigs only 4 cards  as I am finalizing my solar array with buysolar for the next 5 months

I added this one today.
the silver is a fire barrier as it works in car engines .
it is a wind tunnel
it also sound proofs
I added the 2 gpu one

here it is hashing but not maxed  clocks  


put it on the car before I drove it to the array



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@phil
i really like the two card design you have going on. reminds of the milk crates miners back in the day

are you equihash only now? or is that because you have mostly nvidia now?

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@Phil, One of my Diamond RX480 ref cards died. Sent it back, they got it yesterday, checked it out, and sent new one out today. Pretty good turnaround.
And sure appreciate you handling the escrow for me!
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Hello guys, I would like to share how it's going with my setup since you been really great for me as indicator to what to do or not.

By now I've got 3 nvidia GTX 1080 TI and a nvidia GTX 970.

And here's a screenshot how my ZCash miner it's going.

After much testing I've got this results and since here power bills are kinda expensive I don't go full power, but instead I went looking for a good Sols/W rate.

https://i.gyazo.com/8dea148527b140108273c33dced666a3.png


Does anyone know why always the last GPU does have better Sol/W rate? I've done a lot of testing and it's always happening to me. I don't know the reason but always the last card on the rig does consume like 10% less power doing the same hashrate. Check if it's happening to you also.
Of course all NVIDIA GTX 1080 TI are sharing the same settings.

If you got some tips to improve Sol/W, or lower power consumption from other components please share them Smiley
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FWIW I have used ribbon risers before.

As long as they have their own power cable to power them, id say they are useable.

They aren't for systems that will see lots of movement or be taken apart a lot....  They are very fragile compared to the typical powered risers.

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Hello guys, I would like to share how it's going with my setup since you been really great for me as indicator to what to do or not.

By now I've got 3 nvidia GTX 1080 TI and a nvidia GTX 970.

And here's a screenshot how my ZCash miner it's going.

After much testing I've got this results and since here power bills are kinda expensive I don't go full power, but instead I went looking for a good Sols/W rate.

https://i.gyazo.com/8dea148527b140108273c33dced666a3.png


Does anyone know why always the last GPU does have better Sol/W rate? I've done a lot of testing and it's always happening to me. I don't know the reason but always the last card on the rig does consume like 10% less power doing the same hashrate. Check if it's happening to you also.
Of course all NVIDIA GTX 1080 TI are sharing the same settings.

If you got some tips to improve Sol/W, or lower power consumption from other components please share them Smiley

I will check, what miner are you using? I don't know how to get that efficiency table with ewbf-zec

What settings are you using on your 1080ti? Looks like you have TDP down quite a bit but still getting good sol/s
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Hello guys, I would like to share how it's going with my setup since you been really great for me as indicator to what to do or not.

By now I've got 3 nvidia GTX 1080 TI and a nvidia GTX 970.

And here's a screenshot how my ZCash miner it's going.

After much testing I've got this results and since here power bills are kinda expensive I don't go full power, but instead I went looking for a good Sols/W rate.




Does anyone know why always the last GPU does have better Sol/W rate? I've done a lot of testing and it's always happening to me. I don't know the reason but always the last card on the rig does consume like 10% less power doing the same hashrate. Check if it's happening to you also.
Of course all NVIDIA GTX 1080 TI are sharing the same settings.

If you got some tips to improve Sol/W, or lower power consumption from other components please share them Smiley

I will check, what miner are you using? I don't know how to get that efficiency table with ewbf-zec

What settings are you using on your 1080ti? Looks like you have TDP down quite a bit but still getting good sol/s

I had the same question

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