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September 12, 2021, 12:28:02 AM
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It is rumoured that Manchester City have put Jude Bellingham in their transfer list also. And they seem ready to fight with Liverpool to sign him. The 18-year-old player is really promising I think. He could contribute well to these English clubs well. But he is still very young of course. He would be like an investment for the future.

So you are saying that they are ready to offer three digits to Borussia Dortmund? Grin I'm sure they won't let him go for less than a hundred million at least. Manchester United already got a bargain for Jadon Sancho, I don't think Borussia Dortmund accept offers less than his transfer price. If you pay that high prices it won't be an investment, rather it would be an addition to the squad. You buy him to play him, not sell him for higher price. It's already a very high transfer fee.
I think Jude Bellingham will be successful in any English clubs though, I have no doubt about that.

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September 12, 2021, 02:50:20 AM
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On a serious note, if somehow Mbappe ended up in Real Madrid next season as a free agent then they wont really have to worry about any financial situation though. Real Madrid offered around 180m for Mbappe weeks ago and that means they got tons of funds to spend for all those weekly wages.
I heard the news PSG wants to extend the new Mbape contract for 2 years. PSG has understood this situation, they aren't want to leave it for free, but the problem is when Mbappe won't continue it (if haven't the deal with new salary), PSG can't do anything. Possible Mbappe wants to make a deal for the same with Messi's salary, which makes it impossible to continue it. I guess on January windows transfer it could happen, Mbappe leaves to madrid or city.

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On a serious note, if somehow Mbappe ended up in Real Madrid next season as a free agent then they wont really have to worry about any financial situation though. Real Madrid offered around 180m for Mbappe weeks ago and that means they got tons of funds to spend for all those weekly wages.
I heard the news PSG wants to extend the new Mbape contract for 2 years. PSG has understood this situation, they aren't want to leave it for free, but the problem is when Mbappe won't continue it (if haven't the deal with new salary), PSG can't do anything. Possible Mbappe wants to make a deal for the same with Messi's salary, which makes it impossible to continue it. I guess on January windows transfer it could happen, Mbappe leaves to madrid or city.

Two years I think is very short period contract for Mbappe and looks less possibility if have young player want to extended contract only two year, maybe for Lionel Messi or Sergio Ramos have older possibility to contract with two years only and have option one year extended depend with their performance. I hope Mbappe not agree with new contract extended two years for PSG and want to see him become Real Madrid player for next year with free transfer. Very lucky if any club got him because still young and have made many goal for PSG and keep become the best forward.

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September 12, 2021, 01:07:47 PM
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On a serious note, if somehow Mbappe ended up in Real Madrid next season as a free agent then they wont really have to worry about any financial situation though. Real Madrid offered around 180m for Mbappe weeks ago and that means they got tons of funds to spend for all those weekly wages.
I heard the news PSG wants to extend the new Mbape contract for 2 years. PSG has understood this situation, they aren't want to leave it for free, but the problem is when Mbappe won't continue it (if haven't the deal with new salary), PSG can't do anything. Possible Mbappe wants to make a deal for the same with Messi's salary, which makes it impossible to continue it. I guess on January windows transfer it could happen, Mbappe leaves to madrid or city.


PSG is playing a very risky game here.
They have turned down big money from Real for Mbappe and want with him, Neymar and Messi to finally win the Champions League.
This risk may be pay off for them, but they may be left without the European title and without Mbappe next year.
In PSG, they are obviously calculating that if they win all the trophies next year, including the Champions League, then maybe Mbappe will change his mind and give up on Real.

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September 12, 2021, 02:59:55 PM
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PSG is playing a very risky game here.
They have turned down big money from Real for Mbappe and want with him, Neymar and Messi to finally win the Champions League.
This risk may be pay off for them, but they may be left without the European title and without Mbappe next year.
In PSG, they are obviously calculating that if they win all the trophies next year, including the Champions League, then maybe Mbappe will change his mind and give up on Real.

I agree with you that they are indeed playing a very risky game. They value the player a lot and they want him to continue and maybe they somehow believe that he will extend if they continue to push him. I think at this point they don't care about loss they are gonna incur after he leaves for free and rather just keep giving him good offers until one hits where gives on his signature.
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September 12, 2021, 03:03:27 PM
Last edit: September 12, 2021, 03:31:11 PM by masulum
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Ronaldo vs Messi on jersey sale:

MU Get 181m Pounds for Ronaldo's jersey sales so far
PSG Get 103m Pounds for Messi's jersey sales so far

The club are take a huge profits from both, especially for PSG, they are get Messi. From this sales data, it seems that both clubs are successful in boosting their finances. This is just the beginning of the season, it is not impossible that sales in the first season will increase.

Update for source:

https://www.lovethesales.com/press/articles/football-shirt-sales

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September 12, 2021, 03:26:04 PM
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Ronaldo vs Messi on jersey sale:

MU Get 181m Pounds for Ronaldo's jersey sales so far
PSG Get 103m Pounds for Messi's jersey sales so far

The club are take a huge profits from both, especially for PSG, they are get Messi. From this sales data, it seems that both clubs are successful in boosting their finances. This is just the beginning of the season, it is not impossible that sales in the first season will increase.

What's the source? These numbers look way too high, it can't be real. If you count it as 100 pound per jersey they have to sell 1.8 million and 1 million jersey, it's hardly possible with this short time frame. I'd like to see the source for these numbers. I don't even count the cost of jersey, kit firm and other expenses. Clubs don't get %100 of shirt sales.
Both players boost team's financials for sure but considering their wages it's a drop in the ocean. Champions League achievement would be the biggest help financially.

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September 12, 2021, 03:40:50 PM
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According to Mundo Deportivo, Real Madrid seem like confident that they will be able to sign Manchester United midfielder Paul Pogba as a free agent next summer. As you know, his contract is going to expire on June 30, 2022. He still hasn't made his decision about what to do in the future. He is wanted by PSG also so we might see Real Madrid and PSG both fighting to sign him. After Ronaldo's joining the team, they are even more powerful now. And if they win a big title like the Premier League or the Champions League this season, then maybe he would decide to stay for more time.

https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/real-madrid/20210910/1001686423/pogba-vuelve-sonar-real-madrid.html
Classic way to ask for a higher salary , especially mino raiola that well known as a sucker there in football player agent ..

its clearly a 50/50 chance whether pogba extend his contract in the last minutes of transfer window and get the wage increased or leave for a higher and inevitable offer from real madrid.
easy to guess.
they are pretty confident to sign top players next summer , well they need a new generation player like mbappe and or haaland , but that transfer would require loads of cash while most top european clubs struggle with the club financial included real madrid themselves.
hard to make it happened but its a must for a prestige club like real madrid though.

I strongly believe Paul Pogba will leave and not sign a contract extension at Manchester United, playing for Real Madrid has been a dream,said this countless times as well been linked with a move down there.
This is the last chance for him to fulfill that dream so I think he'll make the move.....I don't see him making further signatures with the Red devil's.
Mbappe as well will sure make he's move down there, if they've got the cash, they should Splash it on Halland he deserves to play for Real Madrid.

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I strongly believe Paul Pogba will leave and not sign a contract extension at Manchester United, playing for Real Madrid has been a dream,said this countless times as well been linked with a move down there.
This is the last chance for him to fulfill that dream so I think he'll make the move.....I don't see him making further signatures with the Red devil's.
Mbappe as well will sure make he's move down there, if they've got the cash, they should Splash it on Halland he deserves to play for Real Madrid.

I disagree with that I think pogba we sign a new contract with Manchester United but it we depend on the achievement of the club this season,his fear is he does not know if United can beat the likes of city, Chelsea or Liverpool for the PL title. I think if the resigning of CR7 is successful and brings titles with it he won't think twice to sign a new contract. For mbappe I think he has this dream to play for Madrid and Paris is playing a dangerous game keeping him cus he might go for free, I don't see him signing a new contract
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September 12, 2021, 07:12:35 PM
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I heard the news PSG wants to extend the new Mbape contract for 2 years. PSG has understood this situation, they aren't want to leave it for free, but the problem is when Mbappe won't continue it (if haven't the deal with new salary), PSG can't do anything. Possible Mbappe wants to make a deal for the same with Messi's salary, which makes it impossible to continue it. I guess on January windows transfer it could happen, Mbappe leaves to madrid or city.

Thats probably not going to happen because Mbappe was actually asking PSG to accept the offer from Real Madrid so that kinda tell that he wanted to leave. If he sign another extension contract then it means his chance to leave is even slimmer because PSG would only accept atleast 200m offer for Mbappe so chances are that he is not going to sign another contract

In PSG, they are obviously calculating that if they win all the trophies next year, including the Champions League, then maybe Mbappe will change his mind and give up on Real.

Possibly but he is a very passionate player and he cant keep on playing in Ligue 1 if he wants to strive to make his name goes down in history

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September 12, 2021, 07:27:10 PM
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Ronaldo vs Messi on jersey sale:

MU Get 181m Pounds for Ronaldo's jersey sales so far
PSG Get 103m Pounds for Messi's jersey sales so far

The club are take a huge profits from both, especially for PSG, they are get Messi. From this sales data, it seems that both clubs are successful in boosting their finances. This is just the beginning of the season, it is not impossible that sales in the first season will increase.

Update for source:

https://www.lovethesales.com/press/articles/football-shirt-sales
you just cant compare a die hard manchester united fans ... they are the best in supporting the club, i have my respect to them as a chelsea hooligan.
so no wonder if the data says cristiano transfer much more successful boosting the shirt sales compared to messi at psg , you just cant compare that.

crazy how the business grow with these two goats , and its happened in the same season, ffffiuh.

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Ronaldo vs Messi on jersey sale:

MU Get 181m Pounds for Ronaldo's jersey sales so far
PSG Get 103m Pounds for Messi's jersey sales so far

The club are take a huge profits from both, especially for PSG, they are get Messi. From this sales data, it seems that both clubs are successful in boosting their finances. This is just the beginning of the season, it is not impossible that sales in the first season will increase.

What's the source? These numbers look way too high, it can't be real. If you count it as 100 pound per jersey they have to sell 1.8 million and 1 million jersey, it's hardly possible with this short time frame. I'd like to see the source for these numbers. I don't even count the cost of jersey, kit firm and other expenses. Clubs don't get %100 of shirt sales.
Both players boost team's financials for sure but considering their wages it's a drop in the ocean. Champions League achievement would be the biggest help financially.

Yes, clubs don't get 100% from the sale of their jerseys, but according to media reports and the source cited by masulum, Man Utd has already recouped the £12.9m it paid Juventus to sign Ronaldo just from the commission. As stated in the source: "Data is compiled from sales figures across more than 1,000 retailers worldwide. ", so I guess those numbers cover the whole world, which then isn't that surprising when you think about it.

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Guys, i have a question, about these possibilities of teams that Haaland could go to, which one would be the best choice for him? I mean in the sense of making a difference and succeeding in your new team?
Man City? Real Madrid? Barcelona? PSG or others?

IM not sure if this is correct but Dani Alves is officially a free agent which means that any club could sign him any time of the season. The transfer windows only restrict transfer moves from a player from one club to another club
Yes, exactly, Dani Alves was released from São Paulo because there were some disagreements between the player and the team.
As it was not feasible for Dani Alves to remain on the team, because of these problems, he was dismissed and now he is free agent

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I don't know if you followed from the time he started playing in Real Madrid as a kid, but Asensio is actually a left-winger and his strongest foot is his left.
I don't think it is needed to follow him since he is a kid. We are talking about his position now. He is good to position as a right-winger because having the strongest left foot will take more advantage and must be more effective in this position.

Zidane just decided to put him on the right wing because on the left, there are so many players that can fit there naturally as well.
I am not sure it is about too many players as left-wingers but it should be about optimizing the potential of the player itself. Zidane is a wise and smart coach, he won't put a player in the position that the player won't feel comfortable and probably bad to improve his ability. Zidane must know that the right-winger is the best position for Asensio.

Selling Hazard and Bale isn't as easy as you think. First look at Bale's situation, How many clubs do you think would want to spend lots of money on him?
Why do you seem not happy with my idea? Are you a Real Madrid fan? If you are really a Real Madrid fan, you must know if these players deserve to be put on the transfer list.  Roll Eyes  Anyway, if Real Madrid really wants to sell them, there should be some clubs to try signing them. They are still top players, many clubs expect to have them on their squads. It is not as complicated as you think. I don't know why you are too pessimistic.  Huh



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September 13, 2021, 06:37:53 AM
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There aren't any clubs that will go for either Bale or Hazard. The problem is not the quality of the players (although their performances dropped heavily) or the transfer fee (Real would sell them for a low fee), the problem is their salary.
Not many clubs can afford it, not more than 5, all of these clubs have better players there and won't take a gamble on expensive out of form players.

Selling a player is sometimes really hard to do, especially when a player does not want to lower his wage demands. Anybody could sign Bale if he wanted to reduce his salary, but he's enjoying his life in Madrid and has no intention of doing that. I assume Hazard's the same.

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There aren't any clubs that will go for either Bale or Hazard. The problem is not the quality of the players (although their performances dropped heavily) or the transfer fee (Real would sell them for a low fee), the problem is their salary.
Not many clubs can afford it, not more than 5, all of these clubs have better players there and won't take a gamble on expensive out of form players.

Selling a player is sometimes really hard to do, especially when a player does not want to lower his wage demands. Anybody could sign Bale if he wanted to reduce his salary, but he's enjoying his life in Madrid and has no intention of doing that. I assume Hazard's the same.

I expecteduch more from the Belgium international Eden Hazard, but he couldn't make up with a big move to Real Madrid,this is actually he's Second season there.
He has greatly under-performed, this is not the Hazard I think I know.
Gareth Bale has achieved a little bit from he's time there at with the Los blancos side......he's won Everything you dream about as a player, scored in a Champions League final as well.
One more year remaining in he's current contract, after that I believe he'll leave.

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Yes, clubs don't get 100% from the sale of their jerseys, but according to media reports and the source cited by masulum, Man Utd has already recouped the £12.9m it paid Juventus to sign Ronaldo just from the commission. As stated in the source: "Data is compiled from sales figures across more than 1,000 retailers worldwide. ", so I guess those numbers cover the whole world, which then isn't that surprising when you think about it.

He didn't put source when I replied, as you can see his message he edited that post and put that source after. I asked source because numbers looked odd, yes you can sell that many jerseys worldwide if you start printing them before the deal. I don't think you make much money from shirt sales alone though, they add other income to these numbers. I'm pretty sure Adidas and Nike are making more money than clubs here if we only think about pure shirt sale.
Jordan logo on football jerseys look funny though, it seems like Jordan brand is way bigger than basketball now. I'd like to cop a Messi jersey but prefer Nike logo on it, the only problem is they are too expensive in our country. Grin

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There aren't any clubs that will go for either Bale or Hazard. The problem is not the quality of the players (although their performances dropped heavily) or the transfer fee (Real would sell them for a low fee), the problem is their salary.
Not many clubs can afford it, not more than 5, all of these clubs have better players there and won't take a gamble on expensive out of form players.

Selling a player is sometimes really hard to do, especially when a player does not want to lower his wage demands. Anybody could sign Bale if he wanted to reduce his salary, but he's enjoying his life in Madrid and has no intention of doing that. I assume Hazard's the same.
I expecteduch more from the Belgium international Eden Hazard, but he couldn't make up with a big move to Real Madrid,this is actually he's Second season there.
He has greatly under-performed, this is not the Hazard I think I know.
Gareth Bale has achieved a little bit from he's time there at with the Los blancos side......he's won Everything you dream about as a player, scored in a Champions League final as well.
One more year remaining in he's current contract, after that I believe he'll leave.
The amount of salary they are getting could be dropped. Like let's say Bale is getting 30 million? Half of that could be paid until his contract ends. I do not know how long his contract is but let's assume it is 2 years left? Then Real could sell him, and pay half of his salary for 2 years. In that situation Real is getting rid of half of the salary, that is a good thing.

Or they could just sell him for free, and the new team could offer Bale a longer contract that gives a better result, instead of 30 million for 2 years, he could get 10 million for 6 years, or something like that, it would definitely increase the chances of him leaving and finding a good club for himself AND he could also keep getting paid for many years.
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September 13, 2021, 09:09:45 PM
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Ronaldo vs Messi on jersey sale:

MU Get 181m Pounds for Ronaldo's jersey sales so far
PSG Get 103m Pounds for Messi's jersey sales so far

The club are take a huge profits from both, especially for PSG, they are get Messi. From this sales data, it seems that both clubs are successful in boosting their finances. This is just the beginning of the season, it is not impossible that sales in the first season will increase.

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https://www.lovethesales.com/press/articles/football-shirt-sales

Those stats are as expected. Ronaldo's move in my opinion, was the bigger move compared to that of Messi and one interesting fact is that Cr7 moved to a team where he already had plenty of fans that have been following him fir years even when he was at Madrid or Juve, there were man utd fans that "fully" supported him.  Back at Man Utd, it's just like an homecoming king. Always knew it'd be like this.

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I do not know how long his contract is but let's assume it is 2 years left?

It ends next year if he doesnt sign another extension but I doubt that Real Madrid will offer him another extension contract. Depending on how good he is this season, there might be some surprise but I personally doubt that

Or they could just sell him for free, and the new team could offer Bale a longer contract that gives a better result

Im not sure what you are trying to say but seriously 'sell him for free' ? You cant just 'give' Bale away 'for free' to another team if he is still part of the team, there will be always some compensation or fee if he play for another team and if some other teams want to offer him a contract without having pay the transfer fee then they will need to wait until Bale is officially a free agent.

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