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April 26, 2024, 06:23:39 PM
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I have heard the coach of Real Madrid said that they are going to give him a lot of chances in the upcoming season. I believe that's why they have not been actually agreeing with any of the offers that have been given to them for this plan. Actually, it is definitely a good approach. They have seen good potential in the state and they are trying to keep him as close as possible.

This approach is going to be successful. They are probably going to get a pretty good performance from this kid. If he is able to avoid injuries of course. Arda Guler has not been a player who is very popular with many people. He did create a lot of noise when he actually joined Real Madrid. But after that, he has been an occasional benchwarmer and also not been selected for the squad as well. But the upcoming season looks to be promising for him.


Coming from Fenerbache with high hopes to continue to develop in Madrid certainly makes Arda Guller now disappointed because he did not get many playing opportunities, I think at a very young age of course he must be patient to be able to get more playing time, penetrating the Madrid main squad is not an easy thing especially he has to compete with great players who have experienced,  Ancelotti now wants to give him playing time including tomorrow  in match against Real Sociedad, but i think with will the season coming to a close, of course, Arda Guller doesn't have many games for him to play.

Arda Guller is one of the young players who has quite good talent and even we can see that his talent still attracts many clubs to sign him in the summer, I think if Madrid dare to give Arda Guller the opportunity to play like Lamine Yamal in Barcelona of course Arda Guller will be able to develop quickly and maybe become a Madrid star in the future,  In addition, if indeed Madrid dare not play Arda Guller just because of the pressure in the game, wouldn't it be better for Madrid to give Arda Guller the opportunity to develop his talent by loaning him to other club, so that Madrid will not lose his young player and can get a little money from interested clubs.

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April 26, 2024, 06:47:22 PM
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Arne Slot doesn't really sound like it would be too bad, I do not understand why "big name" manager thing is a talking point, Arne Slot has done great job so far and I believe that he would be a good manager for Liverpool.

What matters is that they should be considering the deal to be for long term, and if they know what they are doing then they could see him do a lot better with him building a team for his system. That's the problem with current teams, they hire a manager and before that manager installs his system to the team, they fire that manager for "failing", the manager usually doesn't get enough time to actually do something. I believe that we can't really make that type of change and we should consider getting a lot better results with better and better time.

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April 26, 2024, 06:48:03 PM
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Mauricio Pochetino don't forget isba failed manager, who couldn't win nothing with Lionel Messi, Neymar Junior and Kylian Mbappe as Paris Saint German Manager.

Mauricio Pochettino titles won when he was PSG coach:

1X French Champion

1X French Cup Winner

1X French SUPER Cup Winner

source: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/mauricio-pochettino/erfolge/trainer/9044

Many people criticize Pochettino, but before Pochettino there were good coaches at Chelsea who were fired, so what is wrong with Chelsea? because chelsea has been making ridiculous signings since the times of mourinho that chelsea started to fall, that's because in mourinho's time he added a lot of african players and made chelsea have a different style of play than what people were used to see, a style of play in which the most important thing was not to play well, but to come out of the game winning and when Chelsea weren't achieving good results, they fired Mourinho and other coaches who came to Chelsea, they didn't have much time to make big changes in the team. team that could create a good way for Chelsea to play, on the contrary, Chelsea's problems got worse because after Mourinho's departure they started making strange signings and spending a lot of money

Chelsea needs coaches like Xabi Alonso who can get good results even with teams that don't have big budgets, if Chelsea had managed to hire the Feyenoord coach for a long-term project, something like 5 years, they would have made a better choice at that time. but liverpool is already close to closing a deal with the Feyenoord coach.


It is not that I am against pochettino, but then listing his achievement in the French Ligue 1 is not resounding confidence that he is equal to the task in England. You can agree with me that even an average coach could also be successful coaching PSG. After all, winning the league one is their rite and the anyone could win it and even the players without a coach can still win the lique 1 title. I am not saying the Pochettino is not a good coach, but he is not in the category of Zidane, Guardiola and maybe Klopp.

I have always said that Chelsea problem does not lie on the coach. Chelsea has a problem or problems that is more than the coaching. The greater problem is with the management and seconded by problem with the players. Coaching problem is one of the least problems of Chelsea. So it is advisable that they should tackle all their problems and not only focus on dismissing and hiring coaches at will.

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April 26, 2024, 07:07:53 PM
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I have always said that Chelsea problem does not lie on the coach. Chelsea has a problem or problems that is more than the coaching.

Pretty sure that this is also what people say about Manchester United but you know the difference between Chelsea and Manchester United? Chelsea are far more inconsistent compared to Manchester United. Im gonna say it out loud, Manchester United sucks and yeah we sucks especially because we had a very incosistent defence line but with Chelsea the whole team is very inconsistent. They could win 4-0 today and lose 0-4 tomorrow so that is an issue that probably the coaching staff had right now so that responsibility lies with Poch

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April 26, 2024, 07:35:52 PM
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I have always said that Chelsea problem does not lie on the coach. Chelsea has a problem or problems that is more than the coaching.

Pretty sure that this is also what people say about Manchester United but you know the difference between Chelsea and Manchester United? Chelsea are far more inconsistent compared to Manchester United. Im gonna say it out loud, Manchester United sucks and yeah we sucks especially because we had a very incosistent defence line but with Chelsea the whole team is very inconsistent. They could win 4-0 today and lose 0-4 tomorrow so that is an issue that probably the coaching staff had right now so that responsibility lies with Poch
Well, I am not totally exonerating Pochettino, he obviously has a major job to do and when there's progress he would be praised, if the reverse happens, he should be blamed. Let's just check a recap of the recent Chelsea journey and their coaches. Chelsea is known as a club that readily sacks her coaches, but I will start from the time of Tuchel.
From Tuchel Graham Potter;
From Graham Potter Frank Lampard;
Lampard was an interim coach too;
Now to Pochettino;
Will it be right if we say all the above coaches are not good? Ofcourse there is more to the problems apart from coaching.

Even in Manchester United, you will see there's a problem with the scout team and player management. Manchester United buys players like;
1. Return of Ronaldo
2. Calvani
3. Casemiro
4. Evans
As against Madrid who buys players like;
Vinicius,
Valveder,
Camavinga,
Bellingham
Etc.

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April 26, 2024, 07:40:48 PM
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I think the problem in the Manchester United and Chelsea team is beyond the problem of a coach, Chelsea team especially has gotten too many managers in the last few years but they have only gone from bad to worse and right now I would suggest they don't go about getting a new manager to manage the team for team but they should be ready to open the door for some unserious players to leave the team because it will help to reduce the level of unseriousness in the team.
You're right. Man United and Chelsea have very complicated problems. Sure, it is not only about the manager (coach) but it is about the club management. There is something wrong with the management of Man United and Chelsea, they too often made the wrong decision in signing a new manager (coach). Man United/Chlesea management sometimes looked like trying their luck for a new coach, it is not a good way in managing a club. I think, the scout team of Man United/Chelsea should be changed or improved because they have the responsibility in determining a new coach or new players.

The current Chelsea coach would succeed in a club like Manchester City if he had gone there because the team has a lot of good players who are ready to put in their performance to ensure they get a good result in any game they play unlike what we see in the team of Chelsea and Manchester United were some of the players play like they are being forced to play. The management of the two clubs should not just get good coaches but they should get good players and let some players out of the team that's a good way to get the clubs back to where they belong.
Yep. Good coach and good players are both important. If the club only have good players but they have no good coach, they won't play in a proper way although they have quality players. The perfect example of this is Bayern Munich. Meanwhile if the club have good coach but have no quality players, the coach difficult to push the team to play in a better level. Barcelona is the example of this condition.


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April 26, 2024, 07:53:21 PM
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I have always said that Chelsea problem does not lie on the coach. Chelsea has a problem or problems that is more than the coaching.

Pretty sure that this is also what people say about Manchester United but you know the difference between Chelsea and Manchester United? Chelsea are far more inconsistent compared to Manchester United. Im gonna say it out loud, Manchester United sucks and yeah we sucks especially because we had a very incosistent defence line but with Chelsea the whole team is very inconsistent. They could win 4-0 today and lose 0-4 tomorrow so that is an issue that probably the coaching staff had right now so that responsibility lies with Poch
It's true, Chelsea problems seem more complex than Manchester United, but the similarity between the two clubs lies in the fact that they both experienced setbacks. Transfer of ownership is one of the main causes, adjustments in building a vision and mission with a new owner always take time, and of course many things have changed along the way. In my opinion, that is what happened with Chelsea this season, apart from that, management policy in building the squad meant that Chelsea did not develop as quickly as expected. Apart from that, Manchester United also experienced fundamental problems like Chelsea, where in my opinion the process of transitioning their leadership was actually more uncertain, before Jim Ratcliffe finally took over.

I think everyone involved in the club takes their respective roles to be responsible for the team decline, especially the manager. Just as success is celebrated together, so suffering is shared together. But to become title contenders next season, both Chelsea and Manchester United should change their managers, because many believe Ten Hag and Pochettino are not the right people.

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I think everyone involved in the club takes their respective roles to be responsible for the team decline, especially the manager. Just as success is celebrated together, so suffering is shared together. But to become title contenders next season, both Chelsea and Manchester United should change their managers, because many believe Ten Hag and Pochettino are not the right people.
I think the one who takes the biggest responsible is the sport director of the clubs, because they failed to put the right people in their positions that align with the plans and ambitions. Both Manchester United and Chelsea have big issue with their recruitment department considering many of their signing players perform under expectations after spending a lot of money. This is shown by the fact that their academy players have more contributions to the teams compered to new signing players.

Both clubs also have issues with their medical department. Constant injuries have hold the team back, many injuries could be avoidable if medical department work properly. All these fact show that the boards fail to put the right person for the role needed in the clubs. Manager can't work properly if they are not provided the right information and resources. However, manager are also responsible for the failing to adjust their decisions due to the situations.

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🚨 BREAKING: Arne Slot will be new Liverpool head coach replacing Jurgen Klopp at the end of the season!

Agreement sealed on compensation between Feyenoord and #LFC, all set also on contract details for Slot.

Here we go. 🇳🇱
https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1783945607075213644


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🔴🇳🇱 Arne Slot will be the most expensive Dutch coach ever as Liverpool will pay compensation fee around €13-15m.

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I am not excited by this appointment but I guess I will get behind him and support him.

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bruno Guimaraes can be sold by Newcastle this summer.

Many teams are on the player mainly Arsenal and Manchester City. The price tag for the player should be around €90m
Meanwhile Manchester United is increasing is interest on the Brazilian defender Bremer, actually in Juventus.
The price tag should be 65-70m€ for this one.

Manchester City would be interested, Arsenal are also rumoured to be interested in bringing the lad over, some fans have said he is too this and that but one thing they should have in mind is that it is not their personal used to purchase this lad and besides he is a quality midfielder' and would blend in well if they happen to sell of Thomas Partey next season

Manchester City asides him, also has plans for Jamal Musiala and Lucas Paqueta from West Ham United.

Bremer has been so solid for Juventus this season, bit the Premier League Competition would be much difficult andbi don't know how quickly he would settle in, but ye, Manchester United would need such a decent defender. I would love to see him patner up with Lisandro Martinez.

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April 26, 2024, 08:41:52 PM
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🚨 BREAKING: Arne Slot will be new Liverpool head coach replacing Jurgen Klopp at the end of the season!

Agreement sealed on compensation between Feyenoord and #LFC, all set also on contract details for Slot.

Here we go. 🇳🇱
https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1783945607075213644


@FabrizioRomano
🔴🇳🇱 Arne Slot will be the most expensive Dutch coach ever as Liverpool will pay compensation fee around €13-15m.

Details will be completed on paperworks over the weekend.
https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1783954080898924845



I am not excited by this appointment but I guess I will get behind him and support him.

Hm, I agree with you. I am not really sure what to think about that as I thought they would go for someone more established. Or someone who is more similar to the character of Jurgen Klopp. Klopp can be a volcano and he knew how to get the Liverpool fans heated up and going. I can't really have any prejudices though as I have no idea who this guy Arne Slot is except for the fact that he did well with Feyenoord. I am probably spoiled when it comes to coaches from the Netherlands as the first guy who comes to my mind is ten Hag and I think he is garbage as a coach.

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April 26, 2024, 09:00:03 PM
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It will be very interesting to see a new coach for the first time in a long time, especially after a pretty successful season. By successful I don't mean that they probably won't win the league, I mean that it's been an incredibly fruitful season, Klopp has built the squad very well and whether Liverpool can keep the bar set and perform even better next season is up to them
Liverpool was very close to winning the Premier League again this season, if a new coach joins them next season the expectations will be very high as the standards set by the present coach who is about to leave, and the new coach will be expected to win the premier league and the champions league. Some coaches may be scared at the high expectations, others intrigued by it that they will want the Job. There are quality players in Liverpool, if a new coach joins them, he will sell some players that he does not need in the team, and buy some players from other clubs, players that suite his style. With the many changes, it may be hard for Liverpool to win the premier league in the next season.

Objectively, Liverpool have 4 more matches left, the probability of things working out in such a way that they can win this season is extremely low even from a mathematical point of view. Arsenal still have a fighting chance if Manchester city lose a match or draw with someone. They still have a pretty good chance. Although Arsenal have tougher matches ahead of them than MC, I don't see a problem in winning, as they are stronger than all the opponents they will face at the moment

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I understand the Man United coaching saga. No doubt, Ferguson's departure has been difficult. Ten Hag is a good manager who hustles, but they just don't click. I think the scouts and dealmakers upstairs need to level up. United needs someone who understands that shirt's history and potential. Someone like Zidane or Conte with a track record and tactical brain can turn things around. I hate to say it, but change may unlock this team's potential.

Ten Hag may not belong at United. In football. A manager may thrive in a different atmosphere with a staff that suits them. Finding where you make the most difference is more important than ego. Trying a fresh challenge may be preferable for everyone if he can't crack Man United's code or develop a unit that fights for every win. Change benefits everyone sometimes.
Ten Hag is obviously not good for them currently as the team keeps slacking back and they do not stop looking confused on the pitch. All his implemented tactics and strategies aren't okay off well for him and it's safe to say that as the head of the team, he's got the greater part of the blame to bear. Also consider the coach being at fault because many times he'd make a new strategy which in the end doesn't work for them, and then thesame strategy will still be repeated in other games.

 Not just tactics, both player combinations. Why on earth would a coach still keep implementing a strategy that's failed and isn't even bulging to make corrections? He's the manager and the bigger responsibility is on his shoulder. His job is on the line and if he's been unserious about it, then he should be set to embrace a sack. They've got quality players in the team, he should be able to maximize these players.

 Zinedine Zidane would be a preferable option for them even as they're aimed towards bringing the history making boss to join the team next season. Yes, he said he's done with the managerial task with Madrid seasons ago but it won't be harmful either if he opts to play a role in the English team's growth. United themselves know how much of a good impact his presence would bring and so by all means necessary they'd want to bring the tactical boss to their side. At thesame time, watch how much of a positive difference he would make for the team. It'll testifyingly be the best decision they'd ever make though so far. But let's hold on to that whilst watching if they'd be able to make the boss join them.

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April 26, 2024, 09:13:45 PM
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bruno Guimaraes can be sold by Newcastle this summer.

Many teams are on the player mainly Arsenal and Manchester City. The price tag for the player should be around €90m
Meanwhile Manchester United is increasing is interest on the Brazilian defender Bremer, actually in Juventus.
The price tag should be 65-70m€ for this one.
According to his statistics bruno Guimaraes was played 32 times during this season which mean he was being an Newcastle key player because Eddie Howe was playing him for almost every matches in Premier League and actually Newcastle previously doesn't want to sell him because they feel bruno Guimaraes is important player for them but because Newcastle fear to gets FFP sanction so they were decide to sell Guimaraes and there are several clubs who showing their interest to Guimaraes such as Manchester City, Arsenal, Manchester United or even Liverpool

It says Newcastle demand 100 millions for Guimaraes and apparently Manchester United in the front line to gets Guimaraes and they looks very serious want bought him and this summer they will attempts to make a bid for Guimaraes and why Manchester United is really want this player because Ten Hag feel Guimaraes is very suitable as the replacement of Casemiro who possibly will leave Manchester United and go to Saudi Pro League besides that Guimaraes already know the atmosphere of Premier League so it's not difficult for him to adapt with Manchester United later

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Objectively, Liverpool have 4 more matches left, the probability of things working out in such a way that they can win this season is extremely low even from a mathematical point of view. Arsenal still have a fighting chance if Manchester city lose a match or draw with someone. They still have a pretty good chance. Although Arsenal have tougher matches ahead of them than MC, I don't see a problem in winning, as they are stronger than all the opponents they will face at the moment
Liverpool’s performances in their previous matches is the main reason why people gave up on them this season, if not they still have slim chance of winning the Premier League title just as Arsenal and Manchester City have.
Mathematically, if Arsenal and Manchester city can lose match while Liverpool win their next match, they will have another chance to see if they can win the Premier League title, but I don’t think Arsenal will afford to lose any match now. Manchester City and Arsenal will try everything possible to win almost all their remaining matches in the Premier League, but we all know that there is a tendency for any of them to drop point along the line, and anyone of them that drop point along the line, they should just say goodbye to the Premier League title this season.

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Objectively, Liverpool have 4 more matches left, the probability of things working out in such a way that they can win this season is extremely low even from a mathematical point of view. Arsenal still have a fighting chance if Manchester city lose a match or draw with someone. They still have a pretty good chance. Although Arsenal have tougher matches ahead of them than MC, I don't see a problem in winning, as they are stronger than all the opponents they will face at the moment
I agree that the chance for Liverpool to win EPL title is smaller now. Liverpool has wasted the chance for 3 points in 2 matches. They are defeated by Crystal Palace and Everton in the last 3 matches. I don't understand why Liverpool could lose full points in these matches. Liverpool may too underestimate their opponents, so they choose the wrong lineups on those matches.

Arsenal and Man City are competing for the title now. I think Man City has a better chance because they are more experienced team to deal with this situation. I just hope both Arsenal and Man City won't do the same mistake as Liverpool.

Anyway, this should be in EPL thread.  Grin

It says Newcastle demand 100 millions for Guimaraes and apparently Manchester United in the front line to gets Guimaraes and they looks very serious want bought him and this summer they will attempts to make a bid for Guimaraes and why Manchester United is really want this player because Ten Hag feel Guimaraes is very suitable as the replacement of Casemiro who possibly will leave Manchester United and go to Saudi Pro League besides that Guimaraes already know the atmosphere of Premier League so it's not difficult for him to adapt with Manchester United later
The market value of Guimaraes is only around €85m. I think it is too expensive if Newcastle expects for €100m. Man United must think again if they want to sign Guimaraes with €100m. It is better to keep Casemiro than signing Guimaraes with €100m. Although Guimaraes is a top player, he still can't prove it with trophy in his current team.


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🚨 BREAKING: Arne Slot will be new Liverpool head coach replacing Jurgen Klopp at the end of the season!

Agreement sealed on compensation between Feyenoord and #LFC, all set also on contract details for Slot.

Here we go. 🇳🇱
https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1783945607075213644


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🔴🇳🇱 Arne Slot will be the most expensive Dutch coach ever as Liverpool will pay compensation fee around €13-15m.

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https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1783954080898924845



I am not excited by this appointment but I guess I will get behind him and support him.

I had way different candidates in my mind honestly. So I must say that I'm surprised to hear about Liverpool's choice. Arne Slot has had a good run with Feyenoord so far. However he doesn't have any Premier League history.

It is really difficult to predict what he can do with Liverpool for now as a result. It isn't easy to fill the space of a coach like Klopp. However I don't want to be prejudiced. There are some Dutch players in the squad too so maybe they can help Arne Slot adapt quicker.  Smiley

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April 26, 2024, 09:59:27 PM
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🚨 BREAKING: Arne Slot will be new Liverpool head coach replacing Jurgen Klopp at the end of the season!

Agreement sealed on compensation between Feyenoord and #LFC, all set also on contract details for Slot.

Here we go. 🇳🇱
https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1783945607075213644

Arne this season did a very good job at Feyenoord which might be a consideration that he could be a good replacement for Klopp but honestly for this time as long as I haven't seen him at Liverpool I am still quite doubtful about his abilities.
Honestly I rarely see the Eredivisie except for a few matches and indeed a good situation in the Eredivisie does not necessarily end well in the EPL because the competition is still quite different in terms of quality but indeed when Liverpool have made their choice then we only need to see if Arne can really be the answer for Liverpool next season.

In addition, talking about the coach, it is certain that this will also not be separated from the news of Salah because if I remember correctly Salah allows extending the contract if his position is guaranteed and he must know who his future coach is. Now the future coach has been answered for Liverpool. the question is whether Salah will continue to extend the contract or look for new club options where he is also still in demand by clubs in the SPL.

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I had way different candidates in my mind honestly. So I must say that I'm surprised to hear about Liverpool's choice. Arne Slot has had a good run with Feyenoord so far. However he doesn't have any Premier League history.

It is really difficult to predict what he can do with Liverpool for now as a result. It isn't easy to fill the space of a coach like Klopp. However I don't want to be prejudiced. There are some Dutch players in the squad too so maybe they can help Arne Slot adapt quicker.  Smiley

I think this decision so early by Liverpool to me is perfect, they were actually after Rúben Amorim the Sporting Lisbon manager but his signature is looking to be a headache for them as even the likes of West Ham United also interested, I love the way Liverpool switch which stretching much in there and possibly end up wasting their time. Arne Slot has done a great job at Feyenoord but he will definitely be under pressure to manage Liverpool. This is in no way associated to the reason that he hasn’t managed any premier league club before even the Klopp himself who left a legacy here came without any premier league experience with Dortmund his biggest club managed. But yet he delivered with the support he had.

So right now what Liverpool fans need is to give him their support and not put him under any early pressure for success it might be a bit tough at first because he also coming to meet a shattered team that needs rebuilding

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even though Ten Hag had to be fired, actually expecting Xavi to join Man United is impossible and maybe you missed the important news that Xavi will officially stay for another season with Barcelona.
No, I didn't miss that news. I have read and said that coach Xavi's choice to continue to stay in Barcelona was a mistake. Xavi forgot all the pain and pressure that Barcelona caused him. I'm afraid that pain will continue next season when Barcelona's situation is not optimistic. I'm sad for a talent like him, and I'm afraid Barcelona will ruin Xavi's life as a coach. He is both a good player and a talented coach. But his love for Barcelona trumped his wisdom. Let's take a look at the legendary coaches. The first thing to invite them to coach that team, of course, is to give him a considerable amount of money to spend on player purchases. Being a good coach, of course, requires having ace players in hand.

MU's opportunity to get Xavi is not yet over. Or recruit him and give him some money to buy players. It's just as simple as that. Let the talented Xavi take care of everything else.
however, this has been a wise decision that has been made by Xavi and in fact it is very sad to see that Xavi, a coach who is intelligent and has excellent skills in managing players on a popular team, has to continue to support himself in a team that can no longer develop due to problems. financial.
but what Xavi did this time should really open all Barcelona eyes to admit that Xavi should be respected and considered a hero for Barcelona.
the efforts that Xavi is currently making only feel depressed if he sees that Barcelona is going down the drain of losing such a reliable coach and decides to wait for Barcelona to get a new coach who is equal to Xavi.

Instead of having to wait for Xavi, Man United could still get another experienced coach and without me saying, we have all speculated that Man United would at least try to find an alternative like Mourinho.

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