VERITASEUM DISCUSSION THREAD

[paulmaritz]

In other words: You are confident that others will like you, only see what they want to see. I yet have to meet another person that is as subjective and against hardware wallets such as yourself.  

I am a VERY objective person.


If you think Trezor is the best, so be it to you.
It's not my concern anyway.

Your perspective, your assumptions. Just because you say so, doesn't make it the truth.

P.S. God forbid the day when a hardware wallet rubs you the wrong way!

[paulmaritz]

I don't trust "Trezor too much," but I am sorry to say, to claim that your method is superior is simply not based on facts.

I have nothing further to say to you about this. There is no need for any writeup about my method.

I will ask someone that is more objective and not against hardware wallets by default.

A person that is against hardware wallets by default is a very subjective, biased, prejudiced, inferior, and unintelligent person.
I am not such person.

"Your perspective, your assumptions."

[Dorky]

"Your perspective, your assumptions."

I am not subjective, but you are.

"I've learned that while it is  not completely bullet proof, especially under certain circumstances - just like with your method"

1. Would you be kind enough to explain precisely under what circumstances are hardware wallets not bullet proof?
2. And explain to me what/which circumstances do you think will negatively affect my method that wouldn't do the same to hardware wallets?

[Jeffrey_memb]

What exactly is veritaseum? I dont understand it for now

[timmyzhl]

Is this an old coin? I heard it for the first time. Which platform is the main deal?

[paulmaritz]

"Your perspective, your assumptions."

I am not subjective, but you are.

"I've learned that while it is  not completely bullet proof, especially under certain circumstances - just like with your method"

1. Would you be kind enough to explain precisely under what circumstances are hardware wallets not bullet proof?
2. And explain to me what/which circumstances do you think will negatively affect my method that wouldn't do the same to hardware wallets?

1. It is not bullet proof in the sense that if someone uses their Trezor wallet in a careless manner, they stand to lose all of their private keys (as you've pointed out). I've also heard that there is going to be an official event where Trezor will be scrutinized to the MAX. Nothing is set in stone yet, but word is out that there might be a way(s) for hackers to compromise a Trezor wallet even if a user is not careless.

2. If you read all of what I posted, you will already know the answer to this question. E.g. as per the source you provided: "Used correctly, an air-gapped wallet is safe from all online threats, such as viruses and hackers. It is however still exposed to offline threats, such as hardware keyloggers, extortion, or people looking over your shoulder."

In any case, I rest my case. Onto better things like VERI! 

[paulmaritz]

What exactly is veritaseum? I dont understand it for now

Veritaseum, a company, enables software-driven P2P capital markets without brokerages, banks or traditional exchanges. Veritas (VERI) are the tokens needed to access the software.

[paulmaritz]

E.g. Veritas (VERI) can be used to buy research reports from Veritaseum: http://veritas.veritaseum.com/index.php/research-center/category/2-research

[paulmaritz]

What Does a Veritas Purchase Do? It Provides the Keys to the Peer-to-Peer Economy!: https://youtu.be/0k13dgd44mw

[Dorky]

2. If you read all of what I posted, you will already know the answer to this question. E.g. as per the source you provided: "Used correctly, an air-gapped wallet is safe from all online threats, such as viruses and hackers. It is however still exposed to offline threats, such as hardware keyloggers, extortion, or people looking over your shoulder."

Friend, that's why we need the computer to be formatted (as stated in the beginning) first to clear it off all viruses/malwares/keyloggers before using it.
Besides, my method is derived from that wiki guidelines, but simplified (as stated earlier too).
And we are supposed to secure the savings in a very private setting where absolutely nobody (except the ones you want to share your savings with) is around, thus people looking over your shoulder is a non-issue.

[paulmaritz]

2. If you read all of what I posted, you will already know the answer to this question. E.g. as per the source you provided: "Used correctly, an air-gapped wallet is safe from all online threats, such as viruses and hackers. It is however still exposed to offline threats, such as hardware keyloggers, extortion, or people looking over your shoulder."

Friend, that's why we need the computer to be formatted (as stated in the beginning) first to clear it off all viruses/malwares/keyloggers before using it.
Besides, my method is derived from that wiki guidelines, but simplified (as stated earlier too).
And we are supposed to secure the savings in a very private setting where absolutely nobody (except the ones you want to share your savings with) is around, thus people looking over your shoulder is a non-issue.

Tell that to your source. I quoted them.

[Jeffrey_memb]

Why Veritaseum is raising? Is it scam? No one knows about it.
no exchange only etherdelta?

Strange

[heymann]

Why Veritaseum is raising? Is it scam? No one knows about it.
no exchange only etherdelta?

Strange

That's what makes the current situation the opportunity.  If you can figure out etherdelta, you have great advantage over others waiting for VERI to appear on a major exchange.  People are figuring it out ahead of you, so the race is on for peeps to figure it out, the reward is $.

As for the scam comment, suggest you do some research to see if you still come to that conclusion.  Still waiting for proof from all the detractors that VERI is untruthful.  Bonne chance mon ami.

To Dorky and Paul.  Nice debate, keeping things civil.  While I have a Trezor and trust it, I do need to keep reminding myself that the blockchain is the ultimate arbiter, as long as private keys are secured.  Both approaches you guys outlined for security make sense to me.

[paulmaritz]

Why Veritaseum is raising? Is it scam? No one knows about it.
no exchange only etherdelta?

Strange

Veritaseum is not a scam. It is a company with huge potential.  

The price of VERI tokens (Veritas) is rising because of various factors, including the following:

1. "1st Implementation of Capital Markets Blockchain Tech | Most Disruptive Business Model in the Industry | Most Monumental Tech Paradigm Shift Since the Internet"

2. Update from Reggie Middleton – Veritaseum is taking Jamaica to the Next Level! (June 30, 2017): http://www.cryptocoinupdates.com/update-from-reggie-middleton-veritaseum-is-
    taking-jamaica-to-the-next-level/

3. Veritas.PanCarib: What the Euro Would Look Like If It Actually Worked?: http://veritas.veritaseum.com/index.php/21-veritas-pancarib-what-would-the-euro-look-like-if-it-actually-
    worked

4. World-class research and valuation reports that form part of the value proposition – available through the redemption of VERI tokens:
    http://veritas.veritaseum.com/index.php/research-center

5. The track record, hard work and dedication of Reggie and his team. E.g. they made accurate forecasts pertaining to major economic events (the collapse of Bear Stearns, Lehman
    Brothers, etc.), delivered a working product that was already in BETA in 2013, etc.

6. Total Supply: 100,000,000 VERI
    Circulating Supply: 1,967,545 VERI

    The remaining 98,000,000 or so are only available to entities such as large private clients, institutions and sovereigns. These tokens are distributed to be used in
    the machine itself and will not be available for public trading. It ties in with CoinMarketCap's way of reflecting supply and prices: http://coinmarketcap.com/faq/

7. Despite numerous attempts to have VERI listed at other crypto exchanges, nothing has come of it yet. They have been ignoring the requests of both Veritaseum and VERI
    holders for most part.

8. Major crypto publications, for some reason or another, have so far chosen not to report on the progress made.

9. An increasing number of people are waking up to the potential of cryptos in general.

I can continue, but I am sure you get the idea.  

[Jeffrey_memb]

Why Veritaseum is raising? Is it scam? No one knows about it.
no exchange only etherdelta?

Strange

That's what makes the current situation the opportunity.  If you can figure out etherdelta, you have great advantage over others waiting for VERI to appear on a major exchange.  People are figuring it out ahead of you, so the race is on for peeps to figure it out, the reward is $.

As for the scam comment, suggest you do some research to see if you still come to that conclusion.  Still waiting for proof from all the detractors that VERI is untruthful.  Bonne chance mon ami.

To Dorky and Paul.  Nice debate, keeping things civil.  While I have a Trezor and trust it, I do need to keep reminding myself that the blockchain is the ultimate arbiter, as long as private keys are secured.  Both approaches you guys outlined for security make sense to me.

You are just a VERITAS SHILL. All your postings you evermade where for veritas.

I still dont understand what a sense make holding this token? Will i get something?

[heymann]

Why Veritaseum is raising? Is it scam? No one knows about it.
no exchange only etherdelta?

Strange

That's what makes the current situation the opportunity.  If you can figure out etherdelta, you have great advantage over others waiting for VERI to appear on a major exchange.  People are figuring it out ahead of you, so the race is on for peeps to figure it out, the reward is $.

As for the scam comment, suggest you do some research to see if you still come to that conclusion.  Still waiting for proof from all the detractors that VERI is untruthful.  Bonne chance mon ami.

To Dorky and Paul.  Nice debate, keeping things civil.  While I have a Trezor and trust it, I do need to keep reminding myself that the blockchain is the ultimate arbiter, as long as private keys are secured.  Both approaches you guys outlined for security make sense to me.

You are just a VERITAS SHILL. All your postings you evermade where for veritas.

I still dont understand what a sense make holding this token? Will i get something?

Name calling is the sign of a lesser intellect.  Congrats.  Do you denigrate your investments?  let's talk facts, you are all about accusations and suppositions

[paulmaritz]

Why Veritaseum is raising? Is it scam? No one knows about it.
no exchange only etherdelta?

Strange

That's what makes the current situation the opportunity.  If you can figure out etherdelta, you have great advantage over others waiting for VERI to appear on a major exchange.  People are figuring it out ahead of you, so the race is on for peeps to figure it out, the reward is $.

As for the scam comment, suggest you do some research to see if you still come to that conclusion.  Still waiting for proof from all the detractors that VERI is untruthful.  Bonne chance mon ami.

To Dorky and Paul.  Nice debate, keeping things civil.  While I have a Trezor and trust it, I do need to keep reminding myself that the blockchain is the ultimate arbiter, as long as private keys are secured.  Both approaches you guys outlined for security make sense to me.

You are just a VERITAS SHILL. All your postings you evermade where for veritas.

I still dont understand what a sense make holding this token? Will i get something?

VERI is not for you. Holding it will have zero benefit to you. Don't waste your time. Move on.

[Jeffrey_memb]

Why Veritaseum is raising? Is it scam? No one knows about it.
no exchange only etherdelta?

Strange

That's what makes the current situation the opportunity.  If you can figure out etherdelta, you have great advantage over others waiting for VERI to appear on a major exchange.  People are figuring it out ahead of you, so the race is on for peeps to figure it out, the reward is $.

As for the scam comment, suggest you do some research to see if you still come to that conclusion.  Still waiting for proof from all the detractors that VERI is untruthful.  Bonne chance mon ami.

To Dorky and Paul.  Nice debate, keeping things civil.  While I have a Trezor and trust it, I do need to keep reminding myself that the blockchain is the ultimate arbiter, as long as private keys are secured.  Both approaches you guys outlined for security make sense to me.

You are just a VERITAS SHILL. All your postings you evermade where for veritas.

I still dont understand what a sense make holding this token? Will i get something?

VERI is not for you. Holding it will have zero benefit to you. Don't waste your time. Move on.

Than what else instead of holding it?

I have 600 of this but only because I bought for arround 25ETH and today saw it raises. Now I dont know if hold or sell

[paulmaritz]

Why Veritaseum is raising? Is it scam? No one knows about it.
no exchange only etherdelta?

Strange

That's what makes the current situation the opportunity.  If you can figure out etherdelta, you have great advantage over others waiting for VERI to appear on a major exchange.  People are figuring it out ahead of you, so the race is on for peeps to figure it out, the reward is $.

As for the scam comment, suggest you do some research to see if you still come to that conclusion.  Still waiting for proof from all the detractors that VERI is untruthful.  Bonne chance mon ami.

To Dorky and Paul.  Nice debate, keeping things civil.  While I have a Trezor and trust it, I do need to keep reminding myself that the blockchain is the ultimate arbiter, as long as private keys are secured.  Both approaches you guys outlined for security make sense to me.

You are just a VERITAS SHILL. All your postings you evermade where for veritas.

I still dont understand what a sense make holding this token? Will i get something?

VERI is not for you. Holding it will have zero benefit to you. Don't waste your time. Move on.

Than what else instead of holding it?

I have 600 of this but only because I bought for arround 25ETH and today saw it raises. Now I dont know if hold or sell

You will have to make that decision yourself.

[Jeffrey_memb]

What can the Token?