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July 20, 2017, 10:35:33 PM
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Evolution as a concept is not a hoax, maybe human evolution is, but it's clear that even from the stone age we have improved.
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July 21, 2017, 11:31:34 AM
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How did humans get here on EARTH..

1 we evolved because the EARTH made us this way..

2 Aliens some how put us here..

3 a man like being went ZAP and everything was so ..

Can only be 3 outcomes..

Imagine a germ flying through space lands on a rock I.E our earth and then we humans come along..

We still evolved from this planet because with the different weather patterns and environmental changes we evolved to look like what we are today..

With a different environment who knows we might look so much different ?..
Still might be humanoid but look so much different ..

So only can be 3 outcomes to how we come to be..

And 1 of the outcomes is called EVOLUTION THEORIES ..

How did we evolved on this planet = EVOLUTION ..

So now you can make your choice 1   2  OR 3 what is your choice .. Wink

I choose the earth made us because of DNA proves the fact even more so..

1. Evolution is scientifically impossible.

2. Where did the aliens come from? Were they created or did they evolve? Remember, evolution is impossible.

3. We see that mankind can't make any living thing from something inanimate. Therefore, it can't be some manlike being.


God created all things, and made man, as well.

Cool

1.Prove it

2.They always existed like god

3.Abiogenesis



1. Simply Google many forms of "Is evolution impossible?" The results might have been talked around by evolutionists. But the the proofs that evolution is impossible have never been rebutted.

2. The vast complexity of the universe shows that if there were more than one being that created it, they were acting in such "tight" concert, that they were acting as one. One God.

3. Are you stating that man created abiogenesis? Man might have created the word "abiogenesis." But man never made actual abiogenesis work.

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1. I did and all of them are refuted, like I refuted them here and you couldn't even answer to them lol

2. I don't know how you think complexity shows any of that, mind explaining?

3. Im stating that there are successful experiments where they have created organic molecules from non living matter.

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July 21, 2017, 01:38:22 PM
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3. Im stating that there are successful experiments where they have created organic molecules from non living matter.

Would this imply that it required intelligent intention to make it happen ? Smiley

Or do we see this happening "naturally" without willingfull intention ? Smiley

Like you can have abiogenesis happening in your toilet ?

It doesnt look like a process that happen naturally so commonly.

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July 21, 2017, 01:53:53 PM
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How did humans get here on EARTH..

1 we evolved because the EARTH made us this way..

2 Aliens some how put us here..

3 a man like being went ZAP and everything was so ..

Can only be 3 outcomes..

Imagine a germ flying through space lands on a rock I.E our earth and then we humans come along..

We still evolved from this planet because with the different weather patterns and environmental changes we evolved to look like what we are today..

With a different environment who knows we might look so much different ?..
Still might be humanoid but look so much different ..

So only can be 3 outcomes to how we come to be..

And 1 of the outcomes is called EVOLUTION THEORIES ..

How did we evolved on this planet = EVOLUTION ..

So now you can make your choice 1   2  OR 3 what is your choice .. Wink

I choose the earth made us because of DNA proves the fact even more so..

1. Evolution is scientifically impossible.

2. Where did the aliens come from? Were they created or did they evolve? Remember, evolution is impossible.

3. We see that mankind can't make any living thing from something inanimate. Therefore, it can't be some manlike being.


God created all things, and made man, as well.

Cool

1.Prove it

2.They always existed like god

3.Abiogenesis



1. Simply Google many forms of "Is evolution impossible?" The results might have been talked around by evolutionists. But the the proofs that evolution is impossible have never been rebutted.

2. The vast complexity of the universe shows that if there were more than one being that created it, they were acting in such "tight" concert, that they were acting as one. One God.

3. Are you stating that man created abiogenesis? Man might have created the word "abiogenesis." But man never made actual abiogenesis work.

Cool

1. I did and all of them are refuted, like I refuted them here and you couldn't even answer to them lol

2. I don't know how you think complexity shows any of that, mind explaining?

3. Im stating that there are successful experiments where they have created organic molecules from non living matter.

1. There is nothing to answer. All, 100%, of the things that you talk about can be shown to be part of at least 1 operation other than evolution. None of them are proven to support evolution. None of them answer the probability point.

2. The GM company is one company. Yet it has many people and robots working for it. Together they make cars. If they tried to make cars without one goal in mind, they wouldn't be able to make them. Cars are too complex to be built with everyone deciding on his own course of action. They think together as one. They act together as one. They are one... one company. If they didn't work like this, the only cars we would have would be the ones that an individual can individually make.

The universe is almost infinitely more complex than a car. Even if there were many makers of the universe and nature and everything in it, they acted together. One God.

The Bible shows us that there is one God. Yet there are three persons in that God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). And there are the 7 Spirits of God (Revelations). But God is one God.

3. There are big differences between making organic molecules in the lab, simply manipulating some organic parts to make other organic parts, and making life. Making organic molecules in the lab is simply a form of intelligent design. All it points at in nature is an Intelligent Designer.


Evolution doesn't exist. It is impossible. The whole story of evolution is a science fiction story. Getting people to believe it is causing them to fall for a hoax.

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July 21, 2017, 02:16:17 PM
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A simple thing to show where I want to get at can be seen with the processus of sterilization .

We know that if we steriliize something, and isolate it from the world, it will be kept more or less intact, minus oxydation, or simple chemical reactions. Even if it contain already organic molecules more advanced than what we would find in the "primordial soup".

If abiogenesis would be so common, sterilization would be useless.

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July 21, 2017, 02:22:51 PM
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A simple thing to show where I want to get at can be seen with the processus of sterilization .

We know that if we steriliize something, and isolate it from the world, it will be kept more or less intact, minus oxydation, or simple chemical reactions. Even if it contain already organic molecules more advanced than what we would find in the "primordial soup".

If abiogenesis would be so common, sterilization would be useless.

No one said it's common. It happened a long time ago where everything was different, that's why scientists tried to recreate all the variables. It's a small step in the right direction. Of course you people are never happy, you want them to actually create humans in 1 day. It's not that simple.

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July 21, 2017, 02:24:40 PM
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How did humans get here on EARTH..

1 we evolved because the EARTH made us this way..

2 Aliens some how put us here..

3 a man like being went ZAP and everything was so ..

Can only be 3 outcomes..

Imagine a germ flying through space lands on a rock I.E our earth and then we humans come along..

We still evolved from this planet because with the different weather patterns and environmental changes we evolved to look like what we are today..

With a different environment who knows we might look so much different ?..
Still might be humanoid but look so much different ..

So only can be 3 outcomes to how we come to be..

And 1 of the outcomes is called EVOLUTION THEORIES ..

How did we evolved on this planet = EVOLUTION ..

So now you can make your choice 1   2  OR 3 what is your choice .. Wink

I choose the earth made us because of DNA proves the fact even more so..

1. Evolution is scientifically impossible.

2. Where did the aliens come from? Were they created or did they evolve? Remember, evolution is impossible.

3. We see that mankind can't make any living thing from something inanimate. Therefore, it can't be some manlike being.


God created all things, and made man, as well.

Cool

1.Prove it

2.They always existed like god

3.Abiogenesis



1. Simply Google many forms of "Is evolution impossible?" The results might have been talked around by evolutionists. But the the proofs that evolution is impossible have never been rebutted.

2. The vast complexity of the universe shows that if there were more than one being that created it, they were acting in such "tight" concert, that they were acting as one. One God.

3. Are you stating that man created abiogenesis? Man might have created the word "abiogenesis." But man never made actual abiogenesis work.

Cool

1. I did and all of them are refuted, like I refuted them here and you couldn't even answer to them lol

2. I don't know how you think complexity shows any of that, mind explaining?

3. Im stating that there are successful experiments where they have created organic molecules from non living matter.

1. There is nothing to answer. All, 100%, of the things that you talk about can be shown to be part of at least 1 operation other than evolution. None of them are proven to support evolution. None of them answer the probability point.

2. The GM company is one company. Yet it has many people and robots working for it. Together they make cars. If they tried to make cars without one goal in mind, they wouldn't be able to make them. Cars are too complex to be built with everyone deciding on his own course of action. They think together as one. They act together as one. They are one... one company. If they didn't work like this, the only cars we would have would be the ones that an individual can individually make.

The universe is almost infinitely more complex than a car. Even if there were many makers of the universe and nature and everything in it, they acted together. One God.

The Bible shows us that there is one God. Yet there are three persons in that God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). And there are the 7 Spirits of God (Revelations). But God is one God.

3. There are big differences between making organic molecules in the lab, simply manipulating some organic parts to make other organic parts, and making life. Making organic molecules in the lab is simply a form of intelligent design. All it points at in nature is an Intelligent Designer.


Evolution doesn't exist. It is impossible. The whole story of evolution is a science fiction story. Getting people to believe it is causing them to fall for a hoax.

Cool

1.Literally all your arguments were debunked. The probability argument was shown to be wrong because of how it was calculated, did you not understand that part either?

2.Ehm ok? So you admit that it can be different makers. One company... full of people LOL. All the other religions also shows us there is a God, how is that useful?

3.There are yet it was done, you always claim it's impossible.

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For me it's similar to pow in bitcoin  Grin

Usually as well geometry and linear algebra I understand quickly, but statistic could never really make sense to me.

But it's when shelby started to post about game theory, it occured to me how statistic can translate to"energy" or work.

In the case of dna & cell, we see it's still small statstics , and even with all our intelligence we struggle to create it.

It's same than hash power, even if the good hash is meaningless, and it's all statistic, if you want to create 20 good block in a row, it require determined high computing power. And you never get 20 good blocks in a row "by chance".

To me it's bit the same with dna  Grin

DNA = proof of intelligent work  Grin

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For me it's similar to pow in bitcoin  Grin

Usually as well geometry and linear algebra I understand quickly, but statistic could never really make sense to me.

But it's when shelby started to post about game theory, it occured to me how statistic can translate to"energy" or work.

In the case of dna & cell, we see it's still small statstics , and even with all our intelligence we struggle to create it.

It's same than hash power, even if the good hash is meaningless, and it's all statistic, if you want to create 20 good block in a row, it require determined high computing power. And you never get 20 good blocks in a row "by chance".

To me it's bit the same with dna  Grin

DNA = proof of intelligent work  Grin

Thankfully your opinion is meaningless for the scientific community. If you have a good theory you can always publish it in any scientific journal. You don't need 20 good mutations in a row by the way.

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2. The GM company is one company. Yet it has many people and robots working for it. Together they make cars. If they tried to make cars without one goal in mind, they wouldn't be able to make them. Cars are too complex to be built with everyone deciding on his own course of action. They think together as one. They act together as one. They are one... one company. If they didn't work like this, the only cars we would have would be the ones that an individual can individually make.

The universe is almost infinitely more complex than a car. Even if there were many makers of the universe and nature and everything in it, they acted together. One God.


Did you read liebniz monadology ?  Smiley

For me it was last nail on the coffin of my atheism Smiley

It's also that sort of argument, but he is logic genius, and push this reasoning much further, with physics etc in the optimal universe theory Smiley

Cannot be atheist mathematician after reading the monadology.

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For me it's similar to pow in bitcoin  Grin

Usually as well geometry and linear algebra I understand quickly, but statistic could never really make sense to me.

But it's when shelby started to post about game theory, it occured to me how statistic can translate to"energy" or work.

In the case of dna & cell, we see it's still small statstics , and even with all our intelligence we struggle to create it.

It's same than hash power, even if the good hash is meaningless, and it's all statistic, if you want to create 20 good block in a row, it require determined high computing power. And you never get 20 good blocks in a row "by chance".

To me it's bit the same with dna  Grin

DNA = proof of intelligent work  Grin

Thankfully your opinion is meaningless for the scientific community. If you have a good theory you can always publish it in any scientific journal. You don't need 20 good mutations in a row by the way.

More like 2 billions.

Your opinion is probably meaningless to anyone but your scientific community btw.

If you have a good troll, you can always post it on the forum.

My 2 cents are free  Grin

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For me it's similar to pow in bitcoin  Grin

Usually as well geometry and linear algebra I understand quickly, but statistic could never really make sense to me.

But it's when shelby started to post about game theory, it occured to me how statistic can translate to"energy" or work.

In the case of dna & cell, we see it's still small statstics , and even with all our intelligence we struggle to create it.

It's same than hash power, even if the good hash is meaningless, and it's all statistic, if you want to create 20 good block in a row, it require determined high computing power. And you never get 20 good blocks in a row "by chance".

To me it's bit the same with dna  Grin

DNA = proof of intelligent work  Grin

Thankfully your opinion is meaningless for the scientific community. If you have a good theory you can always publish it in any scientific journal. You don't need 20 good mutations in a row by the way.

More like 2 billions.

Your opinion is probably meaningless to anyone but your scientific community btw.

If you have a good troll, you can always post it on the forum.

My 2 cents are free  Grin

2 billions what

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How did humans get here on EARTH..

1 we evolved because the EARTH made us this way..

2 Aliens some how put us here..

3 a man like being went ZAP and everything was so ..

Can only be 3 outcomes..

Imagine a germ flying through space lands on a rock I.E our earth and then we humans come along..

We still evolved from this planet because with the different weather patterns and environmental changes we evolved to look like what we are today..

With a different environment who knows we might look so much different ?..
Still might be humanoid but look so much different ..

So only can be 3 outcomes to how we come to be..

And 1 of the outcomes is called EVOLUTION THEORIES ..

How did we evolved on this planet = EVOLUTION ..

So now you can make your choice 1   2  OR 3 what is your choice .. Wink

I choose the earth made us because of DNA proves the fact even more so..

1. Evolution is scientifically impossible.

2. Where did the aliens come from? Were they created or did they evolve? Remember, evolution is impossible.

3. We see that mankind can't make any living thing from something inanimate. Therefore, it can't be some manlike being.


God created all things, and made man, as well.

Cool

1.Prove it

2.They always existed like god

3.Abiogenesis



1. Simply Google many forms of "Is evolution impossible?" The results might have been talked around by evolutionists. But the the proofs that evolution is impossible have never been rebutted.

2. The vast complexity of the universe shows that if there were more than one being that created it, they were acting in such "tight" concert, that they were acting as one. One God.

3. Are you stating that man created abiogenesis? Man might have created the word "abiogenesis." But man never made actual abiogenesis work.

Cool

1. I did and all of them are refuted, like I refuted them here and you couldn't even answer to them lol

2. I don't know how you think complexity shows any of that, mind explaining?

3. Im stating that there are successful experiments where they have created organic molecules from non living matter.

1. There is nothing to answer. All, 100%, of the things that you talk about can be shown to be part of at least 1 operation other than evolution. None of them are proven to support evolution. None of them answer the probability point.

2. The GM company is one company. Yet it has many people and robots working for it. Together they make cars. If they tried to make cars without one goal in mind, they wouldn't be able to make them. Cars are too complex to be built with everyone deciding on his own course of action. They think together as one. They act together as one. They are one... one company. If they didn't work like this, the only cars we would have would be the ones that an individual can individually make.

The universe is almost infinitely more complex than a car. Even if there were many makers of the universe and nature and everything in it, they acted together. One God.

The Bible shows us that there is one God. Yet there are three persons in that God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). And there are the 7 Spirits of God (Revelations). But God is one God.

3. There are big differences between making organic molecules in the lab, simply manipulating some organic parts to make other organic parts, and making life. Making organic molecules in the lab is simply a form of intelligent design. All it points at in nature is an Intelligent Designer.


Evolution doesn't exist. It is impossible. The whole story of evolution is a science fiction story. Getting people to believe it is causing them to fall for a hoax.

Cool

1.Literally all your arguments were debunked. The probability argument was shown to be wrong because of how it was calculated, did you not understand that part either?

2.Ehm ok? So you admit that it can be different makers. One company... full of people LOL. All the other religions also shows us there is a God, how is that useful?

3.There are yet it was done, you always claim it's impossible.

1. Your points talk around probability. They don't actually work with probability. All your points do is to distract from probability, and then call the distraction probability.

2. Different makers with car companies, and all kinds of things that mankind makes. One maker of the universe - God - whatever God is.

3. There are what? Yet what was done? What do I claim is impossible?
Having trouble, aren't you. You can't seem to spell out what you are talking about. Your trouble shows that you are losing the battle. Otherwise you would express what you mean.

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For me it's similar to pow in bitcoin  Grin

Usually as well geometry and linear algebra I understand quickly, but statistic could never really make sense to me.

But it's when shelby started to post about game theory, it occured to me how statistic can translate to"energy" or work.

In the case of dna & cell, we see it's still small statstics , and even with all our intelligence we struggle to create it.

It's same than hash power, even if the good hash is meaningless, and it's all statistic, if you want to create 20 good block in a row, it require determined high computing power. And you never get 20 good blocks in a row "by chance".

To me it's bit the same with dna  Grin

DNA = proof of intelligent work  Grin

Thankfully your opinion is meaningless for the scientific community. If you have a good theory you can always publish it in any scientific journal. You don't need 20 good mutations in a row by the way.

More like 2 billions.

Your opinion is probably meaningless to anyone but your scientific community btw.

If you have a good troll, you can always post it on the forum.

My 2 cents are free  Grin

2 billions what

How many codon used to make a working human ?

Much more than 256 bits Smiley

Need very good hash power  Grin

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For me it's similar to pow in bitcoin  Grin

Usually as well geometry and linear algebra I understand quickly, but statistic could never really make sense to me.

But it's when shelby started to post about game theory, it occured to me how statistic can translate to"energy" or work.

In the case of dna & cell, we see it's still small statstics , and even with all our intelligence we struggle to create it.

It's same than hash power, even if the good hash is meaningless, and it's all statistic, if you want to create 20 good block in a row, it require determined high computing power. And you never get 20 good blocks in a row "by chance".

To me it's bit the same with dna  Grin

DNA = proof of intelligent work  Grin

Thankfully your opinion is meaningless for the scientific community. If you have a good theory you can always publish it in any scientific journal. You don't need 20 good mutations in a row by the way.

More like 2 billions.

Your opinion is probably meaningless to anyone but your scientific community btw.

If you have a good troll, you can always post it on the forum.

My 2 cents are free  Grin

Actually, 2 billions are probably way too small of a number.

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2. The GM company is one company. Yet it has many people and robots working for it. Together they make cars. If they tried to make cars without one goal in mind, they wouldn't be able to make them. Cars are too complex to be built with everyone deciding on his own course of action. They think together as one. They act together as one. They are one... one company. If they didn't work like this, the only cars we would have would be the ones that an individual can individually make.

The universe is almost infinitely more complex than a car. Even if there were many makers of the universe and nature and everything in it, they acted together. One God.


Did you read liebniz monadology ?  Smiley

For me it was last nail on the coffin of my atheism Smiley

It's also that sort of argument, but he is logic genius, and push this reasoning much further, with physics etc in the optimal universe theory Smiley

Cannot be atheist mathematician after reading the monadology.

Never heard. Looking now.    Cool

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned_Universe



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_of_all_possible_worlds

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/leibniz-mind/#DenMinBodIntAssPreEstHar

2. Denial of Mind-Body Interaction, Assertion of Pre-established Harmony


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_action



The laws of movement and of rest deduced from this principle being precisely the same as those observed in nature, we can admire the application of it to all phenomena. The movement of animals, the vegetative growth of plants ... are only its consequences; and the spectacle of the universe becomes so much the grander, so much more beautiful, the worthier of its Author, when one knows that a small number of laws, most wisely established, suffice for all movements.

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How did humans get here on EARTH..

1 we evolved because the EARTH made us this way..

2 Aliens some how put us here..

3 a man like being went ZAP and everything was so ..

Can only be 3 outcomes..

Imagine a germ flying through space lands on a rock I.E our earth and then we humans come along..

We still evolved from this planet because with the different weather patterns and environmental changes we evolved to look like what we are today..

With a different environment who knows we might look so much different ?..
Still might be humanoid but look so much different ..

So only can be 3 outcomes to how we come to be..

And 1 of the outcomes is called EVOLUTION THEORIES ..

How did we evolved on this planet = EVOLUTION ..

So now you can make your choice 1   2  OR 3 what is your choice .. Wink

I choose the earth made us because of DNA proves the fact even more so..

1. Evolution is scientifically impossible.

2. Where did the aliens come from? Were they created or did they evolve? Remember, evolution is impossible.

3. We see that mankind can't make any living thing from something inanimate. Therefore, it can't be some manlike being.


God created all things, and made man, as well.

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1.Prove it

2.They always existed like god

3.Abiogenesis



1. Simply Google many forms of "Is evolution impossible?" The results might have been talked around by evolutionists. But the the proofs that evolution is impossible have never been rebutted.

2. The vast complexity of the universe shows that if there were more than one being that created it, they were acting in such "tight" concert, that they were acting as one. One God.

3. Are you stating that man created abiogenesis? Man might have created the word "abiogenesis." But man never made actual abiogenesis work.

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1. I did and all of them are refuted, like I refuted them here and you couldn't even answer to them lol

2. I don't know how you think complexity shows any of that, mind explaining?

3. Im stating that there are successful experiments where they have created organic molecules from non living matter.

1. There is nothing to answer. All, 100%, of the things that you talk about can be shown to be part of at least 1 operation other than evolution. None of them are proven to support evolution. None of them answer the probability point.

2. The GM company is one company. Yet it has many people and robots working for it. Together they make cars. If they tried to make cars without one goal in mind, they wouldn't be able to make them. Cars are too complex to be built with everyone deciding on his own course of action. They think together as one. They act together as one. They are one... one company. If they didn't work like this, the only cars we would have would be the ones that an individual can individually make.

The universe is almost infinitely more complex than a car. Even if there were many makers of the universe and nature and everything in it, they acted together. One God.

The Bible shows us that there is one God. Yet there are three persons in that God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). And there are the 7 Spirits of God (Revelations). But God is one God.

3. There are big differences between making organic molecules in the lab, simply manipulating some organic parts to make other organic parts, and making life. Making organic molecules in the lab is simply a form of intelligent design. All it points at in nature is an Intelligent Designer.


Evolution doesn't exist. It is impossible. The whole story of evolution is a science fiction story. Getting people to believe it is causing them to fall for a hoax.

Cool

1.Literally all your arguments were debunked. The probability argument was shown to be wrong because of how it was calculated, did you not understand that part either?

2.Ehm ok? So you admit that it can be different makers. One company... full of people LOL. All the other religions also shows us there is a God, how is that useful?

3.There are yet it was done, you always claim it's impossible.

1. Your points talk around probability. They don't actually work with probability. All your points do is to distract from probability, and then call the distraction probability.

2. Different makers with car companies, and all kinds of things that mankind makes. One maker of the universe - God - whatever God is.

3. There are what? Yet what was done? What do I claim is impossible?
Having trouble, aren't you. You can't seem to spell out what you are talking about. Your trouble shows that you are losing the battle. Otherwise you would express what you mean.

Cool

My point is that the way the probability argument was calculated it's wrong because it assumes you need 200 beneficial mutations or it assumes that you need good mutations in a row and that also everything else has the same chance of happening. It is actually pretty easy to understand. Then again you can't refute it.

You claimed that it is impossible to have life from non matter.

The evidence for evolution is overwhelming, only religious people have trouble accepting it.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned_Universe



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_of_all_possible_worlds

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/leibniz-mind/#DenMinBodIntAssPreEstHar

2. Denial of Mind-Body Interaction, Assertion of Pre-established Harmony


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_action



The laws of movement and of rest deduced from this principle being precisely the same as those observed in nature, we can admire the application of it to all phenomena. The movement of animals, the vegetative growth of plants ... are only its consequences; and the spectacle of the universe becomes so much the grander, so much more beautiful, the worthier of its Author, when one knows that a small number of laws, most wisely established, suffice for all movements.

— Pierre Louis Maupertuis



Interesting stuff. I am in agreement with much of it. However, words are inadequate for expressing reality.

I have questioned about the idea that God is one, and that every last anything in the universe is simply God, buzzing around, like some kind of a "Higgs Boson" particle, becoming whatever is necessary to exist at some point and time, and then moving on to the next point. This God-particle moving way faster than the speed of light cubed, is all that there is in the universe.

There is no electron. There is no proton. There is no energy. There is only God... a God particle... zipping around and zapping around, being whatever is necessary for whatever He/It wants to exist at any time and place in the universe. And we see it as a universe filled with time and material and physical laws and the various dimensions.

I don't know that I believe this. And my explanation is not sufficient. But I think about it.

God is one.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned_Universe



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_of_all_possible_worlds

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/leibniz-mind/#DenMinBodIntAssPreEstHar

2. Denial of Mind-Body Interaction, Assertion of Pre-established Harmony


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_action



The laws of movement and of rest deduced from this principle being precisely the same as those observed in nature, we can admire the application of it to all phenomena. The movement of animals, the vegetative growth of plants ... are only its consequences; and the spectacle of the universe becomes so much the grander, so much more beautiful, the worthier of its Author, when one knows that a small number of laws, most wisely established, suffice for all movements.

— Pierre Louis Maupertuis



Interesting stuff. I am in agreement with much of it. However, words are inadequate for expressing reality.

I have questioned about the idea that God is one, and that every last anything in the universe is simply God, buzzing around, like some kind of a "Higgs Boson" particle, becoming whatever is necessary to exist at some point and time, and then moving on to the next point. This God-particle moving way faster than the speed of light cubed, is all that there is in the universe.

There is no electron. There is no proton. There is no energy. There is only God... a God particle... zipping around and zapping around, being whatever is necessary for whatever He/It wants to exist at any time and place in the universe. And we see it as a universe filled with time and material and physical laws and the various dimensions.

I don't know that I believe this. And my explanation is not sufficient. But I think about it.

God is one.

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Liebniz argument are purely logical, the monad is not a physical particule Smiley

Monad is more like atomic consciousness, but it's a whole logic system, with the link between event etc

But im not philosophy teacher Smiley cant explain the whole depth of the thinking, would need to re read the course to explain better.

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