Evolution is a hoax

[BADecker]

ugh where to start here. Abiogenesis or informally the origin of life,[8][9][10] is the natural process by which life arises from non-living matter, such as simple organic compounds. This has nothing to do with your claims that god created us. What you are claiming is that complex life (humans) were created spontaneously, that's what the bible says, right? God created animals and humans instantly.

Quite the opposite. Everyone knows that life that reproduces, does so according to the laws of reproduction, complex as they are. The question is, are the mutations responsible for the so-called evolutionary changes spontaneous? or programmed in via cause and effect?

Why would anyone think that God created anything spontaneously? When people get together and make something as complex as a modern automobile, they don't do it spontaneously, even in their thinking. They do it through tremendous amounts of thoughtful design.

Why would anyone think that God just spontaneously "blooped" the universe together in all its great complexity? But He might have, because He is extremely different than we are in a multitude of ways. We just don't know how God what He did. But if you suggest that what He did is like what we do, then nothing that exists was spontaneously made. This means that there is no evolution.

''None of them simply jumped into life spontaneously. All of them became alive through complex cause and effect actions in nature'' What? I thought god created them all in 1 day.

You seem to be limiting the abilities of God rather than showing spontaneity.

''I totally agree with you that there isn't any spontaneous generation of life... no evolution'' So you agree god doesn't exist? Since when is evolution the spontaneous generation of life? Evolution is change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations.[1][2] Evolutionary processes give rise to biodiversity at every level of biological organisation, including the levels of species, individual organisms, and molecules.[3]

Seems like you are the one without google or a dictionary.

I just showed you in my previous two posts here and above in this post, that we don't really know how God created the universe. But the result is cause and effect, no spontaneity. Evolution is spontaneity, regarding the mutations. There isn't any spontaneity, not even in the mutations.

It is like the random choices that people make. They aren't really random. It's just that people don't understand all the cause and effect that go into their thinking, so they suggest random thinking. Spontaneity doesn't really exist, either. There isn't any thing that happens spontaneously. It's all programmed by C&E. We think that some things happen spontaneously, because we  are too week to follow the programming.

C&E has been proven all over the whole earth in millions or billions of happenings. True spontaneity has never been proven anywhere, even one time.

So what's the point of hell and heaven or sin if every choice I make is already programmed it means it's not my fault, thanks for debunking your own religion. I rest my case your honor.

The more detailed answer to VOD is the answer to your question. God examines the way you use your free will to be on His side or against Him. Then He goes back to the Beginning and "jiggles" C&E to match His ideals and your free will.

None of us has the ability to begin to comprehend the great power of God. God controls it all with complete control. But He allows you a touch of control in your free will, even though He is the one that carries out the free-will doing of the things that you will freely.

Your God is powerless, hiding in the gaps. For such an all powerful creator, there isn't a shred of evidence for his existence, doesn't seem very great to me.

And you are one of the gaps. But He isn't hiding. He is simply gentle with you. It would be easy for Him to crush you and your free will. But He wants "partners" rather than robots.

[Vod]

My explanation is way more accurate and easy to understand than anything anyone says in favor of the evolution hoax.

You think the rewriting of history a billion times a second is easy to understand?

Evolution is just a series of mutations.  Now THAT is easy to understand.  

[BADecker]

Because He listened to your free will today, and went back to the Beginning and jiggled universal C&E to match both, your free will and His designs.

So your god reworks the entire universe and all its history every time any human thinks or speaks?

Not a very elegant solution for someone you claim is all powerful...

Perhaps the free will of people starts to test the abilities of God a little. But most people don't live beyond 100 years, so their testing of God is limited.

[Vod]

Perhaps the free will of people starts to test the abilities of God a little.

So now you claim your god isn't all powerful?

You aren't working off of any facts, or beliefs.  You are a troll, making this up as you go.   

[BADecker]

My explanation is way more accurate and easy to understand than anything anyone says in favor of the evolution hoax.

You think the rewriting of history a billion times a second is easy to understand?

Evolution is just a series of mutations.  Now THAT is easy to understand.  

And mutations are programmed in by C&E. So they aren't evolution at all. Easier yet to understand.

[Parodium]

And you are one of the gaps. But He isn't hiding. He is simply gentle with you. It would be easy for Him to crush you and your free will. But He wants "partners" rather than robots.

It's not his fault guys, religiosity is correlated with low intelligence. I mean after all, what rational, intelligent adult could believe the God myth in the face of the overwhelming evidence against him.

[BADecker]

Perhaps the free will of people starts to test the abilities of God a little.

So now you claim your god isn't all powerful?

You aren't working off of any facts, or beliefs.  You are a troll, making this up as you go.   

What would you do if you wanted to stress your ability? You would get a woman and have kids. Then you would have to deal with their free will, and their ability to outsmart you at some times.

God simply made kids when He made us. Evolutionists are trying to outsmart Him. But they fail.

[Vod]

And mutations are programmed in by C&E. So they aren't evolution at all. Easier yet to understand.

So C&E is what drives evolution?  Minutes ago you said evolution was a hoax.  

[Vod]

What would you do if you wanted to stress your ability? You would get a woman and have kids. Then you would have to deal with their free will, and their ability to outsmart you at some times.

God simply made kids when He made us.

Ah, so you are saying it is possible to outsmart your god?  That's a paradox, since god would know from the beginning he would be outsmarted, wouldn't he?

You're contradicting yourself, troll.   

[BADecker]

And you are one of the gaps. But He isn't hiding. He is simply gentle with you. It would be easy for Him to crush you and your free will. But He wants "partners" rather than robots.

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It's not his fault guys, religiosity is correlated with low intelligence. I mean after all, what rational, intelligent adult could believe the God myth in the face of the overwhelming evidence against him.

You prove yourself to fall into that graph of yours. I show proof and explanation of it. But you can't, because you don't have any.

[BADecker]

What would you do if you wanted to stress your ability? You would get a woman and have kids. Then you would have to deal with their free will, and their ability to outsmart you at some times.

God simply made kids when He made us.

Ah, so you are saying it is possible to outsmart your god?  That's a paradox, since god would know from the beginning he would be outsmarted, wouldn't he?

You're contradicting yourself, troll.   

Quite the contrary. God isn't outsmarted by people. He simply does what you would do with firmly obstinate kids. He lets them go on to their destruction. God isn't outsmarted by this, because many of His other children will remain His.

[BADecker]

And mutations are programmed in by C&E. So they aren't evolution at all. Easier yet to understand.

So C&E is what drives evolution?  Minutes ago you said evolution was a hoax.  

Evolution in the sense that evolutionary scientists talk, is a non-C&E thing. Therefore it doesn't exist like they say. Yet, things happen that evolution scientists say are evolution. Rather, they are C&E happenings.

[Vod]

Quite the contrary. God isn't outsmarted by people. He simply does what you would do with firmly obstinate kids. He lets them go on to their destruction. God isn't outsmarted by this, because many of His other children will remain His.

Why even make these kids if he knows they will destroy themselves?

Is your god a sadist?

[Vod]

Evolution in the sense that evolutionary scientists talk, is a non-C&E thing. Therefore it doesn't exist like they say.

So all the smart people are wrong, and one internet troll is right.  

Evolution is the best theory we have about where we came from.

[BADecker]

Quite the contrary. God isn't outsmarted by people. He simply does what you would do with firmly obstinate kids. He lets them go on to their destruction. God isn't outsmarted by this, because many of His other children will remain His.

Why even make these kids if he knows they will destroy themselves?

Is your god a sadist?

Didn't you forget the part about them being His children?

Take a look at children that you and your woman make. They are like you. You know that they will die some time in the future... at least that is what experience has taught us. So why do you make them? Just so that they will die some time?

People make kids so that they will have a period of enjoyment here in this life, and so that they will live in joy, forever, with God and each other in Heaven.

[bluefirecorp_]

Evolution in the sense that evolutionary scientists talk, is a non-C&E thing. Therefore it doesn't exist like they say.

So all the smart people are wrong, and one internet troll is right.   

Yeah, nearly all scientists support the theory of evolution. But one internet troll is smarter than literally millions of scientists who have spent their entire lives studying multiple data points.

>A 2009 poll by Pew Research Center found that "Nearly all scientists (97%) say humans and other living things have evolved over time – 87% say evolution is due to natural processes, such as natural selection.

[BADecker]

Evolution in the sense that evolutionary scientists talk, is a non-C&E thing. Therefore it doesn't exist like they say.

So all the smart people are wrong, and one internet troll is right.  

Evolution is the best theory we have about where we came from.

Well, actually, you have at least a few other Internet trolls that seem to agree with you.

[Vod]

Why even make these kids if he knows they will destroy themselves?

Didn't you forget the part about them being His children?

So he is allowed to torture people (create them just so they will destroy themselves) because they are his children?

[Vod]

Well, actually, you have at least a few other Internet trolls that seem to agree with you.

Some posts you agree with me, other posts you go off on some tangent.

It just proves you are making this stuff up as you go along. 

[BADecker]

Evolution in the sense that evolutionary scientists talk, is a non-C&E thing. Therefore it doesn't exist like they say.

So all the smart people are wrong, and one internet troll is right.   

Yeah, nearly all scientists support the theory of evolution. But one internet troll is smarter than literally millions of scientists who have spent their entire lives studying multiple data points.

>A 2009 poll by Pew Research Center found that "Nearly all scientists (97%) say humans and other living things have evolved over time – 87% say evolution is due to natural processes, such as natural selection.

Yet all the scientists know that cause and effect operates the whole universe. This means that they all know that everything is programmed. This means that they haven't thought the whole thing out if they answer as you state.

However, pollsters know how to make the polls say almost anything that they want, even the opposite of the people being polled.