Evolution is a hoax

[nateally054]

I don't believe humans come from monkeys if that's the case. But that's my belief, there is still no true evidence for it.

[BADecker]

Wow.. I haven't been here in years and BADLogic still hasn't bothered to spend 5 minutes researching evolution yet?

I can't seriously believe someone has endless hours to "debate" an issue they know nothing about... that's insane

His brain evolved, heh, to refuse any evidence/proof of evolution, his brain has to dismiss any information that questions or disproves god.

It's too bad about you jokers. You can't find any proof for evolution, so you badmouth people who show that evolution is a hoax. Well, there have always been false religions like evolution. And there always will be.

It's kinda funny. Over the years evolution theory has been changed so extremely much, that it doesn't match what Darwin said at all. The changes have converted evolution almost into adaptation. But there are a whole bunch of evolutionists that keep the old Darwin religion alive, and try to convert unsuspecting people into it. There must be money in it for them, somehow.

[Astargath]

Wow.. I haven't been here in years and BADLogic still hasn't bothered to spend 5 minutes researching evolution yet?

I can't seriously believe someone has endless hours to "debate" an issue they know nothing about... that's insane

His brain evolved, heh, to refuse any evidence/proof of evolution, his brain has to dismiss any information that questions or disproves god.

It's too bad about you jokers. You can't find any proof for evolution, so you badmouth people who show that evolution is a hoax. Well, there have always been false religions like evolution. And there always will be.

It's kinda funny. Over the years evolution theory has been changed so extremely much, that it doesn't match what Darwin said at all. The changes have converted evolution almost into adaptation. But there are a whole bunch of evolutionists that keep the old Darwin religion alive, and try to convert unsuspecting people into it. There must be money in it for them, somehow.

''people who show that evolution is a hoax'' Not understanding entropy =/= showing evolution is a hoax. Virtually every scientist, including scientists who believe in god and even non scientists who believe in god accept evolution as real. There is literally nothing to debate here, evolution is a reality and you are only opposed to it because you think it goes against god.

[BADecker]

''people who show that evolution is a hoax'' Not understanding entropy =/= showing evolution is a hoax. Virtually every scientist, including scientists who believe in god and even non scientists who believe in god accept evolution as real. There is literally nothing to debate here, evolution is a reality and you are only opposed to it because you think it goes against god.

What you will find is scientists protecting their jobs at the universities by claiming nothing when they are questioned about evolution. Most of them know that evolution is not possible in any way we can figure it.

[Chestt]

I don't believe humans come from monkeys if that's the case. But that's my belief, there is still no true evidence for it.

When I look at some peoples' behavior, I just can't help thinking that yesterday (or last week/month, etc.) they were still apes  

Kidding, of course, but some people really make me think that way

[BADecker]

Larken Rose On The Theory Of Evolution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsHkfWr5TEo

[Astargath]

''people who show that evolution is a hoax'' Not understanding entropy =/= showing evolution is a hoax. Virtually every scientist, including scientists who believe in god and even non scientists who believe in god accept evolution as real. There is literally nothing to debate here, evolution is a reality and you are only opposed to it because you think it goes against god.

What you will find is scientists protecting their jobs at the universities by claiming nothing when they are questioned about evolution. Most of them know that evolution is not possible in any way we can figure it.

And what are religious people protecting exactly? There are plenty of scientists who believe in god and still have their jobs, your argument is garbage.

The Roman Catholic Church has long accepted – or at least not objected to – evolutionary theory. Pope Francis is not the first pontiff to publicly affirm that evolution is compatible with church teachings. In 1950, in the encyclical “Humani Generis,” Pope Pius XII said that Catholic teachings on creation could coexist with evolutionary theory. Pope John Paul II went a bit further in 1996, calling evolution “more than a hypothesis.”

'' According to a 2013 Pew Research Center survey, 60% of Americans say humans have evolved over time'' And Americans are heavily religious.



2% of scientists believe in young earth creationism and even the public, it's only 31% compared to 22+32 = 54% belief in evolution of some kind.

Get over it badecker, you are delusional.

[BADecker]

''people who show that evolution is a hoax'' Not understanding entropy =/= showing evolution is a hoax. Virtually every scientist, including scientists who believe in god and even non scientists who believe in god accept evolution as real. There is literally nothing to debate here, evolution is a reality and you are only opposed to it because you think it goes against god.

What you will find is scientists protecting their jobs at the universities by claiming nothing when they are questioned about evolution. Most of them know that evolution is not possible in any way we can figure it.

And what are religious people protecting exactly? There are plenty of scientists who believe in god and still have their jobs, your argument is garbage.

The Roman Catholic Church has long accepted – or at least not objected to – evolutionary theory. Pope Francis is not the first pontiff to publicly affirm that evolution is compatible with church teachings. In 1950, in the encyclical “Humani Generis,” Pope Pius XII said that Catholic teachings on creation could coexist with evolutionary theory. Pope John Paul II went a bit further in 1996, calling evolution “more than a hypothesis.”

'' According to a 2013 Pew Research Center survey, 60% of Americans say humans have evolved over time'' And Americans are heavily religious.



2% of scientists believe in young earth creationism and even the public, it's only 31% compared to 22+32 = 54% belief in evolution of some kind.

Get over it badecker, you are delusional.

On occasion you make reference to Zeus. There is a lot of evidence that people of the past believed in Zeus and the other ancient Greek and Roman gods, like they are real. Some people still believe in Zeus.

The point? People believe all kinds of strange religions. Evolution doesn't really even make sense. But now that it has been scientifically prove to be a hoax, it will take time for people to come to understand that evolution, the religion they have been believing in, is a false religion.

So, why do you want to continue to promote the false evolution religion? Don't you ever want to come to the knowledge of the truth? Are you being paid by your promoters to continue this evolution lie? What kind of an unethical joker are you?

Evolution is a hoax, and you know it.

[Astargath]

''people who show that evolution is a hoax'' Not understanding entropy =/= showing evolution is a hoax. Virtually every scientist, including scientists who believe in god and even non scientists who believe in god accept evolution as real. There is literally nothing to debate here, evolution is a reality and you are only opposed to it because you think it goes against god.

What you will find is scientists protecting their jobs at the universities by claiming nothing when they are questioned about evolution. Most of them know that evolution is not possible in any way we can figure it.

And what are religious people protecting exactly? There are plenty of scientists who believe in god and still have their jobs, your argument is garbage.

The Roman Catholic Church has long accepted – or at least not objected to – evolutionary theory. Pope Francis is not the first pontiff to publicly affirm that evolution is compatible with church teachings. In 1950, in the encyclical “Humani Generis,” Pope Pius XII said that Catholic teachings on creation could coexist with evolutionary theory. Pope John Paul II went a bit further in 1996, calling evolution “more than a hypothesis.”

'' According to a 2013 Pew Research Center survey, 60% of Americans say humans have evolved over time'' And Americans are heavily religious.



2% of scientists believe in young earth creationism and even the public, it's only 31% compared to 22+32 = 54% belief in evolution of some kind.

Get over it badecker, you are delusional.

On occasion you make reference to Zeus. There is a lot of evidence that people of the past believed in Zeus and the other ancient Greek and Roman gods, like they are real. Some people still believe in Zeus.

The point? People believe all kinds of strange religions. Evolution doesn't really even make sense. But now that it has been scientifically prove to be a hoax, it will take time for people to come to understand that evolution, the religion they have been believing in, is a false religion.

So, why do you want to continue to promote the false evolution religion? Don't you ever want to come to the knowledge of the truth? Are you being paid by your promoters to continue this evolution lie? What kind of an unethical joker are you?

Evolution is a hoax, and you know it.

Considering there is 0 evidence of creationism, no hypothesis, no theory, no scientific evidence compared to the overwhelming evidence that supports evolution, that even if you think all the evidence for evolution is wrong, you still shouldn't believe in creationism considering there is 0 evidence for it.

Cognitive dissonance.

[BADecker]

Considering there is 0 evidence of creationism, no hypothesis, no theory, no scientific evidence compared to the overwhelming evidence that supports evolution, that even if you think all the evidence for evolution is wrong, you still shouldn't believe in creationism considering there is 0 evidence for it.

Cognitive dissonance.

Okay, let's get to the point. Where did everything including life come from?
1. Creation = proof not generally accepted;
2. Big Bang = Takes into account only a tiny fraction of what exists;
3. Evolution (evolution theory evolution: ETE) = proven to not be possible in any way we can theorize;
4. Something else = not defined;
5. Something else = not defined;
6. Something else = not defined;
etc,.

This thread is about evolution - ETE - being a hoax, not about where life or other things came from.

Oh, that's right. Evolution is a impossible. Evolution is a hoax.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg43768381#msg43768381

[Moloch]

When someone proves a scientific theory incorrect, they win a Nobel Prize...  Where is your Nobel Prize?

[Astargath]

Considering there is 0 evidence of creationism, no hypothesis, no theory, no scientific evidence compared to the overwhelming evidence that supports evolution, that even if you think all the evidence for evolution is wrong, you still shouldn't believe in creationism considering there is 0 evidence for it.

Cognitive dissonance.

Okay, let's get to the point. Where did everything including life come from?
1. Creation = proof not generally accepted;
2. Big Bang = Takes into account only a tiny fraction of what exists;
3. Evolution (evolution theory evolution: ETE) = proven to not be possible in any way we can theorize;
4. Something else = not defined;
5. Something else = not defined;
6. Something else = not defined;
etc,.

This thread is about evolution - ETE - being a hoax, not about where life or other things came from.

Oh, that's right. Evolution is a impossible. Evolution is a hoax.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg43768381#msg43768381

''proven to not be possible in any way we can theorize;'' This guy :^) who proved that exactly, did I mention that virtually all scientists from all fields already accepted and proved evolution? Never mind badecker always knows more than all of them combined, he must be a savant, 300 IQ.

[Moloch]

Considering there is 0 evidence of creationism, no hypothesis, no theory, no scientific evidence compared to the overwhelming evidence that supports evolution, that even if you think all the evidence for evolution is wrong, you still shouldn't believe in creationism considering there is 0 evidence for it.

Cognitive dissonance.

Okay, let's get to the point. Where did everything including life come from?
1. Creation = proof not generally accepted;
2. Big Bang = Takes into account only a tiny fraction of what exists;
3. Evolution (evolution theory evolution: ETE) = proven to not be possible in any way we can theorize;
4. Something else = not defined;
5. Something else = not defined;
6. Something else = not defined;
etc,.

This thread is about evolution - ETE - being a hoax, not about where life or other things came from.

Oh, that's right. Evolution is a impossible. Evolution is a hoax.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg43768381#msg43768381

''proven to not be possible in any way we can theorize;'' This guy :^) who proved that exactly, did I mention that virtually all scientists from all fields already accepted and proved evolution? Never mind badecker always knows more than all of them combined, he must be a savant, 300 IQ.

Don't bother with this idiot... he doesn't even understand HOW to prove a scientific theory incorrect

The only way to prove a scientific theory incorrect, is to provide a BETTER theory... that's literally the ONLY way

The new theory must explain all the observed facts of the previous theory, and more... The new theory must provide valid reasoning and testable, falsifiable, hypothesis... you must provide valid science and experimentation which clearly demonstrates to someone knowledgeable on the subject that your new theory fits all the data, and provides better predictions of future events than the previous theory... this is the only way to disprove a theory... you cannot simply claim "Evolution = proven to not be possible in any way we can theorize", without actually providing a better theory to explain the OBSERVED FACTS of evolution, lmfao

This is no different than saying, "The Theory of Gravity is wrong" without providing a better explanation for the OBSERVED FACTS of gravity, i.e. why things are attracted to massive objects, orbits of planets, etc... to disprove a theory, you need to provide a BETTER theory... (technically you provide a hypothesis... it only becomes a theory once it stands up to decades/centuries of peer review, prediction and scientific experimentation)

[BADecker]

Don't bother with this idiot... he doesn't even understand HOW to prove a scientific theory incorrect

The only way to prove a scientific theory incorrect, is to provide a BETTER theory... that's literally the ONLY way

The new theory must explain all the observed facts of the previous theory, and more... The new theory must provide valid reasoning and testable, falsifiable, hypothesis... you must provide valid science and experimentation which clearly demonstrates to someone knowledgeable on the subject that your new theory fits all the data, and provides better predictions of future events than the previous theory... this is the only way to disprove a theory... you cannot simply claim "Evolution = proven to not be possible in any way we can theorize", without actually providing a better theory to explain the OBSERVED FACTS of evolution, lmfao

This is no different than saying, "The Theory of Gravity is wrong" without providing a better explanation for the OBSERVED FACTS of gravity, i.e. why things are attracted to massive objects, orbits of planets, etc... to disprove a theory, you need to provide a BETTER theory... (technically you provide a hypothesis... it only becomes a theory once it stands up to decades/centuries of peer review, prediction and scientific experimentation)

Poor little Moloch. He can't even tell the difference between something of substance, and the theory about the hows and whys of that thing of substance. He uses the Theory of Gravity as an example. He can't even tell the difference between gravity, and the Theory of Gravity which explains how and why gravity acts as it does, and where it comes from.

Gravity is a fact! How do we know? We know because people and cars don't float off the surface of the earth. We know because the earth doesn't explode due to its centrifugal force. We know because somebody who jumps off a cliff falls to his death on the rocks below. We know because gravity causes your car keys to land on the table when you toss them there. Gravity is completely a fact, no matter what it is made out of.

The Theory of Gravity is different. How is it different? The Theory of Gravity is an attempt to explain where gravity comes from, why it works the way it does, and maybe even how to influence it to cause changes in it. The Theory takes the gravity fact, and tries to explain why gravity works as it does. The Theory of Gravity doesn't dispute the fact that gravity exists. It simply attempts to explain a bunch of things about gravity that aren't readily apparent.

How does this translate to evolution. Like this. There is the Theory of Evolution. But nobody has found any evolution example that is for-a-fact evolution.

Like the Theory of Gravity attempts to explain things about gravity, so the Theory of Evolution attempts to explain things about evolution. The big difference is that gravity abounds all over the place, and is observed and used trillions of times by billions of people and animals. Evolution is not known to factually to exist at all. The Theory of Gravity changes as we scientifically find out more and more about the gravity that we use every day. The Theory of Evolution changes as we find out more and more that evolution doesn't exist.

The Theory of Gravity can go on and on, because gravity is a known thing... known and used by everybody. The Theory of Evolution should be put to rest, because there isn't any evolution that anybody has found, and all usages of it are only guesses about its existence. The thinkers in science know this and state it. Yet evolution keeps on being promoted as fact - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg43768381#msg43768381.

Evolution is a hoax.

[Astargath]

Don't bother with this idiot... he doesn't even understand HOW to prove a scientific theory incorrect

The only way to prove a scientific theory incorrect, is to provide a BETTER theory... that's literally the ONLY way

The new theory must explain all the observed facts of the previous theory, and more... The new theory must provide valid reasoning and testable, falsifiable, hypothesis... you must provide valid science and experimentation which clearly demonstrates to someone knowledgeable on the subject that your new theory fits all the data, and provides better predictions of future events than the previous theory... this is the only way to disprove a theory... you cannot simply claim "Evolution = proven to not be possible in any way we can theorize", without actually providing a better theory to explain the OBSERVED FACTS of evolution, lmfao

This is no different than saying, "The Theory of Gravity is wrong" without providing a better explanation for the OBSERVED FACTS of gravity, i.e. why things are attracted to massive objects, orbits of planets, etc... to disprove a theory, you need to provide a BETTER theory... (technically you provide a hypothesis... it only becomes a theory once it stands up to decades/centuries of peer review, prediction and scientific experimentation)

Poor little Moloch. He can't even tell the difference between something of substance, and the theory about the hows and whys of that thing of substance. He uses the Theory of Gravity as an example. He can't even tell the difference between gravity, and the Theory of Gravity which explains how and why gravity acts as it does, and where it comes from.

Gravity is a fact! How do we know? We know because people and cars don't float off the surface of the earth. We know because the earth doesn't explode due to its centrifugal force. We know because somebody who jumps off a cliff falls to his death on the rocks below. We know because gravity causes your car keys to land on the table when you toss them there. Gravity is completely a fact, no matter what it is made out of.

The Theory of Gravity is different. How is it different? The Theory of Gravity is an attempt to explain where gravity comes from, why it works the way it does, and maybe even how to influence it to cause changes in it. The Theory takes the gravity fact, and tries to explain why gravity works as it does. The Theory of Gravity doesn't dispute the fact that gravity exists. It simply attempts to explain a bunch of things about gravity that aren't readily apparent.

How does this translate to evolution. Like this. There is the Theory of Evolution. But nobody has found any evolution example that is for-a-fact evolution.

Like the Theory of Gravity attempts to explain things about gravity, so the Theory of Evolution attempts to explain things about evolution. The big difference is that gravity abounds all over the place, and is observed and used trillions of times by billions of people and animals. Evolution is not known to factually to exist at all. The Theory of Gravity changes as we scientifically find out more and more about the gravity that we use every day. The Theory of Evolution changes as we find out more and more that evolution doesn't exist.

The Theory of Gravity can go on and on, because gravity is a known thing... known and used by everybody. The Theory of Evolution should be put to rest, because there isn't any evolution that anybody has found, and all usages of it are only guesses about its existence. The thinkers in science know this and state it. Yet evolution keeps on being promoted as fact - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg43768381#msg43768381.

Evolution is a hoax.

''Gravity is a fact! How do we know? We know because people and cars don't float off the surface of the earth.'' Silly boy, we know evolution is a fact, we know animals and humans evolve, they don't just pop off into existence

[BADecker]

''Gravity is a fact! How do we know? We know because people and cars don't float off the surface of the earth.'' Silly boy, we know evolution is a fact, we know animals and humans evolve, they don't just pop off into existence

We know gravity is a fact because we all use it all the time. Now, please don't jump off the top of the Empire State Building just to show that gravity might not exist. LISTEN to me for once, and don't do it.

Evolution theory evolution has not been proven to exist, even once. Yet, scientific attempts have been made for almost 200 years or longer.

[Astargath]

''Gravity is a fact! How do we know? We know because people and cars don't float off the surface of the earth.'' Silly boy, we know evolution is a fact, we know animals and humans evolve, they don't just pop off into existence

We know gravity is a fact because we all use it all the time. Now, please don't jump off the top of the Empire State Building just to show that gravity might not exist. LISTEN to me for once, and don't do it.

Evolution theory evolution has not been proven to exist, even once. Yet, scientific attempts have been made for almost 200 years or longer.

It wouldn't be a theory if it wasn't proven, for 200 years the evidence has been piling up, more and more evidence against creationism, more and more evidence showing evolution, yet somehow your brain thinks creationism beats evolution.

[Moloch]

Re BADLogic:

There is a difference between facts and theories...

A theory is an explanation for the observed facts... in the case of evolution, the theory of evolution explains the observed facts of evolution

A few examples of facts of evolution are:

The change in allele frequencies that occurs over time within a population
The sequence of flora and fauna found in specific layers of earth (ex. all dinosaurs are below the K-T boundary, while all humans are above the K-T boundary)
Changes in DNA sequencing aligns exactly with changes to observable characteristics of a species
Speciation has been observed both in the lab and in nature https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/news/100201_speciation
Embryology is another observed fact... a picture is worth 1000 words:


The theory of evolution explains these facts, and the process which enacts these changes.

It's sad that after "debating" evolution for years you still do not understand this simple concept (more like denying evolution than debating it... to debate you need facts and evidence)

Question: If God created this system... why are 99% of all species extinct?  Did God screw up over and over, and have to kill everything with a flood and start over multiple times?  Is God that bad of a designer?

Answer: The fact that 99% of all animal species are extinct disproves "intelligent design"

[BADecker]

Re BADLogic:

There is a difference between facts and theories...

A theory is an explanation for the observed facts... in the case of evolution, the theory of evolution explains the observed facts of evolution

A few examples of facts of evolution are:

The change in allele frequencies that occurs over time within a population
The sequence of flora and fauna found in specific layers of earth (ex. all dinosaurs are below the K-T boundary, while all humans are above the K-T boundary)
Changes in DNA sequencing aligns exactly with changes to observable characteristics of a species
Speciation has been observed both in the lab and in nature https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/news/100201_speciation
Embryology is another observed fact... a picture is worth 1000 words:


The theory of evolution explains these facts, and the process which enacts these changes.

It's sad that after "debating" evolution for years you still do not understand this simple concept (more like denying evolution than debating it... to debate you need facts and evidence)

Question: If God created this system... why are 99% of all species extinct?  Did God screw up over and over, and have to kill everything with a flood and start over multiple times?  Is God that bad of a designer?

Answer: The fact that 99% of all animal species are extinct disproves "intelligent design"

Species that God created are extinct, because people like you want a system without God. But since this can't happen, all that is happening is that you and others have destroyed the various species that have been destroyed... even though you don't realize that you are doing it, or how. It is a completely spiritual thing.

God created you with free will. Since God won't accept someone who doesn't want the truth (you), yet since He is kind and loving, He gives you time to change your mind. But you will be destroyed if you don't come to Him and apologize.

A theory explains facts. The facts that the Theory of Evolution tries to explain are not evolution facts. Rather, they are facts of adaptation and like-begets-like. Evolution theory is a completely wrong theory about these facts. Since we haven't found any factual proof of even one example of evolution, the Theory explains something that we don't know exists. Debating evolution is fun. It's like an Internet game where people fight over nothing. It's science fiction.

Since adaptation and like-begets-like has billions or trillions of factually proven examples in nature, and evolution has not even one...

Evolution is a hoax.

[Foxpup]

Species that God created are extinct, because people like you want a system without God. But since this can't happen, all that is happening is that you and others have destroyed the various species that have been destroyed... even though you don't realize that you are doing it, or how. It is a completely spiritual thing.

Although the requisite time-travelling abilities are obviously not beyond an omnipotent god, I think you'll find that the notion that "every time you masturbate, God kills a dinosaur" is on very flimsy theological ground and is not widely accepted by mainstream Christian denominations.