[ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented

[moejoejay]

okay

i use electrum but i got problems to figure out the entire transaction.

I tried this with my testaccount and i'm failing to differ the addresses and which addreses plays a role over my coin control step.

I searched for the address on the input and the output wallet but the utxo adress  i havent found.

best regards

  

[LoyceV]

i use electrum but i got problems to figure out the entire transaction.

I tried this with my testaccount and i'm failing to differ the addresses and which addreses plays a role over my coin control step.

I searched for the address on the input and the output wallet but the utxo adress  i havent found.

You may need to enable the "Coins" tab (under "View") first.

But: Electrum doesn't allow to import private keys under a Standard (HD) wallet. You can only import private keys if you create a new wallet (and then you can import as many as you want).
I took a screenshot:

(please don't use this screenshot to link me to alt accounts)

[moejoejay]

 

Electrum doesn't allow to import private keys under a Standard (HD) wallet.

But u can sweep them from any wallet u want. so i think u are able to sweep priv. keys from any source.

But I'm not sure if u are able to use coin control for sweeping.

the pay preview say that i  have utxo in slot but when i admit the (sweeping) transaction and tried to find the address on the wallet in the transcaction details.

i couldnt find anything

best regards

[LoyceV]

But u can sweep them from any wallet u want. so i think u are able to sweep priv. keys from any source.

But I'm not sure if u are able to use coin control for sweeping.

Sweeping means emptying the wallet completely. There's not much else to control when you do that.

[HCP]

But I'm not sure if u are able to use coin control for sweeping.

I'm confused... why do you want (or think you need) to use "coin control" when sweeping a private key from ChipMixer?

what if...
is it possible to sweep with some utxo'es over coin control  to gain more privacy if u want to take the sweeping step ?

What exactly are you trying to achieve?

The private key provided by ChipMixer for any given "chip" should have exactly one UTXO associated with it... if you're trying to sweep that UTXO while also spending it with other coins that you control, you're effectively removing ALL of the benefits of having used ChipMixer in the first place, as you're linking that "chip" with all the other coins you're trying to spend...

I don't see how you think that sweeping a "chip" plus using "coin-control" is going to give you any added privacy??!?

It sounds like you're a bit confused on exactly what "sweeping" is... and what "coin control" is useful for...

[moejoejay]

I'm confused... why do you want (or think you need) to use "coin control" when sweeping a private key from ChipMixer? Huh Huh Huh

not only u ^^ sorry but may u right that I have some knowledge gaps and not getting the whole pic on this topic

The private key provided by ChipMixer for any given "chip" should have exactly one UTXO associated with it... if you're trying to sweep that UTXO while also spending it with other coins that you control, you're effectively removing ALL of the benefits of having used ChipMixer in the first place, as you're linking that "chip" with all the other coins you're trying to spend... Roll Eyes

so if i understand this right, i mark my previous umarked bitcoins on purpose over coin control cause if i spent utxos from my wallet  ?

well.. yep thats sounds as an dumb idea ^^

It sounds like you're a bit confused on exactly what "sweeping" is... and what "coin control" is useful for... Undecided

see above   , thnx for pushing me into right

best regards

  

[btctaipei]

to ChipMixer DevOp:

would it be feasible to output the height (for example: 650000) along with chip's private key when withdrawing chips ?  if chips height for an full list of utxos are computationally infeasible, report back with single lowest block height for the withdraw page would sure suffice:  this way no guesswork are needed when running

importprivkey "chip 1" "remark 1" false
importprivkey "chip 2" "remark 2" false
...
...
importprivkey "chip n" "remark n" false


rescanblockchain 650000
/* uhh. where is my 8 btc and 4 btc chips? My avail balance didn't refelect*/
rescanblockchain 640000
/* ok now I got my 4 btc chip loaded... but shoot!! where did my 8 btc go? */
rescanblockchain 600000
/* oh darn it.. This took a while! */

Reason: recent volatility in local transactions tests our chips liquidity: we ran out of loaded chips before end of the day.

rescanblockchain from 500000 locks up your core UI and its bad if your next transaction are just 15 mins away (even with 1TB SSD)...  on larger chips rescan gets deep so knowing chip's utxo's min(height) precisely helps with maintaining liquidity and privacy and prolong battery life.  it also helps with our operational security (don't have to load too much coin with core to survive day worth of trade)

[HCP]

What's stopping you from just looking up the imported addresses on a blockexplorer (manually or programatically using an API) and finding the block height where they were "funded"?

[aesma]

moejoejay : don't worry your questions aren't stupid. It's true that anonymizing transactions is a hard task. Chipmixer offers a way to get "clean" coins, but the day you want to spend them, you must be careful or you could mark them again.

I'm thinking a good way to do it might be two passes of chipmixer. When you get your coins, or small bit by small bit with your stash. Then another time when you want to spend them. Or alternatively use the voucher feature, if you trust chipmixer in the long run.

[LoyceV]

What's stopping you from just looking up the imported addresses on a blockexplorer

Privacy?

[Belaemert]

An user asked about your (not discontinued) Electrum plugin and if you have a public API

Thank you for notification. As responded at that thread:

Electrum plugin was made as a concept to be integrated with Electrum but Electrum programmers were afraid that mixer integration is bad for their reputation.
As it is - plugin is hard to install and ugly. But it works and has quite a few users.

Hello @ChipMixer, i had send you mail to : chipmixer@protonmail.com at 05:07:00 PM (25 minutes ago)
please resolve my problem i am waiting your answer thank you

[jackg]

Hello @ChipMixer, i had send you mail

They normally take a few days to respond to their email afaik, if you've used them some common problems might be:
1. The site autorefresh at the start failed on the depo screen (so you can just refresh it yourself to continue)
2. If you tried funding the deposit address twice but went past step 3 and can't see your private keys/chips chipmixer would be able to help with that providing your session hasn't expired).

These are the most common I see, generally if there's a problem with funds your token or a signed message from the deposit addresses should be sufficient afaik.

What's stopping you from just looking up the imported addresses on a blockexplorer

Privacy?

Yeah!

Nothing is ever track-free. Even using a system like tails still has tracking potential... And any vulnerabilities Firefox could have that might not have been noticed could be duplicated in the branch split to tor...

[moejoejay]

moejoejay : don't worry your questions aren't stupid. It's true that anonymizing transactions is a hard task. Chipmixer offers a way to get "clean" coins, but the day you want to spend them, you must be careful or you could mark them again.

yep, and for an rookie like me its an hard learning curve ; )

Additional:

as @HCP pointed out already thats not an good idea okay,  but why ?  ..

i thought if i sweep an Fund, then i created also an transaction on the blockchain so why it isnt a good idea to mix this with some UTXO's

best regards  

[Belaemert]

Hello @ChipMixer, i had send you mail

They normally take a few days to respond to their email afaik, if you've used them some common problems might be:
1. The site autorefresh at the start failed on the depo screen (so you can just refresh it yourself to continue)
2. If you tried funding the deposit address twice but went past step 3 and can't see your private keys/chips chipmixer would be able to help with that providing your session hasn't expired).

These are the most common I see, generally if there's a problem with funds your token or a signed message from the deposit addresses should be sufficient afaik.

What's stopping you from just looking up the imported addresses on a blockexplorer

Privacy?

Yeah!

Nothing is ever track-free. Even using a system like tails still has tracking potential... And any vulnerabilities Firefox could have that might not have been noticed could be duplicated in the branch split to tor...

Hello @jackg, I had send the coins, and save the token session when I had reopen the session no bitcoin received and the deposit wallet is another. I hope I will refind my money thank you brother

[TryNinja]

Hello @jackg, I had send the coins, and save the token session when I had reopen the session no bitcoin received and the deposit wallet is another. I hope I will refind my money thank you brother

Did you access the website through Tor? If so, was it from the clean net domain (chipmixer.com) or the .onion domain?

And you didn't let your session expire, right?

[btctaipei]

What's stopping you from just looking up the imported addresses on a blockexplorer

Privacy?

I think LoyceV nailed it.  
my core binds -bind=127.0.0.1 -listen=1 as full jailed tor node in the field to maintain communication privacy and transactional integrity.

in field, most block chain lookup site are very slow when used with tor, blockstream are great to verify payment but sometime they are slow.  Somehow full core node thru tor works much better because I'm comfortable with core RPC.

I right click and copy the entire rawtransaction and broadcast it thru sites such as

http://explorerzydxu5ecjrkwceayqybizmpjjznk5izmitf2modhcusuqlid.onion/tx/push

It works especially well with USB satellite receivers

most and if not all fractional reserve banking cartel controlled city, camera is at every street corner.

Less and less people are wearing mask because we don't have lock down.  I want to protect the entity of the person doing transaction with, esp in the case of those who were involved and at risk.

seen many legit usecase, hong kong protest victims, political and ethnic suppression victims, and corporate finanical suppression to mom and pop agricultural land owner mining bitcoin with cheap electricity in high mountains.  

All internet traffic are archived and searched.  Corrupt power and deep state are in charge.
Expect all transaction traffic being deciphered.  And don't believe anyone need a warrant.
You have no due process right.  You are presumed guility and proven otherwise (proof innocence is shifted to bitcoiner's burden).  

Once you've got on those deep state "black list" and even if you are law abiding citizen should expect plenty of harassment and restriction with everything you do, even you travel to another country.  I don't need to put someone or perhaps one of us into that situation.

The truth is out there.

[Belaemert]

Hello @jackg, I had send the coins, and save the token session when I had reopen the session no bitcoin received and the deposit wallet is another. I hope I will refind my money thank you brother

Did you access the website through Tor? If so, was it from the clean net domain (chipmixer.com) or the .onion domain?

And you didn't let your session expire, right?

Hello @TryNinja, yes with tor on onion. In the hash is noted that : bitcoin received and not spent, but in the session there is no [Suspicious link removed]ived
Good night

[ChipMixer]

to ChipMixer DevOp:

would it be feasible to output the height (for example: 650000) along with chip's private key when withdrawing chips ? 

It is possible. This is good idea.

[Belaemert]

to ChipMixer DevOp:

would it be feasible to output the height (for example: 650000) along with chip's private key when withdrawing chips ? 

It is possible. This is good idea.

you have SCAMED me
and here also he had scammed me : bitcoinmixer.eu
You are scammeur you two

[LoyceV]

you have SCAMED me

I highly doubt that.

and here also he had scammed me : bitcoinmixer.eu

That site has nothing to do with ChipMixer. See ⚠️ List of Bitcoin Mixer or tumbler SCAM/CLONE websites ⚠️ for many scam/phishing sites to avoid.