[ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented

[LeGaulois]

And now he comes out and says "April fools guys, site is back on"  

Who knows if he is not already back in the scene? It's up to you to believe me, or not.
(I try fake news, but since there are people believing in Santa Claus and the Earth is flat, they may believe this too?)

By the way, since this seizure appeared in my country in all the national and even local media, I have spoken with people who discovered bitcoin because of this news.

I smiled
I prefered to say, "Oh, no idea, I don't know bitcoin." Because it's funny to listen to their bullshits reapeated from TV & co.
I like to use this method with so many topics IRL (politic, history,etc...)

[dkbit98]

(I try fake news, but since there are people believing in Santa Claus and the Earth is flat, they may believe this too?)

Real fact checker here, Santa Claus is actual Christian saint called Saint Nicholas, but coca-cola made him into circus clown.
I don't know what is the real shape of earth since I never saw it myself, except in movies, tv and photoshopped images , so I have to go to space to verify this
Back on ChipmMixer coming back, my theory is that even if he/they comes back it won't be under the name ChipMixer, it will have new name and work differently, so watch for out any new mixers coming out... this is just my speculation

[JollyGood]

Well that is one of the advantages of having any kind of exposure in the media about Bitcoin (or crypto in general). As well as the usual negative and on many occasions unfair press, it can also bring new words such as crypto and BTC to a new audience 

By the way, since this seizure appeared in my country in all the national and even local media, I have spoken with people who discovered bitcoin because of this news.

I smiled
I prefered to say, "Oh, no idea, I don't know bitcoin." Because it's funny to listen to their bullshits reapeated from TV & co.
I like to use this method with so many topics IRL (politic, history,etc...)

[shasan]

I assume all people who used ChipMixer, even for their own anonymity are considered they did "money laudering

It is not. All the people who used the mixer will not be considered as money laundering and also they will not try their effort to identify all users of chipmixer. And the allegation came not only for money laundering but also for identity theft. And the case arises for identity theft.

[crewdede]

Yup!
they are tracking all the coins now, CHIPMIXER KEPT LOGS! I personally think  it was just a honey pot planted by FBI!

They just cracked down a DARK MARKET , and they arrested 119 people, how they could arrest 119 people on a website that sell digital stuff?

Coinciding with the infrastructure seizure, the major crackdown, which involved authorities from 17 countries, culminated in 119 arrests and 208 property searches in 13 nations. However, the .onion mirror of the market appears to be still up and running.

The "unprecedented" law enforcement exercise has been codenamed Operation Cookie Monster

[TryNinja]

They just cracked down a DARK MARKET , and they arrested 119 people, how they could arrest 119 people on a website that sell digital stuff?

Which dark market?

[BlackHatCoiner]

And where's the evidence?

[NotATether]

They just cracked down a DARK MARKET , and they arrested 119 people, how they could arrest 119 people on a website that sell digital stuff?

Which dark market?

I believe it was Genesis Market (the operation was called Cookie Monster because you could buy stolen cookies that point to active login sessions).

[RickDeckard]

Coinciding with the infrastructure seizure, the major crackdown, which involved authorities from 17 countries, culminated in 119 arrests and 208 property searches in 13 nations. However, the .onion mirror of the market appears to be still up and running.

Do note that taking remarks from other sources[1] without stating that you are paraphrasing can be considered against the rules @crewdede. The takedown that you refer to was reported at least somewhere in the beginning of April[2] while ChipMixer went down around 15th of March[3]. Generally these kind of operations takes years of research and gathering evidences, especially when we are dealing with multiple countries, let alone the effort that is the cooperation with multiple national and international agencies to go after each individual. My guess is that this operation was already being planned years ago and it was just a matter of timing to happen after ChipMixer went down.
[1]https://thehackernews.com/2023/04/fbi-cracks-down-on-genesis-market-119.html
[2]https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/05/fbi-genesis-market-seized-stolen-logins
[3]https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1935098.msg61916953#msg61916953

[joker_josue]

My guess is that this operation was already being planned years ago and it was just a matter of timing to happen after ChipMixer went down.

In addition, they are very different cases and are handled by different departments of the police forces:
One involves economic crimes, with the issue of money laundering.
The other involves cybercrime, which involves hacking.

It makes no sense to mix the two things up, even though they happened a few days or weeks after the first one.

[decodx]

Yup!
they are tracking all the coins now, CHIPMIXER KEPT LOGS! I personally think  it was just a honey pot planted by FBI!

How do you know Chipmixer kept the logs? Do you have any evidence or source of information for this?
And what is the connection between the Chipmixer case and the takedown of the dark market that you mentioned?

[Husires]

My guess is that this operation was already being planned years ago and it was just a matter of timing to happen after ChipMixer went down.

The beginning of investigations related to CM started in 2021, as mentioned here https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1574581/download

Between October 20, 2021, and October 22, 2021, an FBI agent accessed the
ChipMixer website located at the domain chipmixer.com.

And if we noticed that since the middle of last year, DDOS attacks were abnormal for the site, and therefore they may have been able to access some data and continued to make the site work throughout this period before they accessed NGUYEN aka CM.
So the case is several years old and they may have accessed the data before March.

How do you know Chipmixer kept the logs? Do you have any evidence or source of information for this?
And what is the connection between the Chipmixer case and the takedown of the dark market that you mentioned?

What will prove this theory is if more dark web sites were closed during the current (and next year) more than the average in the past years, then there is certainly important data they obtained from CM.

[joker_josue]

How do you know Chipmixer kept the logs? Do you have any evidence or source of information for this?
And what is the connection between the Chipmixer case and the takedown of the dark market that you mentioned?

What will prove this theory is if more dark web sites were closed during the current (and next year) more than the average in the past years, then there is certainly important data they obtained from CM.

Even so, it won't prove anything. Already many sites were closed, before the CM was closed.

We have to take into account, that in the last 2~3 years the authorities have invested a lot in cyber investigation. So it's normal to see more and more of these types of sites being closed down. Added to this is the fact that today there are many more sites of the genre than there were 5 years ago. Soon this will increase arrests.

Therefore, associating one thing with another, without clear evidence, is pure speculation.

[JollyGood]

Maybe all the rumours about Chipmixer allegedly keeping logs were started after news of the 7TB disk were posted. There are no reports of what was on the recovered disk but it could simply be 7TB consisting mostly of free space and only partially populated with the operating system.

We do not know whether logs were kept and if they were, for what reason.

Yup!
they are tracking all the coins now, CHIPMIXER KEPT LOGS! I personally think  it was just a honey pot planted by FBI!

How do you know Chipmixer kept the logs? Do you have any evidence or source of information for this?

[LoyceV]

Maybe all the rumours about Chipmixer allegedly keeping logs were started after news of the 7TB disk were posted.

You don't need 7 TB for that. I'm pretty sure a fraction of a percent of that amount would have been enough to log every transaction ever made through CM. The entire Bitcoin blockchain is only 0.5 TB.

[hugeblack]

1.30807482^[1] bitcoins were withdrawn from chipmixer signature campaign funds. This was done on 2023-08-19.
Does anyone know if @DarkStar_ did this?

ChipMixer address ---> 1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty

[1] https://mempool.space/tx/5fb0b121815e445ac784319a9691b37198fd3b5a228d6305703c7f0d1d8bc562

[NotATether]

1.30807482^[1] bitcoins were withdrawn from chipmixer signature campaign funds. This was done on 2023-08-19.
Does anyone know if @DarkStar_ did this?

ChipMixer address ---> 1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty

[1] https://mempool.space/tx/5fb0b121815e445ac784319a9691b37198fd3b5a228d6305703c7f0d1d8bc562

It has to be him (judging by the amount of BTC in there, I'm pretty sure this is the case), otherwise that means his wallet is compromised.

[Synchronice]

1.30807482^[1] bitcoins were withdrawn from chipmixer signature campaign funds. This was done on 2023-08-19.
Does anyone know if @DarkStar_ did this?

ChipMixer address ---> 1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty

[1] https://mempool.space/tx/5fb0b121815e445ac784319a9691b37198fd3b5a228d6305703c7f0d1d8bc562

It has to be him (judging by the amount of BTC in there, I'm pretty sure this is the case), otherwise that means his wallet is compromised.

I really wonder:
1. Who is Darkstar? How did the collaboration between him and Chipmixer happen? Why did Chipmixer chose him instead of other famous signature campaign managers? As I see, he has rarely managed sig campaigns.
2. Why did he disappear after the Chipmixer incident? Is he afraid that he may get caught?
By the way, what happened to Chipmixer owner, is he arrested or is he in the list of most wanted people?

[xLays]

1.30807482^[1] bitcoins were withdrawn from chipmixer signature campaign funds. This was done on 2023-08-19.
Does anyone know if @DarkStar_ did this?

ChipMixer address ---> 1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty

[1] https://mempool.space/tx/5fb0b121815e445ac784319a9691b37198fd3b5a228d6305703c7f0d1d8bc562

It has to be him (judging by the amount of BTC in there, I'm pretty sure this is the case), otherwise that means his wallet is compromised.

I really wonder:
1. Who is Darkstar? How did the collaboration between him and Chipmixer happen? Why did Chipmixer chose him instead of other famous signature campaign managers? As I see, he has rarely managed sig campaigns.
2. Why did he disappear after the Chipmixer incident? Is he afraid that he may get caught?
By the way, what happened to Chipmixer owner, is he arrested or is he in the list of most wanted people?

To answer your question: Number 1, we don't know him personally, but DarkStar has been here since 2015; he's quite popular and trusted here on Bitcointalk, just so you know. As far as I know, he rarely manages signature campaigns because he focuses on managing the Chipmixer signature campaign. Number 2, he didn't disappear; he's just taking some rest, as he stated in his signature space. He might want to not get involved in what's happened with Chipmixer.

Regarding Chipmixer's owner and the situation happened to Chipmixer case, this article might help to answer you question: Germany and U.S. Seize Over $46M Crypto Tied to ChipMixer Investigation

[hugeblack]

It has to be him (judging by the amount of BTC in there, I'm pretty sure this is the case), otherwise that means his wallet is compromised.

If it is for him, according to his last comment that the payments for the last week will be sent, did you receive any payments for the last week?

As ChipMixer has been seized, the campaign is now ended. Outstanding payments will be made later this week.

Also, the cost of managing one week in the campaign is 0.4, and the amount of 1.3 is sufficient for about 3 weeks. Should it be refunded to ChipMixer^*, or should it be to DarkStar_ or what?

I think this address bc1q29xpuw8mx9933xed7t6r03yge42zf2rqmevntm belongs to a government agency given that the balance has about 50 bitcoins

* I don't know how that will happen.