ASICMiner USB group buy- orders closed, pay for extra!

[bigbeninlondon]

The extra 19 aren't perk units, the retail 1.99 BTC price includes a 6 month warranty as per above. I wouldn't expect to get back used equipment after exercising a warranty return. If he is going to mine with the groups warranty units and keep the profits in addition to his original payment great, but it would be in good form to throw something back to the group.

Also, if a unit is defective, doesn't Arklan return them to friedcat for a replacement?  Or is that only after the 19 units are exhausted?

[aspeer]

The extra 19 aren't perk units, the retail 1.99 BTC price includes a 6 month warranty as per above. I wouldn't expect to get back used equipment after exercising a warranty return. If he is going to mine with the groups warranty units and keep the profits in addition to his original payment great, but it would be in good form to throw something back to the group.

Also, if a unit is defective, doesn't Arklan return them to friedcat for a replacement?  Or is that only after the 19 units are exhausted?

Units are supposed to be pulled from the extras for replacement so that friedcat doesnt have to deal with it. basically to issue new unit and throw away bad unit.

[RoboCoder]

FYI..

One of the 10 i got was bad..  I am sending it to him and he is going to send me a new one - he responded fast and did not argue with me a bit.  I agree that the overage should be held by arklan in case someone else needs a replacement.  And it is correct: friedcat sends the extras so he doesnt have to deal with one-off returns from overseas..

Personally, i don't care if he mines the extras while he holds them (again that is only my opinion) - i think if he modifies the post he can show the status of the 19 as he replaces them so everyone can see - wouldnt think that would be a problem.  After the 19 are gone.. then it becomes a hair more difficult - another good reason for a maintained post about the status of the warranty extras to see what the fail rate is.

Arklan has done a great job with this - and has been very trustworthy and honest about the whole thing.  I would definitely buy some again in any group buy he chooses to organize. 

[mdude77]

The extra 19 aren't perk units, the retail 1.99 BTC price includes a 6 month warranty as per above. I wouldn't expect to get back used equipment after exercising a warranty return. If he is going to mine with the groups warranty units and keep the profits in addition to his original payment great, but it would be in good form to throw something back to the group.

Also, if a unit is defective, doesn't Arklan return them to friedcat for a replacement?  Or is that only after the 19 units are exhausted?

I think he should lotto them after 6 months.  There's a spreadsheet of buyers ... one entry per user.  Use some external random site based on bitcoin, like what has been used in the past, so it's very clear who won.

M

[bigbeninlondon]

The extra 19 aren't perk units, the retail 1.99 BTC price includes a 6 month warranty as per above. I wouldn't expect to get back used equipment after exercising a warranty return. If he is going to mine with the groups warranty units and keep the profits in addition to his original payment great, but it would be in good form to throw something back to the group.

Also, if a unit is defective, doesn't Arklan return them to friedcat for a replacement?  Or is that only after the 19 units are exhausted?

I think he should lotto them after 6 months.  There's a spreadsheet of buyers ... one entry per user.  Use some external random site based on bitcoin, like what has been used in the past, so it's very clear who won.

M

I would be OK with this.

[logicbomb666]

The extra 19 aren't perk units, the retail 1.99 BTC price includes a 6 month warranty as per above. I wouldn't expect to get back used equipment after exercising a warranty return. If he is going to mine with the groups warranty units and keep the profits in addition to his original payment great, but it would be in good form to throw something back to the group.

Also, if a unit is defective, doesn't Arklan return them to friedcat for a replacement?  Or is that only after the 19 units are exhausted?

I think he should lotto them after 6 months.  There's a spreadsheet of buyers ... one entry per user.  Use some external random site based on bitcoin, like what has been used in the past, so it's very clear who won.

M

I like this idea, expect 1 entry per USB stick purchased.

[aahzmundus]

The extra 19 aren't perk units, the retail 1.99 BTC price includes a 6 month warranty as per above. I wouldn't expect to get back used equipment after exercising a warranty return. If he is going to mine with the groups warranty units and keep the profits in addition to his original payment great, but it would be in good form to throw something back to the group.

Also, if a unit is defective, doesn't Arklan return them to friedcat for a replacement?  Or is that only after the 19 units are exhausted?

I think he should lotto them after 6 months.  There's a spreadsheet of buyers ... one entry per user.  Use some external random site based on bitcoin, like what has been used in the past, so it's very clear who won.

M

I like this idea, expect 1 entry per USB stick purchased.

The issue is in 6 months some people wont want a USB stick, when others might.  Thats why I suggest an internal auction and then split the profits from that auction per usb stick purchased.

[tvbcof]

In terms of the excess inventory both now, and 6 months from now, I'll pay the most attention to what John K might think.  He didn't take on the task of being an arbitrator, nor does his compensation package account for such a service, but he seems pretty good at it if he can spare the time...and is willing to graciously take the risk of the fallout.

[mdude77]

The extra 19 aren't perk units, the retail 1.99 BTC price includes a 6 month warranty as per above. I wouldn't expect to get back used equipment after exercising a warranty return. If he is going to mine with the groups warranty units and keep the profits in addition to his original payment great, but it would be in good form to throw something back to the group.

Also, if a unit is defective, doesn't Arklan return them to friedcat for a replacement?  Or is that only after the 19 units are exhausted?

I think he should lotto them after 6 months.  There's a spreadsheet of buyers ... one entry per user.  Use some external random site based on bitcoin, like what has been used in the past, so it's very clear who won.

M

I like this idea, expect 1 entry per USB stick purchased.

The issue is in 6 months some people wont want a USB stick, when others might.  Thats why I suggest an internal auction and then split the profits from that auction per usb stick purchased.

That's easy to solve.  If you win, and you don't claim it after 7 days, it goes back into a drawing.

We don't know how many will be left after 6 months anyhow.

M

[tidus_13]

arklan should keep it with the USBs i think, cause he was a group buy owner.

Others will say lotery will be fine cause they want a chance to have one more USB.

will be fair if group owner keeps it

[arklan]

i haven't the slightest idea what to do with them 6 months from now, post warranty. obviously, i'd like to keep them (i mean, duh.) but right now i just want ot decompress from all this and think it over carefully.

and yea, as robocoder said, there's alreayd two i know of which are bad and being replaced.

also: wait - i've supposed to have made near half a coin a day!? ...ok, ozcoin is broken.

[mr.n00blar]

Will there be another one of these group buys?

[LazyOtto]

There already are. Currently open.

Look and yet shall find.

[arklan]

Will there be another one of these group buys?

not from me, at least for a few weeks, so probably not at all.

[PeZ]

Arklan is going to need those extras to pay for his Fedex bill. 

Last I heard, Friedcat accepts returns in bunches of 10, but if there aren't 10 defectives before the six months is up, then Arklan is stuck with the dead ones. Perhaps he should be mining with all of them to weed out the early defectives.

You can't expect anything from the mining. You get no perks for being a participant in this group buy. All you can expect is a working replacement for your dead ones. This means you shouldn't expect a brand new pristine device for your burnt out one.

[arklan]

oh, and on that note: all the ones i have DO work fine, so no worries on that front.

[WuLabsWuTecH]

wait a sec, is this groupbuy active?

[arklan]

wait a sec, is this groupbuy active?

negative. i'll go change the subject line, now that you mention it.

[WuLabsWuTecH]

stupid question, disregard, i thought this was the active one b/c it didn't have closed in the title...

[zapeta]

wait a sec, is this groupbuy active?

No.  CanaryInTheMine is running several, but it looks like the 3rd has ended and the 4th hasn't started yet.  I'd watch his recent posts and wait for him to open the 4th group buy in the next few days.  

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