[ANN][NIM] - Nimiq - The Browser Based Blockchain

[sasha.new]

Trinkler is a stupid shitcoiner.

His abandoned Melon coin project is a piece of shit too. He doesn't have a great track record.

Agora trade is also going to be a train-wreck.

interesting finding bro. i looked for melon coin

https://i.imgur.com/LyMK0AO.png

it looks after they raised funds, after 2 years they still didn't release any software and there is no real user. agora trade also has no user at the moment. it looksl like pump and dump schemes. nothing concrete only ico and private sales scamming people. i wonder why

Good finding guys !!! I didn't know that the guy from Tinkler also had a different ICO project before working on this Melon Coin. Indeed, it looks like all these people agora.trade, nimiq, weg bank are only making money by doing ICOs cashing in millions of dollars from investors who are wasting their money. They always make useless projects, with no real customers and all their projects are just P&D marketing stunts to cash in once BIG TIMES. I am just waiting for the next financial report that will reveal that nimiq team is having financial problems with a total financial budget of less than 4 million dollars. Just waiting to see that report (hopefully they will publish it). My insider source told me that nimiq team is having a fight inside the team as they are clueless with the project. Moreover, they are buying coins from time to time to increase the price artificially.

It is clear that they started to pump their own shitcoin. They buy their own coin deceiving people to believe anybody is buying it. But, the reality is that NOBODY is buying this shitcoin. There are no other real users. On telegram and discord, same 10 people make 95% of the messages.... this is the definition of a scam. Pumping and price manipulation to trick users buying it. Penny stock scam.

[igorttomic]

How Nimiq can inspire mainstream adoption of blockchain technology: https://www.publish0x.com/blockspectator/how-nimiq-can-inspire-mainstream-adoption-of-blockchain-technology-xzjey

[Nimiq]

New VLOG: Hackathon Summary

Although team Nimiq works around the globe, we organize hackathons where we gather in person to get highly complex tasks done that require close communication. 

 Learn about the last hackathon in this VLOG

Nimiq answer FUDDERS
Giving them the attention they deserve




What is this all about?
Nimiq is the first browser blockchain.
That means apps based on Nimiq can run directly in the browser of the user, locally, without the need of a server-side application.

Since its launch, this have been an informative/discussion thread for Nimiq-related topics.
In January these group of users were created with the sole purpose of spreading FUD in this thread:

nimiqshitcoin, coinfanatic, andrewjaxx, john.btc, sasha.new, Scamiq, Scamiq2, matthewgpu

As you might have noticed they always use unnecessarily aggressive language, huge red bold fonts and empty claims instead of serious questions.

Team Nimiq have answered here their non-factual claims. Also held a live Reddit AMA session recently where all questions were answered.
There is also a blog post with a  summary of the AMA.

Nimiq welcome all newcomers, invite them to ask questions, and would like to apologize for these users behavior and any inconvenience they might cause.

[nimiqshitcoin]

I HAVE RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING INTERNAL INFORMATION WHO WANTS TO BE ANONYMOUS.

Nimiq signed a deal with WAG Bank to PAY 1 MILLION DOLLAR FOR 9.9% OF WEG Bank with an evaluation of a "bank" of only 10 million dollars. But the deal is not in Fiat or Eth or BTC. The deal was in Nimiq. Because team nimiq didn't own enough coins just 10% of the 1 million USD deal in nimiq, they started buying coins from the market on HitBTC. The entire pump is caused only by NIMIQ / WEG BANK buying over ~ 1 billion coins from the market. This is the sure way to lose money: buy your own coin buying high and selling low.

[nutildah]

(crying removed)

Stop crying. This coin is up 37% in the last 24 hours. What more do you want from it? It seems like the harder you cry, the higher it goes.

Everything you just said in MAXIMUM RED FONT is utter bullshit. Get a real job.

[nimiqshitcoin]

(crying removed)

Stop crying. This coin is up 37% in the last 24 hours. What more do you want from it? It seems like the harder you cry, the higher it goes.

Everything you just said in MAXIMUM RED FONT is utter bullshit. Get a real job.

Prick. You made me post the email I have got

https://i.imgur.com/VP8u5BW.png

My source claims that they are the ones who are buying the coin. Namely, they bought coins worth 1 million usd to pay for 10% of WEG Bank. So, they are pumping their own coin.

[robin.nimiq]

(crying removed)

Stop crying. This coin is up 37% in the last 24 hours. What more do you want from it? It seems like the harder you cry, the higher it goes.

Everything you just said in MAXIMUM RED FONT is utter bullshit. Get a real job.

Prick. You made me post the email I have got

https://i.imgur.com/VP8u5BW.png

My source claims that they are the ones who are buying the coin. Namely, they bought coins worth 1 million usd to pay for 10% of WEG Bank. So, they are pumping their own coin.

yes yes. nimiq is shady. they invested 1 million dollar pumping the market to buy 9.9% of weg shady bank, while lite coin foundation received it for free. am i the only one who wants to how much liquidity does nimiq have? 2-3 million usd?

[nutildah]

(crying removed)

Stop crying. This coin is up 37% in the last 24 hours. What more do you want from it? It seems like the harder you cry, the higher it goes.

Everything you just said in MAXIMUM RED FONT is utter bullshit. Get a real job.

Prick. You made me post the email I have got

https://i.imgur.com/VP8u5BW.png

My source claims that they are the ones who are buying the coin. Namely, they bought coins worth 1 million usd to pay for 10% of WEG Bank. So, they are pumping their own coin.

Oh, I see you got an _email_. In that case your FUD must be legitimate. 

[ac1905]

"while lite coin foundation received it for free."
Do you really think they received something for free? What planet do you live on?

[sasha.new]

I HAVE RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING INTERNAL INFORMATION WHO WANTS TO BE ANONYMOUS.

Nimiq signed a deal with WAG Bank to PAY 1 MILLION DOLLAR FOR 9.9% OF WEG Bank with an evaluation of a "bank" of only 10 million dollars. But the deal is not in Fiat or Eth or BTC. The deal was in Nimiq. Because team nimiq didn't own enough coins just 10% of the 1 million USD deal in nimiq, they started buying coins from the market on HitBTC. The entire pump is caused only by NIMIQ / WEG BANK buying over ~ 1 billion coins from the market. This is the sure way to lose money: buy your own coin buying high and selling low.

IMHO. Besides the fact that nimiq is turning into a shady ICO exactly like TokenPay which is always lying and deceiving people (even scamming bounty hunters for millions of dollars ), I believe that the entire buyout of 9.9% of WEG Bank (which doesn't have 1 customer and 1 working product/service) it have cost them more than 1 million dollar. It could have cost them at least 2.5 million dollars making the scam "bank" evaluation for 25 million dollars. I am just curious if Richy or others will disclose the figure number to know how much they waisted buying 9.9% of nothing.

[saminer]

 

andrewjaxx, coinfanatic, john.btc, matthewgpu, nimiqshitcoin, robin.nimiq, sasha.new, Scamiq, Scamiq2, wentian.cn, and yuluxugi32132
 
No matter how hard you FUD/bark, price keeps climbing. Must be very painful for you to watch!




How's your homemade trashcoin doing?

 

[normana]

Prick. You made me post the email I have got



My source claims that they are the ones who are buying the coin. Namely, they bought coins worth 1 million usd to pay for 10% of WEG Bank. So, they are pumping their own coin.

You should definitely check your sources, because this email was not written by a native German (grammar is utterly incorrect). Looks more like Google Translate results. But why would your source want to look like it was German if it wasn't? Maybe because your source is fake...

Oh wait, maybe even you whole screenshot is fake: If you look closely you can see that the subject line (starting with a bold "Betreff:") does not align, as if a person just inserted something after the screenshot was made. Also in the very first line "Betreff" uses antialiasing but "RE: INFO" doesn't. Oh and the subject in the bold subject line is "RE:INFO" and in the first line is "RE: INFO" (with additional space).
All-in-all a pretty bad fake screenshot, maybe put some more energy in it next time you want to prove your FUD with a fake screenshot....

[saminer]

Prick. You made me post the email I have got



My source claims that they are the ones who are buying the coin. Namely, they bought coins worth 1 million usd to pay for 10% of WEG Bank. So, they are pumping their own coin.

You should definitely check your sources, because this email was not written by a native German (grammar is utterly incorrect). Looks more like Google Translate results. But why would your source want to look like it was German if it wasn't? Maybe because your source is fake...

Oh wait, maybe even you whole screenshot is fake: If you look closely you can see that the subject line (starting with a bold "Betreff:") does not align, as if a person just inserted something after the screenshot was made. Also in the very first line "Betreff" uses antialiasing but "RE: INFO" doesn't. Oh and the subject in the bold subject line is "RE:INFO" and in the first line is "RE: INFO" (with additional space).
All-in-all a pretty bad fake screenshot, maybe put some more energy in it next time you want to prove your FUD with a fake screenshot....

Great job dissecting the fake screen shot. I'm sure he'll do a better job next time! These guys are not just casual Fudders but actually dedicated by investing time and effort into it.
 

[NImiqNews]

Team #Nimiq is excited to announce that the project has recently acquired a 9.9% stake in German WEG Bank AG.

Learn more about it in the latest blog post!

[Scamiq]

I HAVE RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING INTERNAL INFORMATION WHO WANTS TO BE ANONYMOUS.

Nimiq signed a deal with WAG Bank to PAY 1 MILLION DOLLAR FOR 9.9% OF WEG Bank with an evaluation of a "bank" of only 10 million dollars. But the deal is not in Fiat or Eth or BTC. The deal was in Nimiq. Because team nimiq didn't own enough coins just 10% of the 1 million USD deal in nimiq, they started buying coins from the market on HitBTC. The entire pump is caused only by NIMIQ / WEG BANK buying over ~ 1 billion coins from the market. This is the sure way to lose money: buy your own coin buying high and selling low.

Wow. This smells so much like market manipulation bullshit. Also possible insider trading. I wonder how high they will try to pump their shitcoin.

[nimiqshitcoin]

I HAVE RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING INTERNAL INFORMATION WHO WANTS TO BE ANONYMOUS.

Nimiq signed a deal with WAG Bank to PAY 1 MILLION DOLLAR FOR 9.9% OF WEG Bank with an evaluation of a "bank" of only 10 million dollars. But the deal is not in Fiat or Eth or BTC. The deal was in Nimiq. Because team nimiq didn't own enough coins just 10% of the 1 million USD deal in nimiq, they started buying coins from the market on HitBTC. The entire pump is caused only by NIMIQ / WEG BANK buying over ~ 1 billion coins from the market. This is the sure way to lose money: buy your own coin buying high and selling low.

Wow. This smells so much like market manipulation bullshit. Also possible insider trading. I wonder how high they will try to pump their shitcoin.

Facts proved about price manipulation

1. Trading Bot was proven by bitcointalk and confirmed after Robin Linus asked them publicly to tell to the community if they run trading bots, and they said YES

2. They confirmed that they acquired coins from the market to pay community projects. Btw here are the community projects? Does any of them work? Is one working? Is any of them used by anybody

3. They confirmed that every month they acquire coins worth $35,000 to pay for developers.

4. They acquired 9.9% of WEG Bank. So they invested over 1 million dollar buying coins from the market

5. They announced that the WEG Bank acquisition is under NDA. Although we know that they acquired 9.9% for 1 million dollar investment, they don't want to tell us.

[robin.nimiq]

I HAVE RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING INTERNAL INFORMATION WHO WANTS TO BE ANONYMOUS.

Nimiq signed a deal with WAG Bank to PAY 1 MILLION DOLLAR FOR 9.9% OF WEG Bank with an evaluation of a "bank" of only 10 million dollars. But the deal is not in Fiat or Eth or BTC. The deal was in Nimiq. Because team nimiq didn't own enough coins just 10% of the 1 million USD deal in nimiq, they started buying coins from the market on HitBTC. The entire pump is caused only by NIMIQ / WEG BANK buying over ~ 1 billion coins from the market. This is the sure way to lose money: buy your own coin buying high and selling low.

Wow. This smells so much like market manipulation bullshit. Also possible insider trading. I wonder how high they will try to pump their shitcoin.

Facts proved about price manipulation

1. Trading Bot was proven by bitcointalk and confirmed after Robin Linus asked them publicly to tell to the community if they run trading bots, and they said YES

2. They confirmed that they acquired coins from the market to pay community projects. Btw here are the community projects? Does any of them work? Is one working? Is any of them used by anybody

3. They confirmed that every month they acquire coins worth $35,000 to pay for developers.

4. They acquired 9.9% of WEG Bank. So they invested over 1 million dollar buying coins from the market

5. They announced that the WEG Bank acquisition is under NDA. Although we know that they acquired 9.9% for 1 million dollar investment, they don't want to tell us.

yes yes. RED FLAGS every were. project got deals with tokenpay (another proven scam that scammed bounty hunters for over 1 million dollar). did you know there is an entire thread about how tokenpay scammed hundrends of bounty hunters on bitcointalk. the shady business nimiq is doing it is just proving that robin linus was right when he said that the project was hijacked and turned into a scam. this is exactly what they do every day. they just want to scam other investors buying their worthless coin. now they want to scam even miners turning the coin into 100% pos explaining us that pow albatross can't be done. the project is a shit hole and a scam in the same time. bad bad project to scam people investing into icos.

[Nimiq]

New Exchanges: Bitladon/Bitcoin Meester

Nimiq welcomes Bitladon/Bitcoin Meester to the Nimiq Ecosystem!
A new and easy way to get NIM, serving users in the Netherlands.

Nimiq answer FUDDERS
Giving them the attention they deserve




What is this all about?
Nimiq is the first browser blockchain.
That means apps based on Nimiq can run directly in the browser of the user, locally, without the need of a server-side application.

Since its launch, this have been an informative/discussion thread for Nimiq-related topics.
In January these group of users were created with the sole purpose of spreading FUD in this thread:

nimiqshitcoin, coinfanatic, andrewjaxx, john.btc, sasha.new, Scamiq, Scamiq2, matthewgpu

As you might have noticed they always use unnecessarily aggressive language, huge red bold fonts and empty claims instead of serious questions.

Team Nimiq have answered here their non-factual claims. Also held a live Reddit AMA session recently where all questions were answered.
There is also a blog post with a  summary of the AMA.

Nimiq welcome all newcomers, invite them to ask questions, and would like to apologize for these users behavior and any inconvenience they might cause.

[Nimiq]

Facts proved about price manipulation

1. Trading Bot was proven by bitcointalk and confirmed after Robin Linus asked them publicly to tell to the community if they run trading bots, and they said YES

2. They confirmed that they acquired coins from the market to pay community projects. Btw here are the community projects? Does any of them work? Is one working? Is any of them used by anybody

3. They confirmed that every month they acquire coins worth $35,000 to pay for developers.

4. They acquired 9.9% of WEG Bank. So they invested over 1 million dollar buying coins from the market

5. They announced that the WEG Bank acquisition is under NDA. Although we know that they acquired 9.9% for 1 million dollar investment, they don't want to tell us.

As usual these are all lies.

1. There is no Trading Bot being used. As we answered in our AMA: "We did provide funds for market making on HitBTC in an initial test phase through a partner." This was when Nimiq was listed in HitBTC, September last year. Don't see how this is relevant more than half a year later.
2. That is not true, Nimiq has not bought any NIM to fund projects recently. So far only one project has received the funding they requested. That project is GetNIM, they were funded for 1 Million NIM. All information from Community Funding Board is published publicly in Nimiq's Blog.
3. That is also not true, the project doesn't buy a monthly fixed amount of NIM. We did confirm that Team Nimiq received part of their salaries in NIM which is something that you would expect from a cryptocurrency project.
4. No, that value is made up. Yes, Nimiq recently announced the project has acquired 9.9% WEG Bank. There was no mention of the amount in the announcent. However we did confirm Nimiq did not payed in NIM.
Why acquire part of a crypto project would acquire stake in a Bank?: As a result of this partnership and acquisition, Nimiq OASIS will be able to leverage the SEPA Instant banking network through WEG Bank. This means that the combination of Nimiq OASIS, Agora.Trade and WEG Bank could enable customers at any of the 2,000+ banks in the SEPA Instant network to exchange value between crypto and fiat systems. The SEPA Instant network currently connects the majority of EU countries including Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, and the United Kingdom.
5. No, this is not true. This value is just another assumption without any real information.

This user, as always, is just making stuff up to try to damage the reputation of Nimiq because of a second agenda. This user even went to the point of creating another thread to spread lies about WEG Bank. He got an answer from the CEO of WEG Bank. Curious to see his answer:

Dear "nimiqshitcoin",

please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Matthias von Hauff, I am the CEO of WEG Bank AG which you accuse in the wildest terms of being a "scam", "shady" and other pleasentries.

Under normal circumstances, I would not even credit your outburst of negativity with an answer. However, you have brought such amusement to my day that I only feel it fitting to return the favour. I hereby cordially invite you to visit us in our head quarters in Ottobrunn, which is just to the south of Munich. We will fly you to Munich from wherever you might be, grant you a one night stay in a luxury hotel and give you the opportunity to ask any questions you may have in a one hour time slot with me personally. We can gladly go through the accounts of the bank or any other documentation you would like to see. You will be meeting the team, have lunch with us and then be flown back to where you want.

Of course, speaking of having lunch: There is no such thing as a free lunch as we all know. In return for our generous invitation, you will consent to us filming your entire visit and to uploade it on youtube. You will also need to provide adequate proof, that you are in fact "nimiqshitcoin".

I am very much looking forward to your reply.

Sincerely

Matthias von Hauff

Anyone interested in answers can join Nimiq Telegram group and discuss with Real Users. Team Nimiq is transparent and community driven as any real user from the community can confirm. It is easy for users to see through the  lies and assumptions of these FUDERS. Real users in Bitcointalk have found out about that already:

(crying removed)

Stop crying. This coin is up 37% in the last 24 hours. What more do you want from it? It seems like the harder you cry, the higher it goes.

Everything you just said in MAXIMUM RED FONT is utter bullshit. Get a real job.

Prick. You made me post the email I have got

https://i.imgur.com/VP8u5BW.png

My source claims that they are the ones who are buying the coin. Namely, they bought coins worth 1 million usd to pay for 10% of WEG Bank. So, they are pumping their own coin.

Oh, I see you got an _email_. In that case your FUD must be legitimate.  

Nimiq is not doing another ICO.

You're clearly lying and it's honestly pathetic. Where is your evidence to make such claims? Isn't there something more positive for you to do with your life?

Some real news: Nimiq is coming to Binance's TrustWallet https://twitter.com/eddy_wm/status/1107776344862146561

Before you Sherlocks get all excited again: I work with Nimiq, that's also how I know there won't be another ICO.

Seriously, get a life.
 

where is robin linux ?? any idea where is robin ? i didn't hear him for over 3 months. where is he ?? dead or in a drug abuse detetion? where is the president of nimiq foundation? i couldn't see him talking about nimiq, but stil he is president and probably he still get a nice sallary for doing... nothing actualy.. so where is robin linux, the pothead ?

They announced months ago:

"Robin is no longer considered a part of Team Nimiq and his views and opinions do not reflect or speak on behalf of the project or its members."

FUDERS gonna FUD   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYruzoLJEu8&feature=youtu.be

Team Nimiq works only for about 2 days a month

Why do you keep repeating the same things over and over and over again in huge red fonts? You look absolutely insane. Anybody who engages in that tactic is a legitimate moron. Frankly it doesn't matter what project you would have invested your money in besides this one, I'm sure you would have lost it all by now anyway.

The price of this coin has almost doubled in the last 2 months, so what are you crying about every day?

Prick. You made me post the email I have got



My source claims that they are the ones who are buying the coin. Namely, they bought coins worth 1 million usd to pay for 10% of WEG Bank. So, they are pumping their own coin.

You should definitely check your sources, because this email was not written by a native German (grammar is utterly incorrect). Looks more like Google Translate results. But why would your source want to look like it was German if it wasn't? Maybe because your source is fake...

Oh wait, maybe even you whole screenshot is fake: If you look closely you can see that the subject line (starting with a bold "Betreff:") does not align, as if a person just inserted something after the screenshot was made. Also in the very first line "Betreff" uses antialiasing but "RE: INFO" doesn't. Oh and the subject in the bold subject line is "RE:INFO" and in the first line is "RE: INFO" (with additional space).
All-in-all a pretty bad fake screenshot, maybe put some more energy in it next time you want to prove your FUD with a fake screenshot....

Great job dissecting the fake screen shot. I'm sure he'll do a better job next time! These guys are not just casual Fudders but actually dedicated by investing time and effort into it.
 

I do feel bad for you guys. Earlier when you guys complained about it in Reputation as them being fudders, I disagreed, but now I'm completely on your side. You're being hounded by some exceptionally vocal and idiotic trolls. The only thing you can do is report the posts with HUGE RED FONT for trolling, unfortunately.

I reported one just now as trolling is against the official forum rules. If it gets deleted, then I would say its a good tactic for dealing with them in the future. If enough of their posts get deleted for trolling, you can bet they'll also be banned.

Nimiq answer FUDDERS
Giving them the attention they deserve




What is this all about?
Nimiq is the first browser blockchain.
That means apps based on Nimiq can run directly in the browser of the user, locally, without the need of a server-side application.

Since its launch, this have been an informative/discussion thread for Nimiq-related topics.
In January these group of users were created with the sole purpose of spreading FUD in this thread:

nimiqshitcoin, coinfanatic, andrewjaxx, john.btc, sasha.new, Scamiq, Scamiq2, matthewgpu

As you might have noticed they always use unnecessarily aggressive language, huge red bold fonts and empty claims instead of serious questions.

Team Nimiq has answered here their non-factual claims. Also held a live Reddit AMA session recently where all questions were answered.
There is also a blog post with a  summary of the AMA.

Nimiq welcome all newcomers, invite them to ask questions, and would like to apologize for these users behavior and any inconvenience they might cause.

[matthewgpu]

I HAVE RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING INTERNAL INFORMATION WHO WANTS TO BE ANONYMOUS.

Nimiq signed a deal with WAG Bank to PAY 1 MILLION DOLLAR FOR 9.9% OF WEG Bank with an evaluation of a "bank" of only 10 million dollars. But the deal is not in Fiat or Eth or BTC. The deal was in Nimiq. Because team nimiq didn't own enough coins just 10% of the 1 million USD deal in nimiq, they started buying coins from the market on HitBTC. The entire pump is caused only by NIMIQ / WEG BANK buying over ~ 1 billion coins from the market. This is the sure way to lose money: buy your own coin buying high and selling low.

Wow. This smells so much like market manipulation bullshit. Also possible insider trading. I wonder how high they will try to pump their shitcoin.

Facts proved about price manipulation

1. Trading Bot was proven by bitcointalk and confirmed after Robin Linus asked them publicly to tell to the community if they run trading bots, and they said YES

2. They confirmed that they acquired coins from the market to pay community projects. Btw here are the community projects? Does any of them work? Is one working? Is any of them used by anybody

3. They confirmed that every month they acquire coins worth $35,000 to pay for developers.

4. They acquired 9.9% of WEG Bank. So they invested over 1 million dollar buying coins from the market

5. They announced that the WEG Bank acquisition is under NDA. Although we know that they acquired 9.9% for 1 million dollar investment, they don't want to tell us.

yes yes. RED FLAGS every were. project got deals with tokenpay (another proven scam that scammed bounty hunters for over 1 million dollar). did you know there is an entire thread about how tokenpay scammed hundrends of bounty hunters on bitcointalk. the shady business nimiq is doing it is just proving that robin linus was right when he said that the project was hijacked and turned into a scam. this is exactly what they do every day. they just want to scam other investors buying their worthless coin. now they want to scam even miners turning the coin into 100% pos explaining us that pow albatross can't be done. the project is a shit hole and a scam in the same time. bad bad project to scam people investing into icos.

This shit is getting really serious about the scam nimiq is doing. From what I see on bitcointalk nimiq found its only partnership two companies with really shady history and background.

1. Agora trade which is solely focused is to do an ICO. They don't have anything else in mind, just pushing their agenda with ICO and raise funds from other people scamming them investing into another worthless crypto project.

2. WEG Bank - which is a god damn shady bank with no products, no service and of course no customers. Just remember that WEG Bank partnered up with TokenPay another well known ICO scam which got over 20 million in funding promising things that they have never delivered. They just uploaded a fork of POSv3 with nothing else. The explorer is not showing any anonymous transaction, etc. They also promise something that doesn't exist.

The shit is going nuts now. Don't forget Robin Linus which clearly started that nimiq was turned into a scam by his colleagues. This behavior makes me believe that they are just milking the ico for their own profits.