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June 08, 2017, 04:12:09 PM
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Dev algo  Huh Huh Huh Huh!!!!
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June 08, 2017, 04:24:31 PM
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when to launch at platform ?
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June 08, 2017, 04:25:34 PM
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let this good coin be traded at Bittrex or Poloniex, they are both good exchanges which the traded volumes are good and sustainable.                                                                                                           
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June 08, 2017, 04:33:24 PM
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Nice to see the new ANN for Elastic . It was about time .
Translation  thread for Elastic in Greek section is up : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1957435.msg19441140#msg19441140 .
Keep up the great work devs and community .

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June 08, 2017, 04:35:20 PM
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Thank you for the new thread ! Maybe include in the Op that there are no bounties etc. Otherwise it will get spammed

Very good advice, or everything is spamed by the bountywhores  Grin Grin
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June 08, 2017, 04:45:17 PM
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Our new home!

Website (work in progress) : http://www.elastic.pw/

Visit our forum! : https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/

XEL Explorer (Testnet) : http://elasticexplorer.org/

This OP will be updated regularly and info added step by step.

Old, abandoned thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1396233

PS: At the moment, no bounties.

No detailed info in the OP. No info on the official website.

Who are the devs of this project? Any roadmap?
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June 08, 2017, 04:51:58 PM
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Website updated :
- new logo applied
- new color applied
- new posts added (about logo and new ann thread)
- urls updated to secure urls (https links*)

https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/t/we-need-a-good-website/133/16?u=byrallier

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June 08, 2017, 04:52:29 PM
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Dev algo  Huh Huh Huh Huh!!!!

WTF are you talking about?Huh  Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

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June 08, 2017, 04:54:17 PM
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Website updated :
- new logo applied
- new color applied
- new posts added (about logo and new ann thread)
- urls updated to secure urls (https links*)

https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/t/we-need-a-good-website/133/16?u=byrallier
It's beautiful & professional. Awesome job , Thank you !

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June 08, 2017, 05:07:38 PM
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Dev algo  Huh Huh Huh Huh!!!!

WTF are you talking about?Huh  Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

I'm talking about the algorithm
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June 08, 2017, 05:14:06 PM
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Dev algo  Huh Huh Huh Huh!!!!

WTF are you talking about?Huh  Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

I'm talking about the algorithm

There is still no question, information or actual point that I can see there.

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June 08, 2017, 05:17:28 PM
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Guess who's back in town?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=245263
Does he know he is more than invited to visit?


Thanks! It is nice to be noticed!  Grin

I've been lurking, and still following the progress of XEL closely week to week.  Unfortunately I can't say that I've been particularly happy to see where it has been headed, personally.  IMO the decision to partially re-centralize with bonded master-nodes and the decision to launch a "lite wallet" token are both likely mis-steps.

Having 0 stake in XEL it is obviously not my business, but I had held high hopes... and now I have little but worry for E-K's work ever making it out into the world in a form that is anything like what he would have really intended.

I've been thinking a lot, lately, about a the idea of a relatively simple variant of the earlier XEL design which might address several of the concerns with the model, particularly with regard to the PoW rewards.  It would eschew a dedicated programming language, in favor of a machine model, but at the same time make for a more consistent work calculation and allow for some additional assurances.  It may not be something I ever pursue further but I am ever more convinced (though still not quite 100%) that the whole thing might even actually be possible after all.

I guess with masternodes you mean so called SNs (supernodes), right? Well, I didn't like them too. Not sure if it's possible at all at this stage, but perhaps with your support, it could be possible to think it over again, and get rid of those special nodes.

The great thing about an open source project like this is that any developer can take it any direction they'd like as long as the community adopts it.

I'm open to ideas other than the SNs, just keep in mind there are a lot of constraints that need to be met.  So if people have alternate solutions for how a distributed network can fully validate the POW / Bounty submissions without creating a bottleneck, please provide your ideas.

I've also pitched a couple of alternate ideas to EK, but really he's pretty busy right now so this would probably be the best opportunity to revisit this topic before he has time to work on the Core Server again.

One last thing...regardless of what we do, maybe it would be best to change the name of it...even in the current design it's not a SuperNode the way other blockchains think of it.  It's simply a Core Server node that has the ability to run the ElasticPL engine to validate POW / Bounty submissions.
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June 08, 2017, 05:18:22 PM
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Dev algo  Huh Huh Huh Huh!!!!

WTF are you talking about?Huh  Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

I'm talking about the algorithm

The algorithm is whatever the work author can dream up and code in ElasticPL...so XEL supports an infinite # of algorithms.
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June 08, 2017, 05:20:47 PM
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Hi mprep,

We lost OP of our thread so we created new one and we want to close old one:

Old one is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1396233.6800

Can you lock it? Thanks!
Unless you have access over the OP, I can't lock it.

So mod of this category (Announcements (Altcoins)) can't lock this thread for us. We just need to point people from old thread to new one.

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June 08, 2017, 05:29:21 PM
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is the lightwallet out yet ?
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June 08, 2017, 05:31:42 PM
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No. Still in progress. Soon ™

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June 08, 2017, 05:37:41 PM
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https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/t/we-need-a-good-website/133/18?u=byrallier

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I need to some content:
-Why Elastic
-What is different other projects
-roadmap
-revised whitepaper
-faq (https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/t/faq-for-the-website/122)


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June 08, 2017, 05:40:09 PM
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Website updated :
- new logo applied
- new color applied
- new posts added (about logo and new ann thread)
- urls updated to secure urls (https links*)

https://talk.elasticexplorer.org/t/we-need-a-good-website/133/16?u=byrallier

So here's some txt for you that I've cobbled together for the website.  We might need EK to just check that it's accurate.

What is Elastic?[/b]/size]
What can Elastic do?
With Elastic, instead of specific use cases, a use case has to be coded by the user of the system in Elastic's own programming language - Elastic PL. It is similar to C but with limited functionality so it can be guaranteed that Elastic code can be executed on other machines without causing any harm. You can write a program in Elastic PL and be sure that if executed correctly, no exploits, no endless loops, no data leakage.

So while  Elastic is more flexible in designing tasks, it does not perform better for one particular use case over other systems. With other super computer models, If you want to do 6 different tasks you need 6 separate use cases. With Elastic you can do them all at once.  As the Elastic PL is further developed, so the diversity of tasks will become more complex.  Currently, only tasks which explore a search space can be performed, and not tasks which are divided into multiple packages (like rendering divides a large image into many smaller tiles).

Elastic PL will get better over time with the flexibility that Elastic PL provides.  The system is built and designed this way from ground up to allow user configurable tasks.  This makes Elastic the only system that currently offer this.  The potential of Elastic is basically limitless.

Other design features
The current system is absolutely trustless. That means that there is no central authority verifying anything (such as all BOINC based coins, which rely on an external service controlled by a single entity and which could become rogue and cripple the entire coin), so we at Elastic have to make sure every node in the network verifies work by itself.  To further act as a safeguard, Super Nodes check work processed by the nodes and a final level of security is in the Guard Nodes that check that the SuperNodes are doing their job.

So we have:
Normal nodes that broadcast unverified POW/bounties
Super nodes that verify work and broadcast the verified POW/bounties
Guard nodes that cross verify a certain percentage of the super node’s signed POW/bounties to detect malicious behaviour
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June 08, 2017, 05:46:13 PM
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Hi, how can I get my hands on XEL tokens?


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June 08, 2017, 05:49:30 PM
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how can I get my hands on XEL tokens?Huh
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