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January 19, 2018, 08:50:43 PM
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Before you buy the A3, Halong Mining / DragonMint are now coming out with their own Blake(2b) ASIC.

No price nor date yet, BUT 3.5TH  THAT'S ~4.5X BITMAIN'S A3 and Obelisk's SC1 !!!!!!

https://halongmining.com/shop/dragonmint-b52-blake2b-miner



There are conisdereable questions on if these guys are even legit....my view is it is unlikely

you can watch the battle on legit or not on this thread

myself..not touching any flavor asic from these guys...if for no other reason even IF legit ..they sure played it the wrong way

on promoting the product

now with the sudden announcement that they too have a blake2b miner...well.....I'm even more dubious

anyway, my take on this

link to the thread on this battle of legit or not

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January 19, 2018, 09:20:53 PM
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Need to change this thread name to "Third Asic for SIA"  Grin Grin Grin
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January 20, 2018, 01:37:07 AM
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Need to change the thread title to Nebulous/Obelisk donations only and you get a doorstop in return. A t-shirt if you're lucky Wink
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January 20, 2018, 04:27:07 AM
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Need to change this thread name to "Third Asic for SIA"  Grin Grin Grin
that's really funny xD

my 2c on the subject of siacoin / soft fork / hard fork / bitmain antminer a3 / obelisk tech sc1 if anyone's interested

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February 03, 2018, 04:48:53 PM
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I'm seriously considering getting 5 PSU's from Bitmain (evil I know but the PSU's are good....even though, bitmain being evil they arrive 2 months after your miners..be aware!)

Anyway, I've yet to see an ASIC miner-manufacturer of any flavor coin, ship a decent PSU with their units (with the possible exception of spondoolies)

Thus, I think sometime before they ship (a month or two) I will get the above Bitmain Units as a 'hedge' and just sell the Obelisk PSU units on Ebay or use them on other stuff.

Just saying, (this of course IF by the time the obelisk's arrive they are not doorstops due to difficulty and price....if that is the case, its easy, just leave them in the box as

doorstops, cardboard slides around easier for such use anyway) Sad

again, what I'm thinking as a KNOWN PSU ...get it ahead....as a hedge..... (my need for equipment deductions are getting extreme indeed!)

been caught with the crummy PSU hedge before....if I lose a bit selling the bitmain psu's on ebay and/or the obelisk units, so be it

they already told me the obelisk PSU's will be external (see email below)

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Hello Brad,

Our PSU will be external to the Obelisk. We are guaranteeing it to be 500 watts or less, unfortunately, we do not have any efficiency information at this time, but it is our goal to deliver an efficient PSU.

You are more than welcome to use your PSU if it is compatible with the Obelisk, but all of our Obelisk ship with the PSU so we do not have a way to shipping you one without it.

We have not yet finalized our design so I cannot give any specific details on the specifications of the Obelisk or the PSU, this information will be available before our first batch ships.

I hope this helps, please let me know if you have any more questions.


Thanks,

Grant Crawford
Customer Specialist


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Note: If doorstop....I'm gonna get one of those 'sport t-shirt' large glass framed units...to hang the t-shirt on the wall (like if it was signed). Supposedly my Sia T-Shirt is in the mail

as I write this.

Then a small plaque underneath saying: "I Ordered FIVE Obelisk SC-1 SiaCoin (SC) Miners And All I Got Was This Lousy T-Shirt!

Something like this:




Tasteful, yet depressing. Sad

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Fixed thread subject.
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February 03, 2018, 06:07:47 PM
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Before you buy the A3, Halong Mining / DragonMint are now coming out with their own Blake(2b) ASIC.

No price nor date yet, BUT 3.5TH  THAT'S ~4.5X BITMAIN'S A3 and Obelisk's SC1 !!!!!!

https://halongmining.com/shop/dragonmint-b52-blake2b-miner


They have not shown a 'reputable' video/demo or any 3rd party review of ANY of their products.....even though they have probably have 3 batches

of pre-sale for their 'supposed' BTC miner. Also you can only order in lots of 5 units. So not to excited to jump on this train yet, for obvious *maybe*

scam reasons.


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Anybody here ordered the Obelisk SC1? I see they are already at Batch 3. And is it correct that the Price reduces with every Batch? How many Batches will there be?

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March 16, 2018, 05:11:32 PM
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Anybody here ordered the Obelisk SC1? I see they are already at Batch 3. And is it correct that the Price reduces with every Batch? How many Batches will there be?

Yes, price reduces with every batch.   I was considering to order one piece but after Bitmain launched thier I decided that was a useless idea.
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March 22, 2018, 10:40:59 PM
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Anybody here ordered the Obelisk SC1? I see they are already at Batch 3. And is it correct that the Price reduces with every Batch? How many Batches will there be?

Not necessary, price was increase recently.

Probably depend on a lot of factor.

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April 20, 2018, 07:17:32 AM
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Hey. Anyone have a ‘reputable’ obelisk sc1 calculator?

Links?

The ones I have tried are fantasyland 🤡

Edit: 800gh @ 500 Watts.

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April 20, 2018, 07:45:02 AM
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Hey. Anyone have a ‘reputable’ obelisk sc1 calculator?

Links?

The ones I have tried are fantasyland 🤡

Edit: 800gh @ 500 Watts.

check the below one. I used it when Bitmain just started producing A3 for comparison, and it was quote good, as i remember.

http://sialytics.com/
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hey guys, just fyi - SC1 will bring only 500Gh instead of promised "at least 800Gh"
how do you like that?
So is Bitmain so shitty vendor after all?
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May 12, 2018, 04:00:35 AM
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Hey. Anyone have a ‘reputable’ obelisk sc1 calculator?

Links?

The ones I have tried are fantasyland 🤡

Edit: 800gh @ 500 Watts.

check the below one. I used it when Bitmain just started producing A3 for comparison, and it was quote good, as i remember.

http://sialytics.com/

sorry that calc is a bunch of whooee...IMHO...does do not take into account all the bitmain batches/toasters/etc, says I will ROI in 129 days..yeah right...

or from what I can tell...unless I'm supposed to delete the side batches and don't know how to run the beta version of such

as to the revised LOWER stats I called it that chip maker that obelisk uses..is a joke...they messed up 9 months of wafers for BFL Labs in 2013 and looks like they messed

up the last 2 runs of wafers for obelisk folk too boot....not to mention, like BFL under speck by about 1/3.....same old, same old...

I bet the PSU's IF we get them with these units are crap city..my bet is SUDDENLY we will be required to provide our own PSU's which is usually the case on ASIC

units offered with PSU from the get go...

ah well, the latest/best/or top end Bitmain L3+ pow-scrypt miner is making me 77c per day now after electric...so if the biggest supplier of ASIC's and their current the

last generation of that ASIC flavor mining LTC can't make it..it is hard to see how puny Obelisk is gonna pull a rabbit out of the hat for us....(without forking the bitmain

units...which is a no go)

Again, beyond dire for any type of mining IMHO...FML...

anyway, looking like ASIC units of ANY FLAVOR are gonna be under water in a couple months anyway.....not looking good is an understatment..

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anyway, looking like ASIC units of ANY FLAVOR are gonna be under water in a couple months anyway.....not looking good is an understatment..
But what if crypto prices will irncrease in prices? Won't the same situation happen as was last year, when ASIC miners were bringing good return.
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Need to change the thread title to Nebulous/Obelisk donations only and you get a doorstop in return. A t-shirt if you're lucky Wink

Well, on my 'dubious' 5 Sia Obelisk sc-1 units' I did get 5 1/2 coupons and did get for them ONE 2nd batch? (800 bucks after coupon) unit for free...

so I suppose there are others on here that may have done the same in some manner...but it is rather a drastic way to get a decred miner for my efforts...

Again, I expect a 2nd batch siacoin miner from Bitmain with less watts and a Bitmain decred miner before the obelisk units of any ASIC flavor ship

Being Bitmain and sensing weakness (no fork) they will go for the kill and, IMHO, try to acquire 90% of the sia unts on any sia decentralized storage feature

it is how they roll (bitmain that is) as to the decred miners..I've heard it is not much of a tweak to do this ..thus I'd expect those units before

the 2nd batch of sia coin obelisk 1st ship units...we will see....but posting my views on here...I think this likely.


anyway, looking like ASIC units of ANY FLAVOR are gonna be under water in a couple months anyway.....not looking good is an understatment..
But what if crypto prices will irncrease in prices? Won't the same situation happen as was last year, when ASIC miners were bringing good return.

This is true..but that is the classic problem on pre-orders of equipment....IF the price pumps...you have no need to get equipment..you can ride the crypto wave

without risk and hold coin...the only way you get equipment is IF you can get the equipment before everyone else (1st in line on 1st batch of new asic product)

or you say 'attic mine' some stuff out of the attic and sell it on ebay and maybe buy equipment that way...since Fall of 2017 it has made NO SENSE to pay for

equipment with crypto mined or hoarded....especially with BTC say going up 12x and such...so the choices with equip is

1) do better than roi or if you just got your crypto and held

2) break even on equip vs crypto used

3) lose crypto if no price pump

with places like bitmain selling their stuff in mass quantities (25k or above batches) and their prices (reflecting price) or if price really pumps (like summer of 2017)

they claim firmware update on your equip already owned and to be shipped (had invoice) and mine it for 6 weeks making LTC diff go up 30% ..then ship NOT with

'supposed' JUNE 2018 firmware upgrade but the same JANUARY 2018 firmware as the stuff gotten previously..and of course

4) the pre-order 3 months or more all equip ASIC makers due and watch the price of crypto paid go up 3x to 8x by the time you get it (2017)

no angle you can play that works in your favor

THE ONLY ANGLE YOU HAVE NOW IS IF THE PRICE PUMPS OF YOU CRYPTO OF CHOICE AND ASIC FLAVOR OF CHOICE DEVICE ARRIVING 3-6 MONTHS IN THE FUTURE

So, if you are NOW (these days 2018) counting on a price pump....that all can be changed on a whim (weekly price, amount of units, take away units to mine your

self, etc)

Again, no legit firm angle you can take ...too many variables as we are seeing on our 1-year obelisk sc1 units...

(ah, 2017 when I had so much cash flowing in monthly, I really needed the equip deduction of 5 units as a hedge....those were the days.....damn!)

Anyway, IMHO, 2018 keep the asic coin and hold (unless you can get a free decred miner for a mess of dubious obelisks sc-1 coupons (5 in my case)

less angst then getting equip, less risk, probably more coin in the long run.....again with bitmain being a monopoly and changing price weekly and amount of units

of even getting a unit (ie shipping them out like toasters) and pre-orders taking to long and also the possible price pump you MIGHT see in your choice of crypto

in the 3 months till you got your pre-order miners (making it 3x as expensive maybe on a crypto price pump of 3x)

No angle I can see anymore ...maybe used asic equipment..maybe masternodes or pos coins that stake like mining....no angles I feel safe with at this point in time.


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May 13, 2018, 12:03:17 AM
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SC1 is now making $2.3 and it’s not even out. Just Wow.
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SC1 is now making $2.3 and it’s not even out. Just Wow.
Terrible.  Glad I did not make same mistake as with D3s, which will never return investment.  I was reallly planning to order a few Obelisk miners, but experience with D3caused me to stop...  Unless a person comes over such situation personally he will never learn.  
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SC1 is now making $2.3 and it’s not even out. Just Wow.

Yeah, doorstops....because their 'supposed' decentralized network for storage...is NOT gonna work to well with all them Bitmain toasters and the rest....more ASIC's then

the coin and their network plans, that can support price rise, IMHO...

oh well, live and learn, need to make about $4k to match me paying the IRS anyway (and my state taxes) and the 25% equipment deduction on my FIVE of these....probably

Not, do'able....so now what? Shoot for $2k before they become FULL BRICKS and call it a $2k loss instead (2017)for the fiasco? We will be the first to know I guess...


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May 19, 2018, 01:59:59 AM
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Well that is all she wrote, boys and girls....innosilicon has out a decred and siacoin miner available now

http://www.innosilicon.com/html/s11-miner/index.html Siacoin miner

http://www.innosilicon.com/html/d9-miner/index.html Decred miner

details in link below..they are spendy.....but out in the world

so looks like my 5 obelisk sc-1's and the 1 obelisk decred miner (got free for my 5 1/2 off coupons) all of them I may be able to just

leave in the cardboard box (for ease of doorstop use in moving them about)

I mean Sia Obelisk SC-1 is shipping 'supposedly' in July 'as the chips are available' (can you say iffy)

and my 2nd batch I think it was (the $800 buck) decred unit...available ...like the middle of sept 18...won't even make me $$$ after electric also likely

well, live an learn...so looking at out of 12K+ paid ... 'in real money, as opposed to taxes" about a 4k loss ...if they mine zip

so it goes....looks like I'm completely out of mining by end of July 2018 at best (bitmain L3+ 'top of line latest consumer ver you can get' pow-scrypt

miner makes me 56c a day...after electric...with difficulty at about 30% a month now)

SO ALL MINING of any ASIC FLAVOR of the ASIC MINERS FOLK ARE MINING AS OF NOW.....seem likely to 'fade' faster in difficulty then price per

your coin of choice....them's the breaks....a clean sweep....so ONLY miners you may be able to ROI at this year..you likely will start over and buy

sometime in the Fall......again clean sweep it seems ....of any asic flavor equipment me thinks..

brad

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