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December 28, 2013, 06:42:57 AM |
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Gliss: You are scamming people who want to invest based on market caps. If some one wants to invest in the "second biggest coin", he is fooled by you to think its Ripple. But in reality its Litecoin.
Man, how many accounts do u have? I already added ~10 ur suckpuppets into ignore list...
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antonioffaxii
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December 28, 2013, 06:44:01 AM |
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Gliss: You are scamming people who want to invest based on market caps. If some one wants to invest in the "second biggest coin", he is fooled by you to think its Ripple. But in reality its Litecoin.
People should be researching before investing. Not basing their entire decision off one website. This a good tool to use as part of that research. Gliss isn't scamming anyone. He is just trying to be unbias in a divided community.
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stas
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December 28, 2013, 07:10:41 AM |
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Added LottoCoin and Catcoin. Don't support this scam site. Gliss is connected to Ripple, NXT and MasterCoin scammers.
I've already explained my position here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199685.msg4153544#msg4153544Aside from the first 8 coins that the site launched with, every other coin has been added because of requests by the community. If you have nothing constructive to say please don't post here and clutter up the thread. good. thanks.
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December 28, 2013, 07:12:59 AM |
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Man, how many accounts do u have? I already added ~10 ur suckpuppets into ignore list...
You are the most ignored account on this board, I just looked you up. Think about it ...
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Come-from-Beyond
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December 28, 2013, 07:16:54 AM |
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Man, how many accounts do u have? I already added ~10 ur suckpuppets into ignore list...
You are the most ignored account on this board, I just looked you up. Think about it ... I know. Coz I troll trolls and when they can't counteract my arguments they just hit [Ignore] button. Think about it...
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dfox101
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December 28, 2013, 07:22:24 AM |
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Added LottoCoin and Catcoin. Don't support this scam site. Gliss is connected to Ripple, NXT and MasterCoin scammers.
I've already explained my position here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199685.msg4153544#msg4153544Aside from the first 8 coins that the site launched with, every other coin has been added because of requests by the community. If you have nothing constructive to say please don't post here and clutter up the thread. Add Earthcoin?
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tobobit
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December 28, 2013, 07:23:36 AM |
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its ok. There's alternative to this site that doesn't list scamcoins like nxt and ripple
cryptomarketcap.com
gliss just made opportunity for competition. competition is good for the long term. I just feel sorry for the noobs that fall for the scam coins.
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X68N
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December 28, 2013, 07:26:58 AM |
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@ Gliss
Your site is/was seen as a Benchmark which cryptocoin gain in popularity (measured by mined coins * last price)
Now you added Ripple,Nxt,MasterCoin to the list which work like the direct opposite of Bitcoin . They are centralised and "minted" = not mined.
So comparing a digital Currency which is minted vs. one which need time to be mined is like cheating in a benchmark comparison, because the measurement is distorted. Its like comparing the IQ of a kid with an developped adult. (coin amount needs growing time vs. all coins aviable). It is just biased.
The curiosity is, "biased" is used as argument against the people who point on the fact the to types of currencies can not be compared on one page.
I hope i could explained the problem.
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DieJohnny
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December 28, 2013, 07:29:47 AM |
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Please add some additional indicators:
1. Some type of bitcoin correlation. I want to see what coins are the LEAST tied to BTC prices. If i want to hedge against Bitcoin what would I choose. 2. Some type of momentum indicator. I would imagine market cap, total coins, and volume would be involved in the calculation. Then factor in a bonus for last two weeks performance. Out of sheer size and actual use, I would expect BTC to be at the top of this list until a true competitor starts to emerge. But this indicator would tell me what Coins are actually developing their own market and not just being used as entries into Bitcoin.
The one thing that is lost in your website and I think can be incredibly misleading to investors is the actual liquidity of each coin. For example, many crypto currency owners have more than $100k fiat in crypto. If you choose a low volume coin to invest in, then your single purchase can represent half or more of total volume for those currencies, which is a risk.
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Those who hold and those who are without property have ever formed distinct interests in society
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December 28, 2013, 07:35:52 AM |
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@ Gliss
Your site is/was seen as a Benchmark which cryptocoin gain in popularity (measured but mined coins * last price)
Now you added Ripple,Nxt,MasterCoin to the list which work like the direct opposite of Bitcoin . They are centralised and "minted" = not mined.
So comparing a digital Currency which is minted vs. one which need time to be mined is like cheating in a benchmark comparison, because the measurement is distorted=biased. Its like comparing the IQ of a kid with an developped adult. (coin amount needs growing time vs. all coins aviable). It is just biased.
The curiosity is, "biased" is used as argument against the people who point on the fact the to types of currencies can not be compared on one page.
I hope i could explained the problem.
Value comes from what people are willing to pay for each coin. Investors have varied opinions on what will succeed, and what constitutes strong fundamentals. Competing currencies with diverse fundamentals is a good thing. It drives innovation. Let the markets sort it out.
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DieJohnny
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December 28, 2013, 07:37:06 AM |
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Your position is sound, however, your implementation of your website does not address any of the concerns about these alternative coins. You could very easily provide a category column, or status column with a link to explain the values in the category or status. Or maybe simply a new metric, "Coins left to mine". An even better option is that due to the popularity of your site you can be the one that creates the vocabulary that differentiates between currencies. Sure there would be arguing about the vocabulary but the world needs a way to differentiate between these coins. Without these additional bits of information to differentiate coins like NXT and Ripple, you have a large risk of losing the support of the community at large and a newer page with more information can take over rather quickly.
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DieJohnny
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December 28, 2013, 07:40:49 AM |
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Value comes from what people are willing to pay for each coin. Investors have varied opinions on what will succeed, and what constitutes strong fundamentals.
Competing currencies with diverse fundamentals is a good thing. It drives innovation. Let the markets sort it out.
Value is a funny thing, what has or doesn't have value can be swayed by marketing, a powerful broadcaster, or the positioning of a coin on a website. How truly valuable are coins that have billions owned, but only a few hundred thousand dollars traded each day. Is the coin really that valuable, or are all the "coin holders" just waiting until there are enough "believers" that they can have a nice pay day.
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December 28, 2013, 07:41:26 AM |
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Glad to see Ripple back.
Why?! It is an innovative system that offers something fundamentally different than Bitcoin and most Alt Coins.
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tobobit
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December 28, 2013, 07:43:19 AM |
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Your position is sound, however, your implementation of your website does not address any of the concerns about these alternative coins. You could very easily provide a category column, or status column with a link to explain the values in the category or status. Or maybe simply a new metric, "Coins left to mine". An even better option is that due to the popularity of your site you can be the one that creates the vocabulary that differentiates between currencies. Sure there would be arguing about the vocabulary but the world needs a way to differentiate between these coins. Without these additional bits of information to differentiate coins like NXT and Ripple, you have a large risk of losing the support of the community at large and a newer page with more information can take over rather quickly. too late. he is already losing support of the community and gaining the support of shills for scamcoins. site reputation is already called into question and damaged. CRYPTOmarketCap.com for a LEGIT market cap without the scamcoins.
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X68N
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December 28, 2013, 07:43:26 AM |
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@ Gliss
Your site is/was seen as a Benchmark which cryptocoin gain in popularity (measured but mined coins * last price)
Now you added Ripple,Nxt,MasterCoin to the list which work like the direct opposite of Bitcoin . They are centralised and "minted" = not mined.
So comparing a digital Currency which is minted vs. one which need time to be mined is like cheating in a benchmark comparison, because the measurement is distorted=biased. Its like comparing the IQ of a kid with an developped adult. (coin amount needs growing time vs. all coins aviable). It is just biased.
The curiosity is, "biased" is used as argument against the people who point on the fact the to types of currencies can not be compared on one page.
I hope i could explained the problem.
Value comes from what people are willing to pay for each coin. Investors have varied opinions on what will succeed, and what constitutes strong fundamentals. Competing currencies with diverse fundamentals is a good thing. It drives innovation. Let the markets sort it out. Hello, your comment seems not to address anything i mentioned. I have no problem with competition. The point is the the distorted listing which is caused by the 2 different designs of cryptocurrencies. Glad to see Ripple back.
Why?! It is an innovative system that offers something fundamentally different than Bitcoin and most Alt Coins. Yeah, bring the Federal Reserve to the internet. wow, well done copycat.
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December 28, 2013, 07:45:20 AM |
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Value is a funny thing, what has or doesn't have value can be swayed by marketing, a powerful broadcaster, or the positioning of a coin on a website.
Agreed. Consider DOGE. Let the markets sort it out. How truly valuable are coins that have billions owned, but only a few hundred thousand dollars traded each day. Is the coin really that valuable, or are all the "coin holders" just waiting until there are enough "believers" that they can have a nice pay day.
I have heard the same thing regarding Bitcoin, countless times, and still today hear the same basic shape of that argument from people outside the Bitcoin community. If people do not believe the coin is that valuable, then they do not have to invest in it. Are people threatened by Ripple?
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December 28, 2013, 07:46:00 AM |
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@ Gliss
Your site is/was seen as a Benchmark which cryptocoin gain in popularity (measured but mined coins * last price)
Now you added Ripple,Nxt,MasterCoin to the list which work like the direct opposite of Bitcoin . They are centralised and "minted" = not mined.
So comparing a digital Currency which is minted vs. one which need time to be mined is like cheating in a benchmark comparison, because the measurement is distorted=biased. Its like comparing the IQ of a kid with an developped adult. (coin amount needs growing time vs. all coins aviable). It is just biased.
The curiosity is, "biased" is used as argument against the people who point on the fact the to types of currencies can not be compared on one page.
I hope i could explained the problem.
Value comes from what people are willing to pay for each coin. Investors have varied opinions on what will succeed, and what constitutes strong fundamentals. Competing currencies with diverse fundamentals is a good thing. It drives innovation. Let the markets sort it out. Hello, your comment seems not to address anything i mentioned. I have no problem with competition. The point is the the distorted listing which is caused by the 2 different designs of cryptocurrencies. just go to CRYPTOmarketCAP.com (btw I have nothing to do with that site, just don't like seeing people supporting known scams like ripple and nxt) support a scam= you are a scam too
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December 28, 2013, 07:48:44 AM |
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@ Gliss
Your site is/was seen as a Benchmark which cryptocoin gain in popularity (measured but mined coins * last price)
Now you added Ripple,Nxt,MasterCoin to the list which work like the direct opposite of Bitcoin . They are centralised and "minted" = not mined.
So comparing a digital Currency which is minted vs. one which need time to be mined is like cheating in a benchmark comparison, because the measurement is distorted=biased. Its like comparing the IQ of a kid with an developped adult. (coin amount needs growing time vs. all coins aviable). It is just biased.
The curiosity is, "biased" is used as argument against the people who point on the fact the to types of currencies can not be compared on one page.
I hope i could explained the problem.
Value comes from what people are willing to pay for each coin. Investors have varied opinions on what will succeed, and what constitutes strong fundamentals. Competing currencies with diverse fundamentals is a good thing. It drives innovation. Let the markets sort it out. Hello, your comment seems not to address anything i mentioned. I have no problem with competition. The point is the the distorted listing which is caused by the 2 different designs of cryptocurrencies. Glad to see Ripple back.
Why?! It is an innovative system that offers something fundamentally different than Bitcoin and most Alt Coins. Yeah, bring the Federal Reserve to the internet. wow, well done copycat. How is it in any way distorted if that is the price people are willing to pay? Ripple has performed well, even prior to being re-listed. Check the charts.
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December 28, 2013, 07:50:18 AM |
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just go to CRYPTOmarketCAP.com (btw I have nothing to do with that site, just don't like seeing people supporting known scams like ripple and nxt)
support a scam= you are a scam too
What is the scam? http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/scam?s=tIt is just a different system, and those differences are made transparently clear. I see no one attempting to scam anyone. By all means, do not invest if you do not consider it a good investment!
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