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July 29, 2017, 05:17:37 PM
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Don't think twice an go bro.
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July 29, 2017, 05:49:19 PM
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Work first! Then decide. If i could do it all over again I'd wait 1 - 2 years before making that decision after high school. It's a big one! Good luck friend Smiley
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July 29, 2017, 06:54:00 PM
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Go to college dude, is the best way to find a good job with a good payment.
It's not like going to college automatically gives you a good job, it's a tool plus the help of your own skills can give better chances in life. Studying does not make nothing secure and doesnt's makes you a better person.
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July 29, 2017, 11:18:15 PM
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Go to college if someone pays for it, you know what you are doing and it absolutely requires a degree.

Skip / hold off if you don't know what you want to be beyond all shadow of a doubt, if you have to get loans, and especially if you could acquire work experience instead of debt.

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July 30, 2017, 02:27:12 AM
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If you can think you can go along without going to collage than don't go to collage at all.

Collage is a shady place which teaches you how to be depressed.
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July 30, 2017, 02:36:03 AM
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Yes,you should go to college to enjoy your college life and for focus on your higher studies.Because college life provides you exposure to learn different things.
Even I also started college from this year.
Best of luck!
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July 30, 2017, 02:59:33 AM
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I'm not sure if this has been suggested yet and the thread is too long to check.

But have you considered studying abroad? In Germany the living cost is lower than in the US, and the tuition fees are less than $200 per semester. The education is generally better than what you would get at a US college as well. When I talked to friends who study MINT subjects at US Colleges I was quite shocked to find out how much time they waste on very basic garbage (several semesters) that we take out in around a week or less.

Depending on your field of study I would either go abroad for a degree or forfeit a US-based degree entirely. A lot of tech jobs can be reached by doing Nano-degrees on sites such as Udacity. Those are far cheaper and far better preparations for jobs in the tech industry.


The ideal route would be a degree abroad, supplemented with one or more Nanodegrees. US colleges are definitely overpriced and offer very little value in terms of teaching. Unless money is literally a no-brainer for you, avoid the US at all cost regardless of field of study.
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July 30, 2017, 04:47:53 AM
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But have you considered studying abroad? In Germany the living cost is lower than in the US, and the tuition fees are less than $200 per semester. The education is generally better than what you would get at a US college as well. When I talked to friends who study MINT subjects at US Colleges I was quite shocked to find out how much time they waste on very basic garbage (several semesters) that we take out in around a week or less.

The German education system is one of the best in the world. And the best part is that it is heavily subsidized. Some of my friends did their higher education from Germany. And they are all in praise for the system there. It is very affordable and the red tape is almost nonexistent. Also, the German universities are not as much money minded as some of their American counterparts.

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July 30, 2017, 04:51:32 AM
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But have you considered studying abroad? In Germany the living cost is lower than in the US, and the tuition fees are less than $200 per semester. The education is generally better than what you would get at a US college as well. When I talked to friends who study MINT subjects at US Colleges I was quite shocked to find out how much time they waste on very basic garbage (several semesters) that we take out in around a week or less.

The German education system is one of the best in the world. And the best part is that it is heavily subsidized. Some of my friends did their higher education from Germany. And they are all in praise for the system there. It is very affordable and the red tape is almost nonexistent. Also, the German universities are not as much money minded as some of their American counterparts.
German universities are great indeed, in comparison to what is available. However, formal education in general is quite dreadful and causes a lot of problems in the mentality of people.
Based on the available options though, German HE stands out among the top from quality and affordability perspectives.
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July 30, 2017, 04:58:06 AM
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I'm not sure if this has been suggested yet and the thread is too long to check.

But have you considered studying abroad? In Germany the living cost is lower than in the US, and the tuition fees are less than $200 per semester. The education is generally better than what you would get at a US college as well. When I talked to friends who study MINT subjects at US Colleges I was quite shocked to find out how much time they waste on very basic garbage (several semesters) that we take out in around a week or less.

Depending on your field of study I would either go abroad for a degree or forfeit a US-based degree entirely. A lot of tech jobs can be reached by doing Nano-degrees on sites such as Udacity. Those are far cheaper and far better preparations for jobs in the tech industry.


The ideal route would be a degree abroad, supplemented with one or more Nanodegrees. US colleges are definitely overpriced and offer very little value in terms of teaching. Unless money is literally a no-brainer for you, avoid the US at all cost regardless of field of study.

There is no tuition fee anymore (there was for around 3(?) years but people got pretty mad and it was abolished). What you pay are social fees that amount to around 200-250€ per semester depending on university  (free use of public transport, eating for a reduced price in the mensa etc pp).

The US basic education is the problem.
For a proper comparison with the german education system you have to look at ivy schools (similar to german gymnasium).
The education base of german, austrian, swiss "gymnasiast" are just superior to that of us americans (non ivy school) that is why german universities teach differently.

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July 30, 2017, 05:06:44 AM
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I'm not sure if this has been suggested yet and the thread is too long to check.

But have you considered studying abroad? In Germany the living cost is lower than in the US, and the tuition fees are less than $200 per semester. The education is generally better than what you would get at a US college as well. When I talked to friends who study MINT subjects at US Colleges I was quite shocked to find out how much time they waste on very basic garbage (several semesters) that we take out in around a week or less.

Depending on your field of study I would either go abroad for a degree or forfeit a US-based degree entirely. A lot of tech jobs can be reached by doing Nano-degrees on sites such as Udacity. Those are far cheaper and far better preparations for jobs in the tech industry.


The ideal route would be a degree abroad, supplemented with one or more Nanodegrees. US colleges are definitely overpriced and offer very little value in terms of teaching. Unless money is literally a no-brainer for you, avoid the US at all cost regardless of field of study.

There is no tuition fee anymore (there was for around 3(?) years but people got pretty mad and it was abolished). What you pay are social fees that amount to around 200-250€ per semester depending on university  (free use of public transport, eating for a reduced price in the mensa etc pp).

The US basic education is the problem.
For a proper comparison with the german education system you have to look at ivy schools (similar to german gymnasium).
The education base of german, austrian, swiss "gymnasiast" are just superior to that of us americans (non ivy school) that is why german universities teach differently.
I only pay 150~160 EUR per Semester. At what places are the fees as "high" as 250?

And Ivy Schools are way too expensive to really hold a candle to German universities. There are really only two or three cases in which an Ivy League tuition is objectively better than one at a German university. Namely getting a full scholarship, simply not caring about money, or not wanting to study abroad no matter what.
I've had access to the study materials in Cambridge, and we've done the exact same things at my university. The only bonuses are the prestige and perhaps networking, which in most cases won't offset the high tuition fees (in my opinion).
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July 30, 2017, 05:12:59 AM
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I'm not sure if this has been suggested yet and the thread is too long to check.

But have you considered studying abroad? In Germany the living cost is lower than in the US, and the tuition fees are less than $200 per semester. The education is generally better than what you would get at a US college as well. When I talked to friends who study MINT subjects at US Colleges I was quite shocked to find out how much time they waste on very basic garbage (several semesters) that we take out in around a week or less.

Depending on your field of study I would either go abroad for a degree or forfeit a US-based degree entirely. A lot of tech jobs can be reached by doing Nano-degrees on sites such as Udacity. Those are far cheaper and far better preparations for jobs in the tech industry.


The ideal route would be a degree abroad, supplemented with one or more Nanodegrees. US colleges are definitely overpriced and offer very little value in terms of teaching. Unless money is literally a no-brainer for you, avoid the US at all cost regardless of field of study.

There is no tuition fee anymore (there was for around 3(?) years but people got pretty mad and it was abolished). What you pay are social fees that amount to around 200-250€ per semester depending on university  (free use of public transport, eating for a reduced price in the mensa etc pp).

The US basic education is the problem.
For a proper comparison with the german education system you have to look at ivy schools (similar to german gymnasium).
The education base of german, austrian, swiss "gymnasiast" are just superior to that of us americans (non ivy school) that is why german universities teach differently.
I only pay 150~160 EUR per Semester. At what places are the fees as "high" as 250?

And Ivy Schools are way too expensive to really hold a candle to German universities. There are really only two or three cases in which an Ivy League tuition is objectively better than one at a German university. Namely getting a full scholarship, simply not caring about money, or not wanting to study abroad no matter what.
I've had access to the study materials in Cambridge, and we've done the exact same things at my university. The only bonuses are the prestige and perhaps networking, which in most cases won't offset the high tuition fees (in my opinion).

In west germany the social fees are usually around 250 €. You are probaly studying in east germany or maybe you get a discount as a foreign student?

I just wanted to say that quality-wise ivy league schools are atleast on par with german universities.
You are definitely right about the absurd expenses for these colleges.

But well education was always near complete free and has a very high standard in germany so we are kinda very spoiled in that regard.

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July 30, 2017, 05:16:35 AM
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I'm not sure if this has been suggested yet and the thread is too long to check.

But have you considered studying abroad? In Germany the living cost is lower than in the US, and the tuition fees are less than $200 per semester. The education is generally better than what you would get at a US college as well. When I talked to friends who study MINT subjects at US Colleges I was quite shocked to find out how much time they waste on very basic garbage (several semesters) that we take out in around a week or less.

Depending on your field of study I would either go abroad for a degree or forfeit a US-based degree entirely. A lot of tech jobs can be reached by doing Nano-degrees on sites such as Udacity. Those are far cheaper and far better preparations for jobs in the tech industry.


The ideal route would be a degree abroad, supplemented with one or more Nanodegrees. US colleges are definitely overpriced and offer very little value in terms of teaching. Unless money is literally a no-brainer for you, avoid the US at all cost regardless of field of study.

There is no tuition fee anymore (there was for around 3(?) years but people got pretty mad and it was abolished). What you pay are social fees that amount to around 200-250€ per semester depending on university  (free use of public transport, eating for a reduced price in the mensa etc pp).

The US basic education is the problem.
For a proper comparison with the german education system you have to look at ivy schools (similar to german gymnasium).
The education base of german, austrian, swiss "gymnasiast" are just superior to that of us americans (non ivy school) that is why german universities teach differently.
I only pay 150~160 EUR per Semester. At what places are the fees as "high" as 250?

And Ivy Schools are way too expensive to really hold a candle to German universities. There are really only two or three cases in which an Ivy League tuition is objectively better than one at a German university. Namely getting a full scholarship, simply not caring about money, or not wanting to study abroad no matter what.
I've had access to the study materials in Cambridge, and we've done the exact same things at my university. The only bonuses are the prestige and perhaps networking, which in most cases won't offset the high tuition fees (in my opinion).

In west germany the social fees are usually around 250 €. You are probaly studying in east germany or maybe you get a discount as a foreign student?

I just wanted to say that quality-wise ivy league schools are atleast on par with german universities.
You are definitely right about the absurd expenses for these colleges.
I'm in southwest Germany and pay the regular rate as a German citizen. I haven't seen such fees at any of the places I checked out a few years ago, so I'm quite surprised. 250 EUR per semester is still a steal though. Not really surprised that my university is flooded with Asians and Indians.

And yes, Ivy League education itself is definitely among the top as well. It's just hard to justify the price tags given the options.
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July 30, 2017, 05:28:48 AM
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I'm not sure if this has been suggested yet and the thread is too long to check.

But have you considered studying abroad? In Germany the living cost is lower than in the US, and the tuition fees are less than $200 per semester. The education is generally better than what you would get at a US college as well. When I talked to friends who study MINT subjects at US Colleges I was quite shocked to find out how much time they waste on very basic garbage (several semesters) that we take out in around a week or less.

Depending on your field of study I would either go abroad for a degree or forfeit a US-based degree entirely. A lot of tech jobs can be reached by doing Nano-degrees on sites such as Udacity. Those are far cheaper and far better preparations for jobs in the tech industry.


The ideal route would be a degree abroad, supplemented with one or more Nanodegrees. US colleges are definitely overpriced and offer very little value in terms of teaching. Unless money is literally a no-brainer for you, avoid the US at all cost regardless of field of study.

There is no tuition fee anymore (there was for around 3(?) years but people got pretty mad and it was abolished). What you pay are social fees that amount to around 200-250€ per semester depending on university  (free use of public transport, eating for a reduced price in the mensa etc pp).

The US basic education is the problem.
For a proper comparison with the german education system you have to look at ivy schools (similar to german gymnasium).
The education base of german, austrian, swiss "gymnasiast" are just superior to that of us americans (non ivy school) that is why german universities teach differently.
I only pay 150~160 EUR per Semester. At what places are the fees as "high" as 250?

And Ivy Schools are way too expensive to really hold a candle to German universities. There are really only two or three cases in which an Ivy League tuition is objectively better than one at a German university. Namely getting a full scholarship, simply not caring about money, or not wanting to study abroad no matter what.
I've had access to the study materials in Cambridge, and we've done the exact same things at my university. The only bonuses are the prestige and perhaps networking, which in most cases won't offset the high tuition fees (in my opinion).

In west germany the social fees are usually around 250 €. You are probaly studying in east germany or maybe you get a discount as a foreign student?

I just wanted to say that quality-wise ivy league schools are atleast on par with german universities.
You are definitely right about the absurd expenses for these colleges.
I'm in southwest Germany and pay the regular rate as a German citizen. I haven't seen such fees at any of the places I checked out a few years ago, so I'm quite surprised. 250 EUR per semester is still a steal though. Not really surprised that my university is flooded with Asians and Indians.

And yes, Ivy League education itself is definitely among the top as well. It's just hard to justify the price tags given the options.

You are a lucky one with 160 € or the prices got cheaper over the time.
For example in Aachen the fee is ~260€ but overall compared to abroad it is really nothing.

Good education + very low fees + rather low living expenses makes germany a very awesome location to get a higher education especially right now while germany needs new educated workers.

Btw tuition fee of ivy league school per semester: 10.000-20.000 $

German average tuition fee per semester: 200 €

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July 30, 2017, 05:34:11 AM
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I'm not sure if this has been suggested yet and the thread is too long to check.

But have you considered studying abroad? In Germany the living cost is lower than in the US, and the tuition fees are less than $200 per semester. The education is generally better than what you would get at a US college as well. When I talked to friends who study MINT subjects at US Colleges I was quite shocked to find out how much time they waste on very basic garbage (several semesters) that we take out in around a week or less.

Depending on your field of study I would either go abroad for a degree or forfeit a US-based degree entirely. A lot of tech jobs can be reached by doing Nano-degrees on sites such as Udacity. Those are far cheaper and far better preparations for jobs in the tech industry.


The ideal route would be a degree abroad, supplemented with one or more Nanodegrees. US colleges are definitely overpriced and offer very little value in terms of teaching. Unless money is literally a no-brainer for you, avoid the US at all cost regardless of field of study.

There is no tuition fee anymore (there was for around 3(?) years but people got pretty mad and it was abolished). What you pay are social fees that amount to around 200-250€ per semester depending on university  (free use of public transport, eating for a reduced price in the mensa etc pp).

The US basic education is the problem.
For a proper comparison with the german education system you have to look at ivy schools (similar to german gymnasium).
The education base of german, austrian, swiss "gymnasiast" are just superior to that of us americans (non ivy school) that is why german universities teach differently.
I only pay 150~160 EUR per Semester. At what places are the fees as "high" as 250?

And Ivy Schools are way too expensive to really hold a candle to German universities. There are really only two or three cases in which an Ivy League tuition is objectively better than one at a German university. Namely getting a full scholarship, simply not caring about money, or not wanting to study abroad no matter what.
I've had access to the study materials in Cambridge, and we've done the exact same things at my university. The only bonuses are the prestige and perhaps networking, which in most cases won't offset the high tuition fees (in my opinion).

In west germany the social fees are usually around 250 €. You are probaly studying in east germany or maybe you get a discount as a foreign student?

I just wanted to say that quality-wise ivy league schools are atleast on par with german universities.
You are definitely right about the absurd expenses for these colleges.
I'm in southwest Germany and pay the regular rate as a German citizen. I haven't seen such fees at any of the places I checked out a few years ago, so I'm quite surprised. 250 EUR per semester is still a steal though. Not really surprised that my university is flooded with Asians and Indians.

And yes, Ivy League education itself is definitely among the top as well. It's just hard to justify the price tags given the options.

You are a lucky one with 160 € or the prices got cheaper over the time.
For example in Aachen the fee is ~260€ but overall compared to abroad it is really nothing.

Good education + very low fees + rather low living expenses makes germany a very awesome location to get a higher education especially right now while germanys needs new educated workers.

Btw tuition fee of ivy league school per semester: 10.000-20.000 $

German average tuition fee per semester: 200 €
I've paid roughly the same rate (give or take 10 EUR) for the past 5-6 years at two different universities. The rates actually got slightly higher over time.

And yeah, I'm aware of the ivy league fees, they're insane even by international standards.
I've checked out a lot of schools, including in the US, Japan, UK, and decided that it simply wasn't worth it. You can go to all of those schools for an exchange semester or two with a full scholarship and get the best of both worlds that way. Takes some effort to reach the required grades, but still better than going hundreds of thousands into debt for a degree.
There are very few degrees that will pay that debt off in a reasonable amount of time and even those can be gotten much cheaper elsewhere.
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You should definitely go to college. There's so still much more to learn after elementary and high school. At this state you will have more opportunity to know yourself better and also you'll gain more experiences that will be helpful to you. Going to college gives you advantages in many aspects of life

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You should definitely go to college. There's so still much more to learn after elementary and high school. At this state you will have more opportunity to know yourself better and also you'll gain more experiences that will be helpful to you. Going to college gives you advantages in many aspects of life
In order to decide to leave in an institution for higher education, you need to set goals and achieve them. It seems to me that a person needs to have a starting primary education, and everything else a person should study for a personal perspective.

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Yes. Well you never know what is going to happen. It is an amazing adventure and experience for life even if you do not manage to finish the college. You meet new people and you try new stuff.
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July 30, 2017, 12:24:21 PM
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Hi everyone,

What advice would you give a HS senior in US about to decide on and/or enter college ?

Going to college is never a wrong choice. Just make sure that you're going to pick the right course. Pick something that is within your interest and hobbies.

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I would say yes. Of course financial aspects is important. But you just need to ask yourself, what you want to be for your future career? That make a big decision whether to go to college or not. If you want to be a doctor or engineer, there is no choice, you need to have some kind of qualification.
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