Fifth alt coin thread last four got too big.

[ps_jb]

Right now it is about $4 to $5 a card on NH Equihash.

Not bad - thank you!

[Storx]

... ive been sticking to the 1080ti's... the prices have been the least affected, so i keep buying them when on sale on ebay mostly, occasionally i find steals on wikibuy, but mostly i get off ebay.. like i bought 4 more last week when they had the 12% back to school thing on ebay bucks offer

How much 1 1080Ti card can earn per day (before electricity)? I assume ZEC is still the best to mine with it, isn't it?

My current 30 day running average is $4.61/per 1080ti, but this profit is a little off, because there was a few times during the month i had power outages for multiple hours and a few rigs lock up on me. I pull the wallet data from the pool server every 5 minutes for this info with a script...

[philipma1957]

All good Phil? I haven't been active on the forum for a year++.

Would love to hear your take on the mining scene for this year.
Whats the future for GPU mining? I'm currently mining ETH with 4 rigs, would you continue mining ETH even tho the diff is climbing like crazy? Or switch to something else? Sell the rigs?

Would also love to pick ur brain regarding the recent x11 ASICs thats seems to be flooding the market right now!

Cheers <3

If you have 4 rigs filled with  6 cards each you have 24 cards.

If they are all rx 470,480,570,580  they sell at a premium.

I would sell every card and convert to

 ⅓ in cash ⅓ in btc ⅓ in zec


take off from mining for July and August then reassess what to do in mid sept.

I sold  almost every card.

I have 9 1080ti's  and nothing else.

I purchased  1400 forever  stamps on ebay today  with my ebucks.

I can make money  on them just as certain as making on  the 1080 ti's

With only 9 1080ti's mining  it is a bullet proof setup  even if it is only  4.50 x 9 /2 = 20.25 a day  I still get btc from it and from the  56 th  which is 47 a day  or 47/2 =

23.50 + 20.25 = $43.75

[cryptotore]

All good Phil? I haven't been active on the forum for a year++.

Would love to hear your take on the mining scene for this year.
Whats the future for GPU mining? I'm currently mining ETH with 4 rigs, would you continue mining ETH even tho the diff is climbing like crazy? Or switch to something else? Sell the rigs?

Would also love to pick ur brain regarding the recent x11 ASICs thats seems to be flooding the market right now!

Cheers <3

If you have 4 rigs filled with  6 cards each you have 24 cards.

If they are all rx 470,480,570,580  they sell at a premium.

I would sell every card and convert to

 ⅓ in cash ⅓ in btc ⅓ in zec


take off from mining for July and August then reassess what to do in mid sept.

I sold  almost every card.

I have 9 1080ti's  and nothing else.

I purchased  1400 forever  stamps on ebay today  with my ebucks.

I can make money  on them just as certain as making on  the 1080 ti's

With only 9 1080ti's mining  it is a bullet proof setup  even if it is only  4.50 x 9 /2 = 20.25 a day  I still get btc from it and from the  56 th  which is 47 a day  or 47/2 =

23.50 + 20.25 = $43.75

Thanks for reply mate!

I just realized I forgot a crucial detail! Where I'm from we got this awesome (and kinda insane) law that say that all electronics above a certain price point has a guarantee of 5 years. This basically means that whenever a card breaks, I just return it to the shop and get a full refund.

So I guess that kinda takes selling off the table as I'm kinda guaranteed ROI! I've actually never thought of it this way.. I should buy more rigs..


I have 18x RX580 and 2x R9390, dual mining ETH and DCR, ETH at ethermine and DCR at nicehash. I only got 2 390's left, waiting for them to die so I can return them as well. What coin would you mine with the GPU rigs?

Was considering buying Vega series cards next to fill up the empty slots, but this is probably a terrible idea, as seen from the hashrate benchmarks so far. The 1080 Ti's is probably a better buy?

For ASICs I'm running 1xS9, 1xL3+, 1x Baikal mini, 1x Baikal Quad and I got a D3 coming up in late september.
Currently pointing them at nicehash, but I'm wondering if I should rather mine BTC and Dash directly? Or do you think nicehash's auto profit switching is better?

What do you think about projects like golem and iExec? I was hoping that the GPU's might be usable for rent there later on, if I've understood it correctly.

Long shot:
Do you have any idea about what kind of noise level the Corsair HX1200 makes compared to the AX1200i? The HX is 120$ cheaper.

I've got two rigs with Sapphire RX580 "Limited Edition" cards, and one of them has a AX1200i, it makes so little noise that the CPU fan is the loudest part.
The other one got a XFX 1200W, and its really loud, so I want to change that PSU. These rigs are in the living room so I need to make the last one "wife-friendly".


Thanks for your time again

[QuintLeo]

Would also love to pick ur brain regarding the recent x11 ASICs thats seems to be flooding the market right now!

 Not really a "right now" flood.

 There was a first generation of miners from appx. ballpark April-June last year, iBelink Pinidea then Baikal, each was a "lower" process node and more efficient as they came out (I might have the iBelink and Pinidea backwards in that order).

 Then things stagnated, as the Baikal was a ton better efficiency than the others it ended up being the only one selling as the others didn't bother making more than their initial batch.

 Then iBelink a couple weeks ago or so announced a second-generation model with similar-to-slightly better efficiency than the Baikal, only to get one-upped by the Bitmain announcement of the D3, which appears to have triggered Innosilicon announcement of their A5.

 If Innosilicon hits their ANNOUNCED specs on the A5 (which seems fairly likely, it apparently was well into development by the time Bitmain announced the D3, UNLIKE the A4 being announced WAY before the chips actually hit production) then it will be the "top dog" for X11 for a while - but it's priced somewhat high even factoring in it's performance IMO leaving plenty of room for Bitmain to sell D3 units and leaving iBelink praying they sold all of THEIR batch of new units in their existing pre-orders....


 Whichever one actually SHIPS first will have a window of massive profitability, but will see that profitability drop quite quickly as the total network hashrate for X11 coins (mostly DASH) gets hammered by the new units.

 All 3 units have a good chance of being profitable though, as long as DASH price doesn't collapse.



 VEGA is a question mark at this point, as the ONLY hashrates I've seen for them are on ETH and the drivers are a long ways from optimised so far.

[rs1x]

All good Phil? I haven't been active on the forum for a year++.

Would love to hear your take on the mining scene for this year.
Whats the future for GPU mining? I'm currently mining ETH with 4 rigs, would you continue mining ETH even tho the diff is climbing like crazy? Or switch to something else? Sell the rigs?

Would also love to pick ur brain regarding the recent x11 ASICs thats seems to be flooding the market right now!

Cheers <3

If you have 4 rigs filled with  6 cards each you have 24 cards.

If they are all rx 470,480,570,580  they sell at a premium.

I would sell every card and convert to

 ⅓ in cash ⅓ in btc ⅓ in zec


take off from mining for July and August then reassess what to do in mid sept.

I sold  almost every card.

I have 9 1080ti's  and nothing else.

I purchased  1400 forever  stamps on ebay today  with my ebucks.

I can make money  on them just as certain as making on  the 1080 ti's

With only 9 1080ti's mining  it is a bullet proof setup  even if it is only  4.50 x 9 /2 = 20.25 a day  I still get btc from it and from the  56 th  which is 47 a day  or 47/2 =

23.50 + 20.25 = $43.75

The forever stamps line interests me. Do you buy them to flip or what ? I'm intrigued !

[philipma1957]

All good Phil? I haven't been active on the forum for a year++.

Would love to hear your take on the mining scene for this year.
Whats the future for GPU mining? I'm currently mining ETH with 4 rigs, would you continue mining ETH even tho the diff is climbing like crazy? Or switch to something else? Sell the rigs?

Would also love to pick ur brain regarding the recent x11 ASICs thats seems to be flooding the market right now!

Cheers <3

If you have 4 rigs filled with  6 cards each you have 24 cards.

If they are all rx 470,480,570,580  they sell at a premium.

I would sell every card and convert to

 ⅓ in cash ⅓ in btc ⅓ in zec


take off from mining for July and August then reassess what to do in mid sept.

I sold  almost every card.

I have 9 1080ti's  and nothing else.

I purchased  1400 forever  stamps on ebay today  with my ebucks.

I can make money  on them just as certain as making on  the 1080 ti's

With only 9 1080ti's mining  it is a bullet proof setup  even if it is only  4.50 x 9 /2 = 20.25 a day  I still get btc from it and from the  56 th  which is 47 a day  or 47/2 =

23.50 + 20.25 = $43.75

The forever stamps line interests me. Do you buy them to flip or what ? I'm intrigued !

shoot me a pm I will get back and explain

[sNaKeyz0r91]

Hi people,

I was mining with RX480 and 570 and I am pretty new at nvidia mining scene. So here is the question:
I have 6 x GTX 1060. Three of them are ASUS Dual which are pretty good at equihash and eth and good temperatures. The other three are Gigabyte Windforce which have pretty high temperatures and suck at ethereum mining. No problem at equihash or other.

Right now I'm mining with EWBF at Nicehash pool and making about 9-10 bucks / day.

What is your advice? Move to zpool and mine with EWBF? Or try the multi-algo swith from JaredKaragen which works on ccminer?

Regards

[SVK]

As Cryptptore said : I was waiting on VEGA to come out but I have little faith at this stage.

How many 1080Ti's can I run on a single EVGA 1200 Gold PSU ?
Decided to go for EVGA black edition as they came down on price £30 in 2 days so why not.


Thank you

[citronick]

As Cryptptore said : I was waiting on VEGA to come out but I have little faith at this stage.

How many 1080Ti's can I run on a single EVGA 1200 Gold PSU ?
Decided to go for EVGA black edition as they came down on price £30 in 2 days so why not.


Thank you

I think, ideally 3 x GPUs, maximum 4 x GPUs. EVGAs can take a beating most of the time but suggest you give 20% buffer to the PSU since its a Gold 80 rating.

I run 4 x GA-Aorus 1080tis on EVGA-G2-1600w.
The rig draws only 750w during "low intensity" EWBF ZEC mining.
If I crank up the powelimit, it will hit just over 1000watts @ 240-250watts each.

I have another rig using Zotac AMP Extreme x 3 on EVGA-G2-1300w.
I let the Zotac loose most of the time because its hashes very well in beast mode (around 850w)
It's however hard to OC this rig further compared to the Aorus.

[SVK]

As Cryptptore said : I was waiting on VEGA to come out but I have little faith at this stage.

How many 1080Ti's can I run on a single EVGA 1200 Gold PSU ?
Decided to go for EVGA black edition as they came down on price £30 in 2 days so why not.


Thank you

I think, ideally 3 x GPUs, maximum 4 x GPUs. EVGAs can take a beating most of the time but suggest you give 20% buffer to the PSU since its a Gold 80 rating.

I run 4 x GA-Aorus 1080tis on EVGA-G2-1600w.
The rig draws only 750w during "low intensity" EWBF ZEC mining.
If I crank up the powelimit, it will hit just over 1000watts @ 240-250watts each.

I have another rig using Zotac AMP Extreme x 3 on EVGA-G2-1300w.
I let the Zotac loose most of the time because its hashes very well in beast mode (around 850w)
It's however hard to OC this rig further compared to the Aorus.

Many thanks for valuable info Citronick.

I'm in UK and electricity isn't cheap here ($0.17 KW/h) so I'm trying to run things low and strike fine balance between Watts/hashrate.

I have one 1070 which would potentially go with 3x1080Ti .?
1070 is taking 120 +/- 7W (using kill a watt)

So 3x1080Ti + 1x 1070 with power limit 70% on 1200W Gold.?
Is it doable ?

Thank you

[citronick]

As Cryptptore said : I was waiting on VEGA to come out but I have little faith at this stage.

How many 1080Ti's can I run on a single EVGA 1200 Gold PSU ?
Decided to go for EVGA black edition as they came down on price £30 in 2 days so why not.


Thank you

I think, ideally 3 x GPUs, maximum 4 x GPUs. EVGAs can take a beating most of the time but suggest you give 20% buffer to the PSU since its a Gold 80 rating.

I run 4 x GA-Aorus 1080tis on EVGA-G2-1600w.
The rig draws only 750w during "low intensity" EWBF ZEC mining.
If I crank up the powelimit, it will hit just over 1000watts @ 240-250watts each.

I have another rig using Zotac AMP Extreme x 3 on EVGA-G2-1300w.
I let the Zotac loose most of the time because its hashes very well in beast mode (around 850w)
It's however hard to OC this rig further compared to the Aorus.

Many thanks for valuable info Citronick.

I'm in UK and electricity isn't cheap here ($0.17 KW/h) so I'm trying to run things low and strike fine balance between Watts/hashrate.

I have one 1070 which would potentially go with 3x1080Ti .?
1070 is taking 120 +/- 7W (using kill a watt)

So 3x1080Ti + 1x 1070 with power limit 70% on 1200W Gold.?
Is it doable ?

Thank you

I think that's fine - its an EVGA after all 

Ideally set PL to 70-75, and get the best core/mem combination depending on what coin you are mining.

ETH likes fast memory. ZEC likes more cores count and speed then memory.

Once you get reasonably good hashrate, then slowly attempt to lower down the PL towards 60.

[QuintLeo]

As Cryptptore said : I was waiting on VEGA to come out but I have little faith at this stage.

How many 1080Ti's can I run on a single EVGA 1200 Gold PSU ?
Decided to go for EVGA black edition as they came down on price £30 in 2 days so why not.


Thank you

 Do you mean the EVGA G2 1300? I'm not aware of an EVGA gold-rated model at the 1200 watt level.

 If so, 3 1080 ti will work VERY comfortably and 4 should be viable if you keep the TDP down some on all 4 cards.

 3 x 1080 ti and a 1070 should work fine if it's not a high-TDP 1070 model like that monster MSI with 2 power connectors.


 I've noted that a lot of mining will "spike" the TDP occasionally no matter WHAT you set it at, though.

[SVK]

As Cryptptore said : I was waiting on VEGA to come out but I have little faith at this stage.

How many 1080Ti's can I run on a single EVGA 1200 Gold PSU ?
Decided to go for EVGA black edition as they came down on price £30 in 2 days so why not.


Thank you

 Do you mean the EVGA G2 1300? I'm not aware of an EVGA gold-rated model at the 1200 watt level.

 If so, 3 1080 ti will work VERY comfortably and 4 should be viable if you keep the TDP down some on all 4 cards.

 3 x 1080 ti and a 1070 should work fine if it's not a high-TDP 1070 model like that monster MSI with 2 power connectors.


 I've noted that a lot of mining will "spike" the TDP occasionally no matter WHAT you set it at, though.

Nope EVGA G2 1200W
That one is from my Litecoin mining days 2012.

LOL I have MSI 1070 and it takes 2 power connectors 8+6.
Would that be a problem ?

[slackert]

I've got 3 1080ti and 1 1070 mini on a EVGA 850 G3. TDP on the 1080ti's is 70% and I pull 750 watts at the wall. Been running consistently for over a month.

[philipma1957]

I've got 3 1080ti and 1 1070 mini on a EVGA 850 G3. TDP on the 1080ti's is 70% and I pull 750 watts at the wall. Been running consistently for over a month.

You are near the max.

You should watch it.

You may need to drop to 60 or 65%.

Be careful

[Storx]

I've got 3 1080ti and 1 1070 mini on a EVGA 850 G3. TDP on the 1080ti's is 70% and I pull 750 watts at the wall. Been running consistently for over a month.

Be careful, one of my neighbors i got him into mining to offset the cost of a new gaming pc and he added a 2nd GPU to his brand new computer we built together, little did i know he was going to add a 1080ti to copy me with his 1070 on a computer with only a Corsair 550w gold unit. We built it just one gpu, because that was all he wanted, but the mining earnings got him hooked and instead of asking me he decided to do it himself and just buy another gpu... not knowing the wattage draw of it. He was waken up in the middle of night because his fire alarm with off in his house, because the psu started dieing and started smoking, luckily nothing actually caught on fire, but if he was not home he could have burnt it down running it that close to the limits...

[citronick]

I've got 3 1080ti and 1 1070 mini on a EVGA 850 G3. TDP on the 1080ti's is 70% and I pull 750 watts at the wall. Been running consistently for over a month.

850w G3 is cutting it close...

Gold series usually 80% efficiency, so if you have 850w then only up to 850w x 80% = 680w for best efficiency (assume 220-240v circuits)

Most of my heavy rigs (12 ands 13 x GPU rigs), use Delta 2400watts Platinum 94% and 2 x 1500w Platinum 92% server PSUs.

If I dont cross that threshold, they don't get hot at all, less fan noise, cards and rigs stable and most of all - I can sleep in peace.

Best to standardize on good quality power cords too (I have replaced all 10A power cords in the farm) - I use 13A rated cords for EVGA-1300w and 1500/1200/1000/750w server PSUs and the fat 16A rated power cords for Delta-2400w and EVGA-G2-1600w.

Last but not least, invest in a few "kill-a-watt" plugs and double check total power draw and also total amps, to ensure your rails have enough amps for your rigs. I use 20amps per circuit to get 4 x 6xGPU rigs sharing the same rail and 2 x 12/13xGPU rigs sharing the same 20A rail.

[slackert]

None of the cords/cables are even warm. All gpus are running at mid to low 60°s.

 I hooked up a second rig of 3 1080ti's and ran both rigs into a powerstrip. I'm now pulling 1390 watts at the wall for 4.8 kh/s of ZEC.

 The wall plugs are rated to 1800 watts on a 15A breaker so I'm curious where the fire danger lies?

 I'm thinking about a switch over to a 30A pdu through a dryer plug next week.

Any experienced miner rig/power setup advice is appreciated.

[fr4nkthetank]

Fire damage...well to start off 1390 watts is your MAX on a 15A line.  80% of load, means 12A max capacity maximum.  that is electric code and standard practice for continuous operation.  For the PSU, 750w at the wall is fine on a 850w, considering a EVGA gold PSU is quality, and can hold that load for years.  I dont have any G3 units though, maybe check JohnyGuru to see if they are as good/comparable to the G2 line.  I have some 1000GQ EVGA that run 900w at the wall and they are perfectly fine.  5-7 year warranty so no worries.  The only thing is that you are less efficient - So on 240v it may be max efficiency 92% - 60% load, but at 90% load you are at 87% efficiency, etc.  Some cheaper PSU cannot do this and will overheat/blow capacitors, fire hazard.  In any case, make sure your equipment, if fire there is, is not close to things that can catch on fire if possible.  Like OP, who's rigs are surrounded by wood, its better to be on the safe side   With RX fire hazard isnt a big problem, but before, when gpu's drew 350-400 watts or something with shoddy risers, a lot of people were dumb and "burned" their rigs down.