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December 03, 2015, 08:15:34 AM |
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We just banned over 800 faucet bots. This will hopefully allow us to up to faucet for legitimate users. Notice the drop? Wow nice job. The drop is very clear to notice.
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phinzphan
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December 03, 2015, 08:33:13 AM Last edit: December 03, 2015, 09:11:04 AM by phinzphan |
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We just banned over 800 faucet bots. This will hopefully allow us to up to faucet for legitimate users. Notice the drop? I tried to do this without sticking out like a sore thumb but now I don't have much of a choice. What do you consider botting? What I did was set a timer using http://www.online-stopwatch.com/full-screen-interval-timer/. As you can see, it's just that, a timer. It has no interaction with primedice itself. All it does is tell me when to capcha/roll. I set it for 2:40 because it usually takes about 20-30 seconds to do the capchas so I set it 20 seconds early. Even then, PD would sometimes tell me I had to wait a few more seconds before using the faucet. I started doing this when the faucet went from 1 to 3 minutes so I could get more efficiency out of it, and I wouldn't have to guess when 3 minutes were up. I know some people will say "Why don't you deposit like a real player?" I am not "supposed" to deposit since I am in the USA, so that option is rather moot. I certainly do appreciate your generosity via the faucet, it's what got me into bitcoin but at the same time, I would love to keep using the faucet Thank you
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December 03, 2015, 09:40:13 AM |
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We just banned over 800 faucet bots. This will hopefully allow us to up to faucet for legitimate users. Notice the drop? Nice, would have been good to inform at least the mods beforehand, though... Can you elaborate a little on the acceptable use policy, since thats what people will be asking a lot the next few days, i guess?
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December 03, 2015, 12:09:35 PM |
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There is no point in discussing it in that reddit page anymore since faucet bot has been banned by stunna and perhaps they will continue to do so in the future so its kinda pointless
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mexxer-2
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December 03, 2015, 12:13:45 PM |
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There is no point in discussing it in that reddit page anymore since faucet bot has been banned by stunna and perhaps they will continue to do so in the future so its kinda pointless Its from a PD mod. And more importantly I don't believe human captcha solving will be discouraged, and the script is just to show how much time you have until next faucet payout. It'd helpful to know how Stunna is deciding which are bots and which are people just anxious to claim that they time it correctly.
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December 03, 2015, 12:15:56 PM |
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There is no point in discussing it in that reddit page anymore since faucet bot has been banned by stunna and perhaps they will continue to do so in the future so its kinda pointless Its from a PD mod. And more importantly I don't believe human captcha solving will be discouraged, and the script is just to show how much time you have until next faucet payout. It'd helpful to know how Stunna is deciding which are bots and which are people just anxious to claim that they time it correctly. In that case Im wondering if I claim my faucet right away after my timer ended, will I be considered as a bot? If that is so then Using this script is pointless imo, Id rather not want stunna to suddenly bann my account thinking that Im a bot
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Stunna (OP)
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December 03, 2015, 02:15:15 PM |
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We consider faucet abuse using the faucet extensively with no input to the community or betting activity. We won't disclose how we determine botting or else that will allow botters to get around the bans.
The faucet is there for users to test the site & have some fun on the side - It isn't a charity.
We're pretty certain all bans made were legit however if you do have a complaint you can submit a support ticket & we can review your ban.
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mexxer-2
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December 03, 2015, 02:45:02 PM |
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We consider faucet abuse using the faucet extensively with no input to the community or betting activity. We won't disclose how we determine botting or else that will allow botters to get around the bans.
The faucet is there for users to test the site & have some fun on the side - It isn't a charity.
We're pretty certain all bans made were legit however if you do have a complaint you can submit a support ticket & we can review your ban.
I wonder why people go for faucets when all they give is not even some cents per payout, they should use theri programming skills to make something more productive. At any rate, whats up with this contest: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1261106.0;topicseen ?
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bitlancr
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December 03, 2015, 03:03:49 PM |
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Ah I like the no registration part, saves me time when I really just wanna roll the dice.
I will be trying this out tonight.
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December 03, 2015, 04:25:16 PM |
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We won't disclose how we determine botting or else that will allow botters to get around the bans.
Or you have both left hands, or just pull the wool over eyes. Bots for google captcha, what a nonsense.
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December 03, 2015, 05:14:52 PM |
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When i look closely to some complaints about this bans, i see that most of the people used faucet to the point that Primedice did not have any edge over them for theirs wagered.
When somebody has 10 btc wagered and 0.1+ btc in faucet claimed they have edge over pd.
It was defiantly unsustainable.
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December 03, 2015, 08:21:53 PM |
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Hey guys! What does it mean "Your faucet has been disable due to abuse" ? And all my accs muted by admin. I played faucet 4-5 hours a day every 3 minutes with few acoounts. What rule i broke? Where can i read about abusing?
People farming the faucet this way ruins things for everyone, this is why we can't offer higher rewards. If you are spending 4-5 hours a day on multiple accounts simultaneously claiming the faucet as soon as possible you are absolutely abusing what the faucet was put in for. The faucet is a nice way for active users to get a small amount of bitcoins to test the site out and try different strategies. The above is exactly what I'd define as unacceptable faucet usage.
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December 03, 2015, 08:53:12 PM |
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The way graph is consistent, with some large drops, i would say that's a classical martingale (with pre rolls to get a "head start"). Wouldn't be to certain of sustainability of such method on longterm. Am i right, or are you using some other method ?
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December 03, 2015, 09:10:02 PM |
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it'a kind of martingale, with very big win chance, big multiply, and very low starting bet. my chances of getting a losing streak is 1 to 500.000 bets, and I double my ballance every 50.000 bets or so so 9 out of 10 I would double, and 1 out of 10 I would hit a losing streak. The key is to always withdraw once I double,because, in the end, you will always hit a losing streak ( 1 chance out of 500.000 bets)
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December 04, 2015, 12:33:25 AM |
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Hey guys! What does it mean "Your faucet has been disable due to abuse" ? And all my accs muted by admin. I played faucet 4-5 hours a day every 3 minutes with few acoounts. What rule i broke? Where can i read about abusing?
People farming the faucet this way ruins things for everyone, this is why we can't offer higher rewards. If you are spending 4-5 hours a day on multiple accounts simultaneously claiming the faucet as soon as possible you are absolutely abusing what the faucet was put in for. The faucet is a nice way for active users to get a small amount of bitcoins to test the site out and try different strategies. The above is exactly what I'd define as unacceptable faucet usage. I guess people have a ton of free time if 4-5 hours a day on faucets is a thing. Could totally put that time towards more rewarding things like getting a job Has anyone gotten rich off faucet farming? Or profited well (>0.1)?
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Serlite
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December 04, 2015, 01:40:35 AM |
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There is no point in discussing it in that reddit page anymore since faucet bot has been banned by stunna and perhaps they will continue to do so in the future so its kinda pointless Its from a PD mod. And more importantly I don't believe human captcha solving will be discouraged, and the script is just to show how much time you have until next faucet payout. It'd helpful to know how Stunna is deciding which are bots and which are people just anxious to claim that they time it correctly. In that case Im wondering if I claim my faucet right away after my timer ended, will I be considered as a bot? If that is so then Using this script is pointless imo, Id rather not want stunna to suddenly bann my account thinking that Im a bot Egh, my script got pulled into this discussion...>.<; I originally created that script a year ago during a rocky period for PD, where claiming the faucet early would reset the faucet timer on the server. To help alleviate some of the woes chat users were voicing, I wrote the timer so people wouldn't have to worry about accidentally extending their faucet claim time. It definitely wasn't my intention for people to use it as anything more than an augment to their PD experience, and is part of the reason why I never made an "official" Bitcointalk thread for it - it was an indirect way to keep it as a perk for (even marginally) active PD community members. Lots of people have made client scripts to alter their experience on the site, and there's nothing wrong with that - Primedice can't always natively offer the degree of customization some users prefer. Just be careful that custom scripts don't lead you into abusing features of the site, or you might fall afoul of moderators, admins, or some automated cleanup script. (I reckon the script targeted users that were claiming faucet/betting frequently without any other betting/chatting activity, but that's just speculation.)
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December 04, 2015, 02:22:15 AM |
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I don't think chatting (or lack thereof) should be a condition for taking one's faucet away. I'm a quiet/reserved/introverted type of person, it has nothing to do with any kind of exploitation. I also tend to have multiple things going on at once, so I didn't leave me much time to chat, not that I had much to say anyway. Don't forget, you once reducedpeople's faucets for abusing chat. (and those who didn't really abuse it) So now you're taking away people's faucets for doing the complete opposite? as far as betting goes, my only response to that is: Your IP appears to be from the United States or another restricted jurisdiction. As a result, you will be limited to the free version of Primedice.
We are sorry for any inconvenience & hope you still have fun.
That's what I was basically doing. Having fun.
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December 04, 2015, 06:34:23 AM Last edit: December 04, 2015, 06:57:57 AM by Baofu |
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Hey guys! What does it mean "Your faucet has been disable due to abuse" ? And all my accs muted by admin. I played faucet 4-5 hours a day every 3 minutes with few acoounts. What rule i broke? Where can i read about abusing?
People farming the faucet this way ruins things for everyone, this is why we can't offer higher rewards. If you are spending 4-5 hours a day on multiple accounts simultaneously claiming the faucet as soon as possible you are absolutely abusing what the faucet was put in for. The faucet is a nice way for active users to get a small amount of bitcoins to test the site out and try different strategies. The above is exactly what I'd define as unacceptable faucet usage. Ok, i get your thought, but I think my ban is partly unfair in this case. I don't break any rules. And all i want is unban my main account "Baofu" for fun playing without abusing. Hey guys! What does it mean "Your faucet has been disable due to abuse" ? And all my accs muted by admin. I played faucet 4-5 hours a day every 3 minutes with few acoounts. What rule i broke? Where can i read about abusing?
People farming the faucet this way ruins things for everyone, this is why we can't offer higher rewards. If you are spending 4-5 hours a day on multiple accounts simultaneously claiming the faucet as soon as possible you are absolutely abusing what the faucet was put in for. The faucet is a nice way for active users to get a small amount of bitcoins to test the site out and try different strategies. The above is exactly what I'd define as unacceptable faucet usage. I guess people have a ton of free time if 4-5 hours a day on faucets is a thing. Could totally put that time towards more rewarding things like getting a job Has anyone gotten rich off faucet farming? Or profited well (>0.1)? We have a bad situation in our country(Ukraine) now, salary is small(100-200$) and economics almost ruined because of war with Russia. I have a job, but trying reach some money in foreign currency and find this way. +0.3 btc in month not bad for a life. But who cares.
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