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August 08, 2018, 09:28:33 PM
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Do you guys notice how besides the #2 player (godog) most of the players who wager the most BTC, don't make the most profit. Pretty crazy eh?

I would be nice to see a "Top Losers of the Week" and just wondering how those players are doing.

I remember a few years back, people would make like 50-100 BTC per day on Primedice, but I guess alot has changed.

What is crazy about that? I am pretty sure it is a possible thing to do, well I am not sure how he do it but I ever did exactly the same thing with him but because my balance is not thst big I do not have the chance to get huge profit but my wagered amount sure increasing fast. Btw there is no way they will put top losser of the week, because people will actually count on how much profit that they actually get or may be even can point something out from there that will harm owner as well

Dice site normally has 1 % house edge. That means you are losing 1 % of every amount you wagered. Given the current top 1 that wagered over 90 bitcoin, that mean he should be losing around 0.9 bitcoin. Thats why most of the top wagered are not on the top profit list, it is in the nature of gambling that gambler should be the one losing. The one winning alot is what we called as variance



Here is the previous week, unlike that one the high wagered players did tend to pull off larger profits. While it is true that variance decreases after more sessions of betting the tiny house edge here hardly seemed to have an effect on these players of this week above.

Also, right now these leaderboards aren't accounting for Ethereum/litecoin, we'll be patching that up soon Smiley

Looks like maker433, Deneme4321, and denemem44 and Makerdenemem are all exactly 1 person.

They all got the "deneme" in their nickname and the last "Makerdenemem" and "maker433" are also together.

So basically one gambler has done over 380BTC in wagered and won over 38BTC.

Whatever strategy he is using, it seems to work pretty well.
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August 08, 2018, 11:00:08 PM
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Do you guys notice how besides the #2 player (godog) most of the players who wager the most BTC, don't make the most profit. Pretty crazy eh?

I would be nice to see a "Top Losers of the Week" and just wondering how those players are doing.

I remember a few years back, people would make like 50-100 BTC per day on Primedice, but I guess alot has changed.

What is crazy about that? I am pretty sure it is a possible thing to do, well I am not sure how he do it but I ever did exactly the same thing with him but because my balance is not thst big I do not have the chance to get huge profit but my wagered amount sure increasing fast. Btw there is no way they will put top losser of the week, because people will actually count on how much profit that they actually get or may be even can point something out from there that will harm owner as well

Dice site normally has 1 % house edge. That means you are losing 1 % of every amount you wagered. Given the current top 1 that wagered over 90 bitcoin, that mean he should be losing around 0.9 bitcoin. Thats why most of the top wagered are not on the top profit list, it is in the nature of gambling that gambler should be the one losing. The one winning alot is what we called as variance



Here is the previous week, unlike that one the high wagered players did tend to pull off larger profits. While it is true that variance decreases after more sessions of betting the tiny house edge here hardly seemed to have an effect on these players of this week above.

Also, right now these leaderboards aren't accounting for Ethereum/litecoin, we'll be patching that up soon Smiley

Looks like maker433, Deneme4321, and denemem44 and Makerdenemem are all exactly 1 person.

They all got the "deneme" in their nickname and the last "Makerdenemem" and "maker433" are also together.

So basically one gambler has done over 380BTC in wagered and won over 38BTC.

Whatever strategy he is using, it seems to work pretty well.

Good catch, it's seems they are really similar because random names aren't like that + can't believe it's just coincidence. Also isn't it prohobited to own more than two account on primedice?
His strategy really works well but it's another question how much he lost too, even with 97% win chance, it's still pretty easy to lost your coin and even if you play like this: wager 1 btc until you lose, then try to profit that 1 btc <-- is very risky too. He is lucky...

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August 09, 2018, 07:41:02 AM
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Do you guys notice how besides the #2 player (godog) most of the players who wager the most BTC, don't make the most profit. Pretty crazy eh?

I would be nice to see a "Top Losers of the Week" and just wondering how those players are doing.

I remember a few years back, people would make like 50-100 BTC per day on Primedice, but I guess alot has changed.

What is crazy about that? I am pretty sure it is a possible thing to do, well I am not sure how he do it but I ever did exactly the same thing with him but because my balance is not thst big I do not have the chance to get huge profit but my wagered amount sure increasing fast. Btw there is no way they will put top losser of the week, because people will actually count on how much profit that they actually get or may be even can point something out from there that will harm owner as well

Dice site normally has 1 % house edge. That means you are losing 1 % of every amount you wagered. Given the current top 1 that wagered over 90 bitcoin, that mean he should be losing around 0.9 bitcoin. Thats why most of the top wagered are not on the top profit list, it is in the nature of gambling that gambler should be the one losing. The one winning alot is what we called as variance



Here is the previous week, unlike that one the high wagered players did tend to pull off larger profits. While it is true that variance decreases after more sessions of betting the tiny house edge here hardly seemed to have an effect on these players of this week above.

Also, right now these leaderboards aren't accounting for Ethereum/litecoin, we'll be patching that up soon Smiley

Looks like maker433, Deneme4321, and denemem44 and Makerdenemem are all exactly 1 person.

They all got the "deneme" in their nickname and the last "Makerdenemem" and "maker433" are also together.

So basically one gambler has done over 380BTC in wagered and won over 38BTC.

Whatever strategy he is using, it seems to work pretty well.

Good catch, it's seems they are really similar because random names aren't like that + can't believe it's just coincidence. Also isn't it prohobited to own more than two account on primedice?
His strategy really works well but it's another question how much he lost too, even with 97% win chance, it's still pretty easy to lost your coin and even if you play like this: wager 1 btc until you lose, then try to profit that 1 btc <-- is very risky too. He is lucky...

I am pretty sure in the terms its said somewhere "no more than 1 account" most sites have this term even if they don't enforce it.

What is really strange is why create so many alts, and be too lazy to think of nicknames that aren't related to each other.

Most likely this was deliberate. So knows, maybe he has more than 1 PC and is logged in simultaneously so he created all these accounts. One account for his work computer, home computer, mobile, vacation home computer, etc.
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August 09, 2018, 01:39:31 PM
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Does primedice do zero-confirmation deposits right now?

I think every once in a while they say they do, but it seems like right now they don't.

No, last time that I've used the site there was a 1 confirmation wait, to have on the site balance the amount deposited and be able to play

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August 09, 2018, 09:37:44 PM
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Does primedice do zero-confirmation deposits right now?

I think every once in a while they say they do, but it seems like right now they don't.

No, last time that I've used the site there was a 1 confirmation wait, to have on the site balance the amount deposited and be able to play

There is no such thing at the moment. It was a thing back then but not anymore (for now) due to safety reasons.

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August 10, 2018, 05:18:00 PM
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Does primedice do zero-confirmation deposits right now?

I think every once in a while they say they do, but it seems like right now they don't.

No, last time that I've used the site there was a 1 confirmation wait, to have on the site balance the amount deposited and be able to play

There is no such thing at the moment. It was a thing back then but not anymore (for now) due to safety reasons.

was this ever a reality at Primedice? think Bitsler did something like this
with all the confidence stuff and such and 0 confirmations,but I think they were quickly reassured by some shady doublespenders  Roll Eyes
seaking of my experience my deposits were only considered "confident" a couple of times,the rest I had to wait for 1  confirmation as usual
I'd rather wait a bit longer for my deposit but be sure the site I'm gambling at is not prone to attacks like that

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August 10, 2018, 11:03:21 PM
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was this ever a reality at Primedice? think Bitsler did something like this
with all the confidence stuff and such and 0 confirmations,but I think they were quickly reassured by some shady doublespenders  Roll Eyes
seaking of my experience my deposits were only considered "confident" a couple of times,the rest I had to wait for 1  confirmation as usual
I'd rather wait a bit longer for my deposit but be sure the site I'm gambling at is not prone to attacks like that

Yeah it was long ago.
And when Primedice 5 was launched a couple of months ago it was talked to reintroduce this feature again, but I'm not sure if it was active
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August 12, 2018, 07:33:44 AM
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Does primedice do zero-confirmation deposits right now?

I think every once in a while they say they do, but it seems like right now they don't.

No, last time that I've used the site there was a 1 confirmation wait, to have on the site balance the amount deposited and be able to play

There is no such thing at the moment. It was a thing back then but not anymore (for now) due to safety reasons.

was this ever a reality at Primedice? think Bitsler did something like this
with all the confidence stuff and such and 0 confirmations,but I think they were quickly reassured by some shady doublespenders  Roll Eyes
seaking of my experience my deposits were only considered "confident" a couple of times,the rest I had to wait for 1  confirmation as usual
I'd rather wait a bit longer for my deposit but be sure the site I'm gambling at is not prone to attacks like that

Wasn't one pro of Bitcoin Cash that they disabled the RBF (Replace by Fee) and hence it let merchants be able to accept 0 confirmation deposits.

Since RBF is disabled, if someone tries to spend the same input more than once it automatically gets rejected by all the nodes. This wasn't possible with RBF because they could always resend it as long as the miner fee was higher.

Either way, I see more of an annoyance with 0 confirmation deposits (instant) rather than more profits. I am sure most people are willing to wait the 10 minutes since fees are down and usually filled on the next block. If they enable it, it will make double spending very easy and people will deposit, make a large bet, if they lose, they will just double spend it. If they win, then they won't and will just withdraw.
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August 12, 2018, 11:28:06 AM
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I am pretty sure in the terms its said somewhere "no more than 1 account" most sites have this term even if they don't enforce it.

What is really strange is why create so many alts, and be too lazy to think of nicknames that aren't related to each other.

Most likely this was deliberate. So knows, maybe he has more than 1 PC and is logged in simultaneously so he created all these accounts. One account for his work computer, home computer, mobile, vacation home computer, etc.

Nope, mostly site will never give you more multiple accounts, what I know that the only site that giving 2 account per ip is bitsler but I do not know if they put it on their ToS or not. Anyway I just checked on primedice ToS and here what I found, so I do not think they allow players to have more than 1 accounts. Usually people created many accounts just for abusing the faucet but if the conditions they do not abuse it, I wondered if this is allowed or not

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5.1. PERSONAL USE. The Service is intended solely for the User’s personal use. The User is only allowed to wager for his/her personal entertainment and may not create multiple accounts, including for the purpose of collusion and/or abuse of service
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August 12, 2018, 09:56:02 PM
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Yes, the terms are clear.
Anyway, some players have a normal account, and a "bank/saving" or "stream-only" account, and it is not punished in any way, unless you find a way to abuse the service.
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August 12, 2018, 11:51:47 PM
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I am pretty sure in the terms its said somewhere "no more than 1 account" most sites have this term even if they don't enforce it.

What is really strange is why create so many alts, and be too lazy to think of nicknames that aren't related to each other.

Most likely this was deliberate. So knows, maybe he has more than 1 PC and is logged in simultaneously so he created all these accounts. One account for his work computer, home computer, mobile, vacation home computer, etc.

Nope, mostly site will never give you more multiple accounts, what I know that the only site that giving 2 account per ip is bitsler but I do not know if they put it on their ToS or not. Anyway I just checked on primedice ToS and here what I found, so I do not think they allow players to have more than 1 accounts. Usually people created many accounts just for abusing the faucet but if the conditions they do not abuse it, I wondered if this is allowed or not

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5.1. PERSONAL USE. The Service is intended solely for the User’s personal use. The User is only allowed to wager for his/her personal entertainment and may not create multiple accounts, including for the purpose of collusion and/or abuse of service

Please do not compare both Casinos (Primedice <-> Bitsler). They differ in so much from both professional sides.
For instance in Primedice you are allowed to have multiple accounts and play with them as long you follow the rules such as Faucet ones:


Where in Bitsler admin is so locked into bots / multiple accounts that you might be scared off in having such multiple ones.
If you didn't knew, Bitsler was DaDice before, same Staff just different Domain. They blow up their DaDice due to possible faucet levels farming and tried to block everyone's withdrawls and eventually busted in so they had to change their Domain / return back after some time like it was a new Casino / staff team (Bitsler)

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August 13, 2018, 07:06:01 AM
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  • Roll a winning bet hitting 22.22, then (not consecutively) roll a winning bet hitting 12.34 or 23.45 or 34.56.
  • Minimum bet is 100 satoshi or 1,200 ether or 10,000 litoshi.
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  • Bets must have been made after the commencement of this promotion.
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August 13, 2018, 03:41:12 PM
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I am pretty sure in the terms its said somewhere "no more than 1 account" most sites have this term even if they don't enforce it.

What is really strange is why create so many alts, and be too lazy to think of nicknames that aren't related to each other.

Most likely this was deliberate. So knows, maybe he has more than 1 PC and is logged in simultaneously so he created all these accounts. One account for his work computer, home computer, mobile, vacation home computer, etc.

Nope, mostly site will never give you more multiple accounts, what I know that the only site that giving 2 account per ip is bitsler but I do not know if they put it on their ToS or not. Anyway I just checked on primedice ToS and here what I found, so I do not think they allow players to have more than 1 accounts. Usually people created many accounts just for abusing the faucet but if the conditions they do not abuse it, I wondered if this is allowed or not

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5.1. PERSONAL USE. The Service is intended solely for the User’s personal use. The User is only allowed to wager for his/her personal entertainment and may not create multiple accounts, including for the purpose of collusion and/or abuse of service

Please do not compare both Casinos (Primedice <-> Bitsler). They differ in so much from both professional sides.
For instance in Primedice you are allowed to have multiple accounts and play with them as long you follow the rules such as Faucet ones:


Where in Bitsler admin is so locked into bots / multiple accounts that you might be scared off in having such multiple ones.
If you didn't knew, Bitsler was DaDice before, same Staff just different Domain. They blow up their DaDice due to possible faucet levels farming and tried to block everyone's withdrawls and eventually busted in so they had to change their Domain / return back after some time like it was a new Casino / staff team (Bitsler)

I am not really sure if you are following from what I said here. I told you bitsler allowed 2 account because that is what I know from playing there a lot, so updates will known. But I seldom played on primedice, only when there is a big event so I do not really know about their terms or anything. But when I checked on their ToS, it does not said that they allowed player to have more than 1 account like most of dice site
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August 13, 2018, 10:18:20 PM
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I am pretty sure in the terms its said somewhere "no more than 1 account" most sites have this term even if they don't enforce it.

What is really strange is why create so many alts, and be too lazy to think of nicknames that aren't related to each other.

Most likely this was deliberate. So knows, maybe he has more than 1 PC and is logged in simultaneously so he created all these accounts. One account for his work computer, home computer, mobile, vacation home computer, etc.

Nope, mostly site will never give you more multiple accounts, what I know that the only site that giving 2 account per ip is bitsler but I do not know if they put it on their ToS or not. Anyway I just checked on primedice ToS and here what I found, so I do not think they allow players to have more than 1 accounts. Usually people created many accounts just for abusing the faucet but if the conditions they do not abuse it, I wondered if this is allowed or not

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5.1. PERSONAL USE. The Service is intended solely for the User’s personal use. The User is only allowed to wager for his/her personal entertainment and may not create multiple accounts, including for the purpose of collusion and/or abuse of service

Please do not compare both Casinos (Primedice <-> Bitsler). They differ in so much from both professional sides.
For instance in Primedice you are allowed to have multiple accounts and play with them as long you follow the rules such as Faucet ones:


Where in Bitsler admin is so locked into bots / multiple accounts that you might be scared off in having such multiple ones.
If you didn't knew, Bitsler was DaDice before, same Staff just different Domain. They blow up their DaDice due to possible faucet levels farming and tried to block everyone's withdrawls and eventually busted in so they had to change their Domain / return back after some time like it was a new Casino / staff team (Bitsler)

I am not really sure if you are following from what I said here. I told you bitsler allowed 2 account because that is what I know from playing there a lot, so updates will known. But I seldom played on primedice, only when there is a big event so I do not really know about their terms or anything. But when I checked on their ToS, it does not said that they allowed player to have more than 1 account like most of dice site

True, Bitsler let you create 2 accounts, but not 3: "14.1. Having more than 2 accounts is strictly forbidden(by person/IP/house/family). "
Obviously, I think bitsler or Primedice don't care if for any reason you have 3 accounts in your house, as long as you don't use them for abusing the service.
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August 13, 2018, 10:35:51 PM
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I am pretty sure in the terms its said somewhere "no more than 1 account" most sites have this term even if they don't enforce it.

What is really strange is why create so many alts, and be too lazy to think of nicknames that aren't related to each other.

Most likely this was deliberate. So knows, maybe he has more than 1 PC and is logged in simultaneously so he created all these accounts. One account for his work computer, home computer, mobile, vacation home computer, etc.

Nope, mostly site will never give you more multiple accounts, what I know that the only site that giving 2 account per ip is bitsler but I do not know if they put it on their ToS or not. Anyway I just checked on primedice ToS and here what I found, so I do not think they allow players to have more than 1 accounts. Usually people created many accounts just for abusing the faucet but if the conditions they do not abuse it, I wondered if this is allowed or not

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5.1. PERSONAL USE. The Service is intended solely for the User’s personal use. The User is only allowed to wager for his/her personal entertainment and may not create multiple accounts, including for the purpose of collusion and/or abuse of service

Please do not compare both Casinos (Primedice <-> Bitsler). They differ in so much from both professional sides.
For instance in Primedice you are allowed to have multiple accounts and play with them as long you follow the rules such as Faucet ones:


Where in Bitsler admin is so locked into bots / multiple accounts that you might be scared off in having such multiple ones.
If you didn't knew, Bitsler was DaDice before, same Staff just different Domain. They blow up their DaDice due to possible faucet levels farming and tried to block everyone's withdrawls and eventually busted in so they had to change their Domain / return back after some time like it was a new Casino / staff team (Bitsler)

I am not really sure if you are following from what I said here. I told you bitsler allowed 2 account because that is what I know from playing there a lot, so updates will known. But I seldom played on primedice, only when there is a big event so I do not really know about their terms or anything. But when I checked on their ToS, it does not said that they allowed player to have more than 1 account like most of dice site

True, Bitsler let you create 2 accounts, but not 3: "14.1. Having more than 2 accounts is strictly forbidden(by person/IP/house/family). "
Obviously, I think bitsler or Primedice don't care if for any reason you have 3 accounts in your house, as long as you don't use them for abusing the service.

Well in general when someone makes multiple accounts they are "usually" doing it to abuse the system in some way.

The only legit way for making a new account is if you lost your 2FA for your old one. Basically what happened with me. I lost my phone and didn't know that Google 2FA app doesn't backup the codes. So I contacted the admin and they said "Just go ahead and make a new account since you had no balance on the old one".

These days when someone creates a bunch of accounts, I am pretty sure its to abuse the faucet in one way or another. Or who knows they've been a mean troll and got banned from the trollbox and made another account to "troll" away again.
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August 14, 2018, 03:55:54 PM
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I am pretty sure in the terms its said somewhere "no more than 1 account" most sites have this term even if they don't enforce it.

What is really strange is why create so many alts, and be too lazy to think of nicknames that aren't related to each other.

Most likely this was deliberate. So knows, maybe he has more than 1 PC and is logged in simultaneously so he created all these accounts. One account for his work computer, home computer, mobile, vacation home computer, etc.

Nope, mostly site will never give you more multiple accounts, what I know that the only site that giving 2 account per ip is bitsler but I do not know if they put it on their ToS or not. Anyway I just checked on primedice ToS and here what I found, so I do not think they allow players to have more than 1 accounts. Usually people created many accounts just for abusing the faucet but if the conditions they do not abuse it, I wondered if this is allowed or not

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5.1. PERSONAL USE. The Service is intended solely for the User’s personal use. The User is only allowed to wager for his/her personal entertainment and may not create multiple accounts, including for the purpose of collusion and/or abuse of service

Please do not compare both Casinos (Primedice <-> Bitsler). They differ in so much from both professional sides.
For instance in Primedice you are allowed to have multiple accounts and play with them as long you follow the rules such as Faucet ones:


Where in Bitsler admin is so locked into bots / multiple accounts that you might be scared off in having such multiple ones.
If you didn't knew, Bitsler was DaDice before, same Staff just different Domain. They blow up their DaDice due to possible faucet levels farming and tried to block everyone's withdrawls and eventually busted in so they had to change their Domain / return back after some time like it was a new Casino / staff team (Bitsler)

I am not really sure if you are following from what I said here. I told you bitsler allowed 2 account because that is what I know from playing there a lot, so updates will known. But I seldom played on primedice, only when there is a big event so I do not really know about their terms or anything. But when I checked on their ToS, it does not said that they allowed player to have more than 1 account like most of dice site

True, Bitsler let you create 2 accounts, but not 3: "14.1. Having more than 2 accounts is strictly forbidden(by person/IP/house/family). "
Obviously, I think bitsler or Primedice don't care if for any reason you have 3 accounts in your house, as long as you don't use them for abusing the service.

Let me ask you this way, so what is the point of having more than 1 account then if they do not have the intention to abuse it? What adaseb saying is true, nowadays people make more account just to abuse the faucet as well, like aiming 9900x and keep doing this forever, if you do not banned this kind of abuser, your site is not going to develop as well
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August 14, 2018, 04:35:43 PM
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Let me ask you this way, so what is the point of having more than 1 account then if they do not have the intention to abuse it? What adaseb saying is true, nowadays people make more account just to abuse the faucet as well, like aiming 9900x and keep doing this forever, if you do not banned this kind of abuser, your site is not going to develop as well

It is normal to have more than 1 account, but max 2 accounts. First account which is the main account is used for betting purpose and the second account is usually being used as "bank" account. Obviously if the main purpose of having multi accounts is to abuse something then it should be banned. But I know there is a dice site that lets you to have multiple accounts as long as the accounts are not self-referred to gain profit from the affiliate program.

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August 14, 2018, 09:23:34 PM
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Well for instances you can always use multiple Accounts for strategic bets.
Such as:

- Getting more bet rolls for a specific Giveaway (meanwhile betting on all accounts you have simultaneous and see which one has better rolls for that giveaway)
- Avoiding some probabilistics upsets if lets say some accounts have worst losing streaks.

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