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September 24, 2014, 09:21:18 PM |
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How do i change the seed for the site??? and is it possible to see future rolls?
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Daggett993
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September 24, 2014, 09:30:06 PM |
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Still doesn't make sense how I lost... seems fishy, but is it best to change seed every 50-100 bets or so?
The way provably fair works is that setting your client seed is what determines every bet you will make with that seed, because each roll is server seed + client seed + nonce (the nonce is adding a sequential numbers to the end). Adding a number to the client seed makes the roll change randomly. From when you first set your client seed, the server can determine what your next 1 billion rolls would be if they wanted to. They cannot however, change or manipulate these rolls. If you feel you are unlucky, changing the client seed will change the outcome of your future rolls, so some people choose to do that because it makes them feel better, but statistically it provides no advantage. It just gives you a different set of future rolls. ok so if you were to change your seed for EVERY ROLL...what in the code ensures the outcome of the rolls will be as advertised percent? hmmm =O The number you get for each roll is mashing up the server seed, and client seed with the nonce at the end, to get a number. I believe they have a verification page in their FAQ that explains this. But when you make the rolls, you do not know your server seed. After changing your client seed, you can see your past server seed and client seed with the nonce of the bet, and mash it together for each rolls and see that they add up to the number you were given. How do i change the seed for the site??? and is it possible to see future rolls?
The website can see future rolls because they have the server seed and your client seed. They cannot change them however because those are locked in and the same until YOU change them. They could for instance see that you were about to win 10 times in a row but there is nothing they could do about it. Because you don't know your server seed until after you choose to change it, you cannot do the calculations beforehand and see your rolls.
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September 24, 2014, 09:37:53 PM |
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PRIMEDICE THIS SCAMMER
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B4RF
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September 24, 2014, 09:43:12 PM |
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That's what really fucked me tho, would get consistent hi and los within 5-6 bets, the after about 3k bets, would get like 13 streak hi, 10-20 rolls later get a 13 streak lo, really throws off my game. Then I start switching more and losing on every switch just like WTF... gets frustrating, but having a different set of rolls would help I think if I'm failing to see the patterns, or they are more complex.
A streak of 13 losses is very common on a 2*payout. Take a coin and flip it about 10k times, the possibility of you flipping head (or tail) 13 times (or even more often) in row while doing this is very high.
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September 24, 2014, 09:53:15 PM |
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That's what really fucked me tho, would get consistent hi and los within 5-6 bets, the after about 3k bets, would get like 13 streak hi, 10-20 rolls later get a 13 streak lo, really throws off my game. Then I start switching more and losing on every switch just like WTF... gets frustrating, but having a different set of rolls would help I think if I'm failing to see the patterns, or they are more complex.
A streak of 13 losses is very common on a 2*payout. Take a coin and flip it about 10k times, the possibility of you flipping head (or tail) 13 times (or even more often) in row while doing this is very high. you have honestly flipped a coin ten thousand times? suuuure
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B4RF
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September 24, 2014, 10:01:52 PM |
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That's what really fucked me tho, would get consistent hi and los within 5-6 bets, the after about 3k bets, would get like 13 streak hi, 10-20 rolls later get a 13 streak lo, really throws off my game. Then I start switching more and losing on every switch just like WTF... gets frustrating, but having a different set of rolls would help I think if I'm failing to see the patterns, or they are more complex.
A streak of 13 losses is very common on a 2*payout. Take a coin and flip it about 10k times, the possibility of you flipping head (or tail) 13 times (or even more often) in row while doing this is very high. you have honestly flipped a coin ten thousand times? suuuure No I haven't But this shows that the possibility is quite high even on a normal event like a coinflip if you do it 10k times. And 10k bets on primedice is almost nothing for most of the users.
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nyktalgia
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September 24, 2014, 10:34:18 PM |
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Lol i just made .15 pretty quicklyo... think i figured out what i was doing wrong... I just needed to vent, just hoping i can recoup and start profitting... I lost a lot off cloak coins so I'm prob just emotional cause of that... let you know if i ever break even :/
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dooglus
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September 24, 2014, 10:40:54 PM |
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I bet the people who profit 5+ btc work or are affiliated with primedice somehow. Of course you need some people to profit to make the site look legit. Other people who have profit make like .01 a day about, that is chump change.
I don't work and I am not affiliated with primedice in any way. I used to run their biggest competitor site in fact. I have made over 15 BTC playing on PrimeDice. Here are my stats: Statistics WINS 160 LOSSES 74 LUCK [?] 101.55%
Overall TOTAL WAGERED 89.85204857 TOTAL PROFIT 15.00058008 TOTAL BETS 234 Their site is provably fair. If you think they cheated you, try verifying your rolls. If they cheated you, publish the details so everyone can know they cheat. If they didn't cheat you (and I'm willing to bet that they didn't) then be man enough to admit that the rolls check out. The only way you can profit here is if you waste your entire life on this stupid shit. Anytime you go for big scores you usually get fucked, even if the odds are greatly in your favor.
I've only spent a few hours on the site, and only made 234 bets. I made large bets and did well on them. The odds are never in your favour - there is always a 1% edge in the house's favour. I fucking swear I did great on this site, I should have cashed out... they track my IP once I do really well, and end up stealing everything from me with bogus rolls.
You sound like a paranoid idiot. Why would they need to track your IP when you're signed in to your account? And how could they "steal" from you when all the rolls are provably fair? Simply verify that you got the rolls you were meant to get. Show me one person who has actually won money from PD. The site would not exist if they weren't scamming all of you suckers.
I actually won 15 BTC from PD. The site exists because in the long run the 1% house edge means that the site wins more than it loses. I'm convinced anybody over 5+ btc profit there is affiliated with the site in some way. Who the fuck would run a legit gambling website? Even with house edge, the shit is such a fucking scam.
You're wrong about that. I have no affiliation with the site and have a 15 BTC profit. I have run a legit gambling website in the past. It had a 1% house edge, took bets totalling over 5 million BTC and profited only 19000 BTC. You're making a fool of yourself. I would suggest you calm down and then try to understand how the site works. They can prove to you that you weren't cheated. Maybe ask a smarter friend to take a look at it with you.
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dooglus
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September 24, 2014, 10:43:25 PM |
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Lol i just made .15 pretty quicklyo... think i figured out what i was doing wrong... I just needed to vent, just hoping i can recoup and start profitting... I lost a lot off cloak coins so I'm prob just emotional cause of that... let you know if i ever break even :/
Long losing streaks do happen if you play long enough. I had one just this morning (on a different site) that cost me around 30 BTC:
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boumalo
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September 24, 2014, 11:11:05 PM |
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I bet the people who profit 5+ btc work or are affiliated with primedice somehow. Of course you need some people to profit to make the site look legit. Other people who have profit make like .01 a day about, that is chump change.
I don't work and I am not affiliated with primedice in any way. I used to run their biggest competitor site in fact. I have made over 15 BTC playing on PrimeDice. Here are my stats: Statistics WINS 160 LOSSES 74 LUCK [?] 101.55%
Overall TOTAL WAGERED 89.85204857 TOTAL PROFIT 15.00058008 TOTAL BETS 234 Their site is provably fair. If you think they cheated you, try verifying your rolls. If they cheated you, publish the details so everyone can know they cheat. If they didn't cheat you (and I'm willing to bet that they didn't) then be man enough to admit that the rolls check out. The only way you can profit here is if you waste your entire life on this stupid shit. Anytime you go for big scores you usually get fucked, even if the odds are greatly in your favor.
I've only spent a few hours on the site, and only made 234 bets. I made large bets and did well on them. The odds are never in your favour - there is always a 1% edge in the house's favour. I fucking swear I did great on this site, I should have cashed out... they track my IP once I do really well, and end up stealing everything from me with bogus rolls.
You sound like a paranoid idiot. Why would they need to track your IP when you're signed in to your account? And how could they "steal" from you when all the rolls are provably fair? Simply verify that you got the rolls you were meant to get. Show me one person who has actually won money from PD. The site would not exist if they weren't scamming all of you suckers.
I actually won 15 BTC from PD. The site exists because in the long run the 1% house edge means that the site wins more than it loses. I'm convinced anybody over 5+ btc profit there is affiliated with the site in some way. Who the fuck would run a legit gambling website? Even with house edge, the shit is such a fucking scam.
You're wrong about that. I have no affiliation with the site and have a 15 BTC profit. I have run a legit gambling website in the past. It had a 1% house edge, took bets totalling over 5 million BTC and profited only 19000 BTC. You're making a fool of yourself. I would suggest you calm down and then try to understand how the site works. They can prove to you that you weren't cheated. Maybe ask a smarter friend to take a look at it with you. Nice post dooglus and congrats on being +15BTC on PD, you must miss running JD
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Sickler
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September 24, 2014, 11:46:43 PM |
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Lol i just made .15 pretty quicklyo... think i figured out what i was doing wrong... I just needed to vent, just hoping i can recoup and start profitting... I lost a lot off cloak coins so I'm prob just emotional cause of that... let you know if i ever break even :/
Long losing streaks do happen if you play long enough. I had one just this morning (on a different site) that cost me around 30 BTC: Guessing the max bet was 6.4? Shouldn't have kept betting the max. You can't go anywhere with it if you lose.
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Chemistry1988
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September 24, 2014, 11:59:45 PM |
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Guessing the max bet was 6.4? Shouldn't have kept betting the max. You can't go anywhere with it if you lose.
The max profit for each bet is ~6.7, and don't worry doog is still having a nice 24btc profit there after today's loss.
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Shogen
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September 25, 2014, 12:46:57 AM |
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Montal you not online for a long while.....
Maybe he is now at a better financial condition so that he don't need to stay on PD for hours. Btw, his last post here mentioned about his 0.23 btc deposit, so I am pretty sure his life is easier than it was.
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September 25, 2014, 12:51:40 AM |
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Montal you not online for a long while.....
Maybe he is now at a better financial condition so that he don't need to stay on PD for hours. Btw, his last post here mentioned about his 0.23 btc deposit, so I am pretty sure his life is easier than it was. Yea I am planning to invest in him, he's a great guy.
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September 25, 2014, 01:00:41 AM |
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Lol i just made .15 pretty quicklyo... think i figured out what i was doing wrong... I just needed to vent, just hoping i can recoup and start profitting... I lost a lot off cloak coins so I'm prob just emotional cause of that... let you know if i ever break even :/
Long losing streaks do happen if you play long enough. I had one just this morning (on a different site) that cost me around 30 BTC: How much bitcoins does dooglus have?
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Sickler
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September 25, 2014, 01:48:54 AM |
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In regards to Montalslog, last time I spoke to him things had gotten worse with his wife's incident. He doesn't really have time anymore to come on PD and chat. He said he'd try to come around once in a while.
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williamj2543
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September 25, 2014, 02:02:55 AM |
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Lol i just made .15 pretty quicklyo... think i figured out what i was doing wrong... I just needed to vent, just hoping i can recoup and start profitting... I lost a lot off cloak coins so I'm prob just emotional cause of that... let you know if i ever break even :/
Long losing streaks do happen if you play long enough. I had one just this morning (on a different site) that cost me around 30 BTC: How much bitcoins does dooglus have? Dooglus owned just-dice, the largest bitcoin gambling site in the world (primedice is catching up, just-dice has been stopped), so he has a ton of money from that. Probably one of the richest bitcoiners, and he keeps a watch and tests all of the casinos on these forums.
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Stunna (OP)
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September 25, 2014, 07:46:14 AM |
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Update Notes 9/25- Official API info can now finally be found here: https://primedice.com/api
- Jackpot promotion is now over, rolling a 77.77 should no longer trigger the jackpot effect. Edge is back at 1% on a typical roll, stay tuned for future promotions.
- A very small number of users have enabled two-factor authentication please do so under your profile if you store a significant amount of coins.
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Stars
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September 25, 2014, 08:09:31 AM |
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Update Notes 9/25- Official API info can now finally be found here: https://primedice.com/api
- Jackpot promotion is now over, rolling a 77.77 should no longer trigger the jackpot effect. Edge is back at 1% on a typical roll, stay tuned for future promotions.
- A very small number of users have enabled two-factor authentication please do so under your profile if you store a significant amount of coins.
Not sure how hard it would be to check but anyhow, what was the biggest win on the jackpot roll?
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