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[danksheeet]

Does it make a difference if I use autobet in betting?

nope, manual and autobetting same fate, you will lose in the long run.

how do you know he's gona loose in the long run. alot of people win

[ranochigo]

Does it make a difference if I use autobet in betting?

nope, manual and autobetting same fate, you will lose in the long run.

how do you know he's gona loose in the long run. alot of people win

There's no strategy in gambling, with the house edge, you are more likely to lose your bankroll than winning. If you're lucky, you may win a few runs but you will eventually lose all of it.

[dooglus]

how do you know he's gona loose in the long run. alot of people win

There's no strategy in gambling, with the house edge, you are more likely to lose your bankroll than winning. If you're lucky, you may win a few runs but you will eventually lose all of it.

Someone told me a while ago that "most people lose", so I checked the Just-Dice stats:

There are 944494 accounts:

915229 of them with zero profit

 29265 with non-zero profit

 11782 with positive profit      17483 with negative profit

    20     0.0000000x               24    -0.0000000x
    28     0.000000xx               30    -0.000000xx
    73     0.00000xxx               52    -0.00000xxx
   176     0.0000xxxx              280    -0.0000xxxx
   667     0.000xxxxx             1597    -0.000xxxxx
  1621     0.00xxxxxx             2889    -0.00xxxxxx
  3402     0.0xxxxxxx             4475    -0.0xxxxxxx
  3732     0.xxxxxxxx             4561    -0.xxxxxxxx
  1599     x.xxxxxxxx             2754    -x.xxxxxxxx
   388    xx.xxxxxxxx              717   -xx.xxxxxxxx
    69   xxx.xxxxxxxx               95  -xxx.xxxxxxxx
     7  xxxx.xxxxxxxx                9 -xxxx.xxxxxxxx

So 59.7% of the accounts with a non-zero profit had a negative profit, and so in a sense "most people lose".

I was expecting that number to be much higher. 59.7% seems low to me.

Notice that at every order of magnitude except one the losers outnumber the winnings. It's only in the 100's of satoshis range that there are more winners than losers.

[Sickler]

Wish I was one of the 69 or 7 people with 3-4 digits of positive BTC lol



Instead I'm one of the 2754 with -X.XXXXXXXX :/

[monnecon]

Wish I was one of the 69 or 7 people with 3-4 digits of positive BTC lol



Instead I'm one of the 2754 with -X.XXXXXXXX :/

Lol. I thought you were positive 1 btc? Also check your pm inbox.

[Sickler]

I'm talking about Just-Dice not Primedice.

[monnecon]

I'm talking about Just-Dice not Primedice.

Oh, I thought you were talking about pd because it's the pd thread...

[Sickler]

I'm talking about Just-Dice not Primedice.

Oh, I thought you were talking about pd because it's the pd thread...

Yeah, but dooglus was talking about JD and I quoted him.

[dooglus]

I'm talking about Just-Dice not Primedice.

Oh, I thought you were talking about pd because it's the pd thread...

Yeah, but dooglus was talking about JD and I quoted him.

Yeah, sorry for the confusion. Someone said that everyone loses, and PD doesn't post those kinds of stats, so I posted what I had.

Turns out less than 60% lose!

[omahapoker]

i'm gonna go out on a limb and say 12 out of every 20 gamblers lose at dice.



I could be 1 leg  and 1 arm off. or 2 legs and no arms off




I'm one of those 12 losers BTW

[galbros]

Turns out less than 60% lose!

Thanks for this data dooglus, it is cool to see and I like the way you broke it down.  Do you have any sense of how many people might have started another account because an earlier one was in a loss?  I know that I hated to constantly be reminded of my losses when I played at JD.  I imagine many others felt the same.  Since you expected the number to be higher (and so did I) could this explain part of it - I gamble and lose and then start a second account, get it to a win and stick with that?  Or do you think most users didn't care that much?

I can see something like levels (or the prestlge of low user IDs on JD) working against this however.

[monnecon]

I'm talking about Just-Dice not Primedice.

Oh, I thought you were talking about pd because it's the pd thread...

Yeah, but dooglus was talking about JD and I quoted him.

Yeah, sorry for the confusion. Someone said that everyone loses, and PD doesn't post those kinds of stats, so I posted what I had.

Turns out less than 60% lose!

Woah, that's pretty amazing if you think about it. Most of the people in other gambling sites are negative, always.

[Thirdspace]

am I the only who still can't connect to PD?
I keep getting this error on chrome, seems like certificate error

Error code: ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH

trying to bypass it but I couldn't find cert settings on chrome

[paradoxal420]

The devs are clueless, and Stunna apparently won't pay for CloudFlare premium even though it's $20 a month for pro, which has way better DDoS mitigation and speed compared to the free nodes. Meanwhile, the webserver IP can be directly accessed and the staff is nowhere to be found like usual.

This is false. All interactivity with the PD site goes through websockets. Only Enterprise customers from Cloudflare have websocket support. Enterprise is around $5,000 per month and obviously not worth it.

Actually true statement. Do you really think they provide a quality free service? No and that's why the latency is so high. The nodes are DDoSed with multi GB botnets almost 24/7. They spend more time mitigating the pro, business and enterprise attacks.

I realized this after I said it. They need to use a different service because all cloudflare free does is slow down the site more.

FYI: The only thing that goes through websockets are the live stat updates & chat. and that isn't being processed through cloudflare. Websockets are being processed directly through a cheap herokuapp server(s) with a shared CPU..

I just don't understand all of this. Because in reality PD traffic is actually at an all time low. So is the number of bets. There are about 1000 bets every 5 seconds or so. There are only like 120 people on at a time now. But during August before they capped everything and made a bunch of changes --  I could shoot out 1000 bets every 5 seconds, just on my account. And that was WITH 400 people online and WAYYY more bets being processed


Edit: Apparently this one players level is higher in their stats than in their profile tab. Either this is a glitch from the chat EXP nerf or the DB shards aren't synced correctly.

Edit2: Nevermind this is for everybody. Definitely the chat nerf

[Stunna]

The devs are clueless, and Stunna apparently won't pay for CloudFlare premium even though it's $20 a month for pro, which has way better DDoS mitigation and speed compared to the free nodes. Meanwhile, the webserver IP can be directly accessed and the staff is nowhere to be found like usual.

This is false. All interactivity with the PD site goes through websockets. Only Enterprise customers from Cloudflare have websocket support. Enterprise is around $5,000 per month and obviously not worth it.

Actually true statement. Do you really think they provide a quality free service? No and that's why the latency is so high. The nodes are DDoSed with multi GB botnets almost 24/7. They spend more time mitigating the pro, business and enterprise attacks.

I realized this after I said it. They need to use a different service because all cloudflare free does is slow down the site more.

FYI: The only thing that goes through websockets are the live stat updates & chat. and that isn't being processed through cloudflare. Websockets are being processed directly through a cheap herokuapp server(s) with a shared CPU..

I just don't understand all of this. Because in reality PD traffic is actually at an all time low. So is the number of bets. There are about 1000 bets every 5 seconds or so. There are only like 120 people on at a time now. But during August before they capped everything and made a bunch of changes --  I could shoot out 1000 bets every 5 seconds, just on my account. And that was WITH 400 people online and WAYYY more bets being processed


Edit: Apparently this one players level is higher in their stats than in their profile tab. Either this is a glitch from the chat EXP nerf or the DB shards aren't synced correctly.

Edit2: Nevermind this is for everybody. Definitely the chat nerf

Traffic is actually at an all time high. The active users on the landing page used to be inaccurate as it was counting the number of socket connections which didn't reflect the number of users. As for bets we're processing over 14 million a day now which is 3x higher than when we launched Primedice3 and nearly 20x higher than Primedice2.

Scaling our servers is a definite issue for us

As for the cloudflare issue we're already working on a fix. We were forced to downgrade our CF due to means out of our control.

[CoinCollect]

I lost 12 btc can i get it back ?

[BAGOBO]

recently PD i play at PD
why the bet become slower than before ?

Is there any problem with my connection or prob on PD's ?

I lost 12 btc can i get it back ?

If all player do the same thing as yours

PD will bankrupt 

[omahapoker]

I lost 12 btc can i get it back ?

of course you can get it back.


deposit 2BTC at PD and win back your 12 BTC that you lost

[gangz]

recently PD i play at PD
why the bet become slower than before ?

Is there any problem with my connection or prob on PD's ?

I lost 12 btc can i get it back ?

If all player do the same thing as yours

PD will bankrupt 

You're not alone, it seems Stunna is aware of the problem though so I'm sure it'll be fixed soon. 

[ltcnim]

The devs are clueless, and Stunna apparently won't pay for CloudFlare premium even though it's $20 a month for pro, which has way better DDoS mitigation and speed compared to the free nodes. Meanwhile, the webserver IP can be directly accessed and the staff is nowhere to be found like usual.

This is false. All interactivity with the PD site goes through websockets. Only Enterprise customers from Cloudflare have websocket support. Enterprise is around $5,000 per month and obviously not worth it.

Actually true statement. Do you really think they provide a quality free service? No and that's why the latency is so high. The nodes are DDoSed with multi GB botnets almost 24/7. They spend more time mitigating the pro, business and enterprise attacks.

I realized this after I said it. They need to use a different service because all cloudflare free does is slow down the site more.

FYI: The only thing that goes through websockets are the live stat updates & chat. and that isn't being processed through cloudflare. Websockets are being processed directly through a cheap herokuapp server(s) with a shared CPU..

I just don't understand all of this. Because in reality PD traffic is actually at an all time low. So is the number of bets. There are about 1000 bets every 5 seconds or so. There are only like 120 people on at a time now. But during August before they capped everything and made a bunch of changes --  I could shoot out 1000 bets every 5 seconds, just on my account. And that was WITH 400 people online and WAYYY more bets being processed


Edit: Apparently this one players level is higher in their stats than in their profile tab. Either this is a glitch from the chat EXP nerf or the DB shards aren't synced correctly.

Edit2: Nevermind this is for everybody. Definitely the chat nerf

Traffic is actually at an all time high. The active users on the landing page used to be inaccurate as it was counting the number of socket connections which didn't reflect the number of users. As for bets we're processing over 14 million a day now which is 3x higher than when we launched Primedice3 and nearly 20x higher than Primedice2.

Scaling our servers is a definite issue for us

As for the cloudflare issue we're already working on a fix. We were forced to downgrade our CF due to means out of our control.

judging by the all bets tab, most bets are dust. I always liked the way JD was handling dust bets. while bigger bets went through without delay, very small bets were delayed by purpose.
that way big gamblers have a smooth gambling experience, and the backend doesn't get hammered by dust that much.