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August 11, 2019, 04:21:31 PM
Last edit: August 11, 2019, 04:45:42 PM by EA001
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Anyway the Cards as they will be duplicated Spectrocoin cards and Bankera cards we could see pretty good return on WR as now the fees will be on both cards

Yes the cards will be a very good part of our weekly revenue payouts. Imagine at one point, we can take a loan from those WR's and leverage them and pay back with BNK. So hold BNK tokens in multiple wallets and get WR on all those different wallets Cheesy

I guess Bankera Wallet will be our fiat gateway then to online purchases like PayPal while our crypto is in other products whether that is their platform or not. There seems to be a lot of ways to use the ecosystem and BNK utility
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August 11, 2019, 04:22:40 PM
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Just imagine they would start loans on bnk with keeping your wr!

Tgat wpuld be awsome...paying.the loan at reduce fee and getting the WR ... but the system to be good needs WR to be higher than payed interest of loan

You get more loans so higher wr, so you want more bnk so you get a loan etc... it keeps building itself up!

Of course but first I think the forst shoot will be with Cards which will show us the power of the WR

Well they are being printed now. So we will know soon!

Last year we had +65.000 active cards...which could shoot the WR at a decent amount...and so if now we get may be 90.000 users asking for cards...and if everyone get two cards....that would be awsome...I have not read if one participant in ICO can get bith cards? I only know I can get one the Spectrocoin one...but may be we will also able to get both?
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August 11, 2019, 04:51:25 PM
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Thanks Nutildah we got it! Again you have no proof for saying so. If you have proofen information, means reliable facts (Evidence) then come up with.

Filling the page with you copy past FUD brings nothing!

Well, I mean, the SpectroCoin stealing hundreds of BTC from its users over the last 3 years is pretty bad. Why don't you start with answering the scam accusations against Bankera 1 by 1? Here they are again for your easy reference:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2126829.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2373307.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2605779.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2135371.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2302255.0

And here's some scam accusations from other websites:

https://www.southlaisthefuture.com/bankera-ico-review-a-1-1-billion-scam/
https://www.cointelligence.com/exchanges_list/bankera/
https://medium.com/@slobodangeorgiev/bankera-the-era-of-monkey-style-ico-d7e2fc0524fd
http://bittrust.org/spectrocoin
https://iconow.net/lithuanias-central-bank-investigates-100-million-euro-bankera-ico/
https://www.coindesk.com/lithuanias-central-bank-probes-100-million-euro-ico
https://cryptocurrencytalk.com/video/view/86737-bankera-ico-bankera-ico-review-a-11-billion-scam/

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August 11, 2019, 05:02:52 PM
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Also here a summary of real Information for the Project: ( This is information which is trustful)

Regarding all the story related to UAB Pervesk, Spectrocoin, Lithuanian Bank and FNTT, long story short:

1) Lithuanian Bank has checked UAB Pervesk (partnership with Bankera, belongs to the same owners, has an Electronic Mony license in Lithuania with a right to operate in all European Union Member States), FNTT  (lit. - Finansinių Nusikaltimų Tyrimo Tarnyba - special Lithuanian criminal investigation body for the investigation of the financial crimes and all related) also participated in this audit.

use google translate (Verslo Žinios in Lithuania is the same as Financial Times for the rest of the world - the most credible resource):
https://www.vz.lt/rinkos/2018/09/21/mokejimu-istaigai-ir-jos-vadovui--12-mln-eur-baudu

2) all the story is about KYC regulations - Know Your Client it is connected to AML (Anti Money Laundering), policies the Finantial institutions (UAB Pervesk in this case) has to implement to prevent crimes, basically to collect a relevant data from your Clients related to the source of the money. This audit had nothing to do with a scam or something like that!!!!!

3) One more time - the story with fines and FNTT is only related to KYC procedures!! Only!!!

4) Vilnius regional administrative court has lifted All the fines from UAB Pervesk and it`s CEO!!

read an 12-06-2019 article about that in Verslo Žinios (google translate will help):
https://www.vz.lt/rinkos/2019/06/12/teismas-panaikino-baudas-bankeros-ikurejui-ir-susijusiai-imonei

and our Lithuanian second biggest news website 15min:
https://www.15min.lt/verslas/naujiena/bendroves/teismas-panaikino-pervesk-ir-jos-vadovui-skirtas-baudas-663-1158840


5) AND FINALLY - LITHUANIAN CENTRAL BANK HAS ANNOUNCED ITSELF THAT on 25-01-2019 IT HAS LIFTED ALL THE RESTRICTIONS AND UAB PERVESK HAS NO MORE KYC ISSUES!!!!
READ OFFICIAL LITHUANIAN BANK`S STATEMENT ON THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE!!!

https://www.lb.lt/lt/naujienos/lietuvos-banko-valdybos-nutarimai-140

Second section of the announcement, google translate will help to translate from Lithuanian.

Believe only official-governmental resources!!!!
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Can you please address why there are so many unresolved scam accusations against your project? Seems like its been thoroughly outed a scam. Care to explain how all of these people can be wrong?
Well I guess you have to take into account the people making the scam accusations. There are, for example, plenty of accusations floating around that the moon landings were faked, the earth is flat, the Queen of England is an alien lizard, etc. Some people genuinely believe nonsense, and that's one of the things that makes life interesting, albeit infuriating, I'm sure you will agree.
The problem comes when other people start to try and make mischief by furthering such nonsense for their own ends. That's reprehensible.

As an investor in Bankera I can only say that, if it is a scam, it's the strangest scam I've ever encountered.
Two years after being given all that ICO money the founders continue to answer questions in chat.bankera.com; they continue to send money to every token holder every week and they insist on building products and releasing them. Why, indeed how, do they do those things if they have, as alleged here, no staff, no offices and no money left? Occam's razor is your guide here, the simplest explanation is the most likely to be correct. They do it because they do have staff, offices and money and are working on delivering Bankera as promised.
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August 11, 2019, 06:02:59 PM
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Just imagine they would start loans on bnk with keeping your wr!

Tgat wpuld be awsome...paying.the loan at reduce fee and getting the WR ... but the system to be good needs WR to be higher than payed interest of loan

You get more loans so higher wr, so you want more bnk so you get a loan etc... it keeps building itself up!

Of course but first I think the forst shoot will be with Cards which will show us the power of the WR

Well they are being printed now. So we will know soon!

Last year we had +65.000 active cards...which could shoot the WR at a decent amount...and so if now we get may be 90.000 users asking for cards...and if everyone get two cards....that would be awsome...I have not read if one participant in ICO can get bith cards? I only know I can get one the Spectrocoin one...but may be we will also able to get both?

Card numbers will be much higher next time. Remember many are waiting on their free card.
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August 11, 2019, 06:06:43 PM
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Are there any non-newbies or Jr Members in this thread that actually like this coin? Seems to be only a bunch of stooge accounts all woken up around the same time and then angry investors who feel duped. I'd like to hear from a legitimate token holder.

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August 11, 2019, 06:08:13 PM
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Nice! We are climbing! All this attention is having his effect on the price!
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Well, I mean, the SpectroCoin stealing hundreds of BTC from its users over the last 3 years is pretty bad. Why don't you start with answering the scam accusations against Bankera 1 by 1? Here they are again for your easy reference:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2126829.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2373307.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2605779.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2135371.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2302255.0

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1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2126829.0. The CEO wrote replies and it is internal matter, but the CEO screnshots showcase that the thread was opened just because he refused to do unethical practice which is hire paid shills or buy their accounts as they have good posting history.

2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2373307.0. Compliance issues are common in all centralized brokerages and/or exchanges and any financial service provider. I don't know why the response was so late or whatever but I assume the funds were not locked on SpectroCoin and he has the option to withdraw his funds so they were not "scammed" rather there were restrictions maybe based on geolocation or whatever KYC/AML reason - this information is for sure internal and I do not have any source to such information to ask why the user KYC was rejected. It says compliance so it is safe to assume it is KYC/AML issue, yet again I he or she did not say that their funds is locked and cannot be withdrawn so...

3. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2605779.40. I used Google Translate and the messages seem all neutral. Check them out yourself and let me know. I don't see any scam accusations like any money was lost or anything..

4. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2135371.0. This is not particularly a scam accusation but rather a user ranting why Vytautas account is still there. He was marked red because of that first link because of users attacking him for money and his screenshots seem very valid.

5. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2302255.0. Seriously? This is nothing... Someone saying it is scam just because they had successful pre-ICO. They did not have any working product at that time.. how? what? why?.. it is obviously nothing to mention or comment on.

And the external links are answered in Scrooge message about the Lithuanian Central Bank watching Bankera and its sister companies closely and looking over their shoulders and the fact that they won a case against the Lithuanian Central Bank is great news and the article shows that they operate in compliance to all KYC/AML regulations in the EU.

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[Edit]: If we are to call every project a scam just because 0.0001% of actual people who have registered in it, then everything is a scam. Realistically, nothing is perfect and there always will be issues with users in any project big or small but that does not make it a scam. I use SpectroCoin since 2017 and for me it is all good and I know for certain a lot others also use it since 2013. If all users are losing their money, there won't be a project alive till this day. We see how hard they work to update their platform and phone apps to include more and more - those are not scam signs, those are business growing signs and willingness to provide more for their users.
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August 11, 2019, 06:18:13 PM
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Just imagine they would start loans on bnk with keeping your wr!

Tgat wpuld be awsome...paying.the loan at reduce fee and getting the WR ... but the system to be good needs WR to be higher than payed interest of loan

You get more loans so higher wr, so you want more bnk so you get a loan etc... it keeps building itself up!

Of course but first I think the forst shoot will be with Cards which will show us the power of the WR

Well they are being printed now. So we will know soon!

Last year we had +65.000 active cards...which could shoot the WR at a decent amount...and so if now we get may be 90.000 users asking for cards...and if everyone get two cards....that would be awsome...I have not read if one participant in ICO can get bith cards? I only know I can get one the Spectrocoin one...but may be we will also able to get both?

Card numbers will be much higher next time. Remember many are waiting on their free card.

Not sure what the number will be bur over 65.000cards for sure and if se hit as I expectsomething like 90.000 cards that will put us already in orbit and people really start using their cards as before with SC that would be awsome in terms of WR
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August 11, 2019, 06:27:37 PM
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Just imagine they would start loans on bnk with keeping your wr!

Tgat wpuld be awsome...paying.the loan at reduce fee and getting the WR ... but the system to be good needs WR to be higher than payed interest of loan

You get more loans so higher wr, so you want more bnk so you get a loan etc... it keeps building itself up!

Of course but first I think the forst shoot will be with Cards which will show us the power of the WR

Well they are being printed now. So we will know soon!


Last year we had +65.000 active cards...which could shoot the WR at a decent amount...and so if now we get may be 90.000 users asking for cards...and if everyone get two cards....that would be awsome...I have not read if one participant in ICO can get bith cards? I only know I can get one the Spectrocoin one...but may be we will also able to get both?

Card numbers will be much higher next time. Remember many are waiting on their free card.

Not sure what the number will be bur over 65.000cards for sure and if se hit as I expectsomething like 90.000 cards that will put us already in orbit and people really start using their cards as before with SC that would be awsome in terms of WR

I wanna be realistic in here. I think those numbers can be reality by first half of 2020 IF we get the cards before end of year. So we have to be patient a bit more.
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August 11, 2019, 06:27:44 PM
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A very important thing to remember is also that WR is paid in ETH so mot only we have the chance to see WR rise if Cards active again and loand and other products working...but also if ETH sees a bullrun this is a double boost rocket that can push us longer
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August 11, 2019, 06:32:05 PM
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Just imagine they would start loans on bnk with keeping your wr!

Tgat wpuld be awsome...paying.the loan at reduce fee and getting the WR ... but the system to be good needs WR to be higher than payed interest of loan

You get more loans so higher wr, so you want more bnk so you get a loan etc... it keeps building itself up!

Of course but first I think the forst shoot will be with Cards which will show us the power of the WR

Well they are being printed now. So we will know soon!


Last year we had +65.000 active cards...which could shoot the WR at a decent amount...and so if now we get may be 90.000 users asking for cards...and if everyone get two cards....that would be awsome...I have not read if one participant in ICO can get bith cards? I only know I can get one the Spectrocoin one...but may be we will also able to get both?

Card numbers will be much higher next time. Remember many are waiting on their free card.

Not sure what the number will be bur over 65.000cards for sure and if se hit as I expectsomething like 90.000 cards that will put us already in orbit and people really start using their cards as before with SC that would be awsome in terms of WR

I wanna be realistic in here. I think those numbers can be reality by first half of 2020. So we have to be patient a bit more.

I have to disagree here, as they had 65.000 Cards beforr the end iof ICO and before Visa issues now after ICO and 01 M SC users ( even if not active that's a huge number of possible clients)
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A very important thing to remember is also that WR is paid in ETH so mot only we have the chance to see WR rise if Cards active again and loand and other products working...but also if ETH sees a bullrun this is a double boost rocket that can push us longer

Yeah. I am actually thinking to accumulate my ETH and take a loan from the WR. They made it so simple to use the utility for another utility haha. Deposit my ETH to Bankera Loans and basically I had it all for free. Then whilst I am paying back my loan I am also getting more ETH each week. Genius, I know haha
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Just imagine they would start loans on bnk with keeping your wr!

Tgat wpuld be awsome...paying.the loan at reduce fee and getting the WR ... but the system to be good needs WR to be higher than payed interest of loan

You get more loans so higher wr, so you want more bnk so you get a loan etc... it keeps building itself up!

Of course but first I think the forst shoot will be with Cards which will show us the power of the WR

Well they are being printed now. So we will know soon!


Last year we had +65.000 active cards...which could shoot the WR at a decent amount...and so if now we get may be 90.000 users asking for cards...and if everyone get two cards....that would be awsome...I have not read if one participant in ICO can get bith cards? I only know I can get one the Spectrocoin one...but may be we will also able to get both?

Card numbers will be much higher next time. Remember many are waiting on their free card.

Not sure what the number will be bur over 65.000cards for sure and if se hit as I expectsomething like 90.000 cards that will put us already in orbit and people really start using their cards as before with SC that would be awsome in terms of WR

I wanna be realistic in here. I think those numbers can be reality by first half of 2020. So we have to be patient a bit more.

I have to disagree here, as they had 65.000 Cards beforr the end iof ICO and before Visa issues now after ICO and 01 M SC users ( even if not active that's a huge number of possible clients)

Well, yeah I forgot to take into account the number of SC users have significantly increased since 2017.. If I take it into account, hopefully by 1st quarter 2020 we will get great numbers. I guess all depends also on when they will go out. Crossing my fingers to go live before the end of 2019.
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August 11, 2019, 07:12:44 PM
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Are there any non-newbies or Jr Members in this thread that actually like this coin? Seems to be only a bunch of stooge accounts all woken up around the same time and then angry investors who feel duped. I'd like to hear from a legitimate token holder.
Come, come I gave you a reasoned reply and your come back is that you want to hear from a 'legitimate' token holder. Really? That's childish and, what's worse, illogical.

It's simple:
Owning BNK makes someone a legitimate token holder.
Making posts here has no effect on legitimacy.
The two concepts are separate.

Admit it, you have heard from several, legitimate token holders.
The fact that you don't like to hear what they are telling you is your problem.
And the fact those token holders are not persuaded by your attempts to browbeat them is your problem too.
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August 11, 2019, 11:07:11 PM
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This project looks promising but i can't seem to find it's whitepaper and do you guys plan on starting any airdrop or bounty project.

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Bankera thread can be included in this list of threads that are using paid shills and bumping services.


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August 12, 2019, 06:48:07 AM
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Good Morning into a new week of the bankera project:

Once again here some reliable Information:

Just last week we had the opportunity to talk to the CEO in the official Bankera Chat: https://chat.bankera.com/channel/community

Do you have some more questions? Put them in here!! :-)


Here some questions from community: 

Are we getting soon Fiat gate to crypto in exchange?
We have been told cards are being printed and could be delivered before end of the year vould clarify which ones? The SC cards? Bankera ones? Or third provider?
Why do we need SC cards and Bankera Cards? I mean why distinct?
New cards will have same restrictions as linked cards? As for example I cannot use card with SC as linked card due to my nationality..
What about Pervesk is it going to offer more services than IBAN?



Here the answers from the CEO

Yes, we have it in plans, but I will not lie, we are not currently working for it, but that's in the horizon. SC cards will be by third party provider and yes they are in process of being printed, Bankera cards are also in process to be issued by Pervesk. Firstly, Bankera and SpectroCoin are distinct products due to regulator and clarity, SC will focus on crypto -> fiat link, while Bankera is on track to be a neobank, I believe once regulatory climate will change we will merge everything in one peace, but for now as we said, we see it as a puzzle. Secondly, we have distinct solutions to leverage the risk of one program being shut down or so, so we would be able to offer the service anyhow. Linked cards are provided by another third party and the limitation is due to their policies, this does not have impact for issued cards constrains (well, I will not lie, SC cards will be for EEA first, but that's why we are building our own infrastructure with Pervesk etc to outgrow these limitations). Pervesk will be offering cards both issuing of cards as well as letting to accept cards as payments, also it will offer other payments methods, it is an engine behind a number of features.

Also here a summary of real Information for the Project:

Regarding all the story related to UAB Pervesk, Spectrocoin, Lithuanian Bank and FNTT, long story short:

1) Lithuanian Bank has checked UAB Pervesk (partnership with Bankera, belongs to the same owners, has an Electronic Mony license in Lithuania with a right to operate in all European Union Member States), FNTT  (lit. - Finansinių Nusikaltimų Tyrimo Tarnyba - special Lithuanian criminal investigation body for the investigation of the financial crimes and all related) also participated in this audit.

use google translate (Verslo Žinios in Lithuania is the same as Financial Times for the rest of the world - the most credible resource):
https://www.vz.lt/rinkos/2018/09/21/mokejimu-istaigai-ir-jos-vadovui--12-mln-eur-baudu

2) all the story is about KYC regulations - Know Your Client it is connected to AML (Anti Money Laundering), policies the Finantial institutions (UAB Pervesk in this case) has to implement to prevent crimes, basically to collect a relevant data from your Clients related to the source of the money. This audit had nothing to do with a scam or something like that!!!!!

3) One more time - the story with fines and FNTT is only related to KYC procedures!! Only!!!

4) Vilnius regional administrative court has lifted All the fines from UAB Pervesk and it`s CEO!!

read an 12-06-2019 article about that in Verslo Žinios (google translate will help):
https://www.vz.lt/rinkos/2019/06/12/teismas-panaikino-baudas-bankeros-ikurejui-ir-susijusiai-imonei

and our Lithuanian second biggest news website 15min:
https://www.15min.lt/verslas/naujiena/bendroves/teismas-panaikino-pervesk-ir-jos-vadovui-skirtas-baudas-663-1158840


5) AND FINALLY - LITHUANIAN CENTRAL BANK HAS ANNOUNCED ITSELF THAT on 25-01-2019 IT HAS LIFTED ALL THE RESTRICTIONS AND UAB PERVESK HAS NO MORE KYC ISSUES!!!!
READ OFFICIAL LITHUANIAN BANK`S STATEMENT ON THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE!!!

https://www.lb.lt/lt/naujienos/lietuvos-banko-valdybos-nutarimai-140

Second section of the announcement, google translate will help to translate from Lithuanian.

Believe only official-governmental resources!!!!
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August 12, 2019, 08:03:20 AM
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This project looks promising but i can't seem to find it's whitepaper and do you guys plan on starting any airdrop or bounty project.

Good morning!

There are no airdrops at the moment, but there are different bounty programs:

SpectroCoin:

https://spectrocoin.com/en/referralURL.html
https://spectrocoin.com/en/bug-bounty.html
https://spectrocoin.com/en/earn-bitcoins.html

Bankera Exchange Bug Bounty:

https://exchange.bankera.com/bug-bounty

A note: I remember the managers of Bankera saying soon Bankera Exchange referral program will start, so you may stay tuned on their social media or blog: blog.bankera.com
And of course you can join us at chat.bankera.com and chat with admins and us as well live.

In terms of the whitepaper, the updated one is their actual website as we have been informed by management. Bankera.com represents Bankera milestones and what is coming - there are no time frames yet, but they usually announce the time frames separately for each product on their social media.
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