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Author Topic: [ANN]Spectrecoin[XSPEC] TOR+OBFS4, Ring Sig, Stealth!  (Read 94874 times)
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February 08, 2018, 12:41:44 PM
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....I get the incentive part, and it is normal to work this way, but the way it is described is misleading. When you say 5% interest for staking, I think about 5%, not 10%-20%.

Just think of the "extra" if/when they happen...as an "airdrop"  Grin

Can we move on from this staking business?


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February 08, 2018, 12:46:18 PM
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Great project! I have seen this on several youtube channels that shared about this project. Very promising and much needed Smiley

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February 08, 2018, 09:12:20 PM
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If you think the reward is too high, then thanks, your point was made, it will not change soon. Many people complained that it is too low for their staking to be profitable. Just different points of view.

Of course it is just about different points of view.

What I want to say is I think a low inflation in the long term is more beneficial to everyone, including both stakers and non-stakers because it creates more demand from investors that results in a higher price.

If the staking reward is too high, a lot of people will be put off by the high inflation.

Take Monero for example, which has a tail emission that results in a perpetual inflation starting with 0.87% and dropping a little every year.
Even Bitcoin's current inflation is below 5% and will just go down from here.

While Monero and Bitcoin miners receive less coins for their work as compared to a higher emission rate, the value of their rewards is higher because the coins are worth more. One of the reasons the coins are worth more is because inflation is low.

Coins with double digit inflation are considered shitcoins for a reason, because it is a bad investment in the long term to simply hold such coins in a cold wallet.

Back to XSPEC's example, you said many people complained that the rewards are too low. Just consider the following example:
Case 1: 1000 coins being staked for one year at 15% reward = 150 new coins. If the coin is valued at $2 the staker earns $300.
Case 2: 1000 coins being staked for one year at 5% reward = 50 new coins. If the coin is valued at $10 the staker earns $500

In the above example, it is clearly shown that a lower reward in number of coins can have a higher value if the coin appreciates in value. In the second case, both stakers and cold storage holders are much better off than in the first case.

The question is, is there any direct correlation between inflation rate and coin value? I'd say it is a very big correlation, and a lower inflation rate can easily be offset by value appreciation resulting from higher demand for low-inflation coins.

Anyway, I don't say that 5% coin supply inflation is extremely high or a big problem, but I believe a lower inflation rate would serve the coin better in the long term, and everyone would be better off, from stakers to non-stakers.
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February 09, 2018, 07:09:59 AM
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I saw the v.1.3.6 of XSPEC wallet on the GitHub. Is it legit?
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February 09, 2018, 10:05:39 AM
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My Spectrewallet 1.3.5. is no more syncing - it hangs on syncing - anybody got a solution ?
Yesterday staking & syncing no problems - i got no error - but it hangs on syncing.
Same with me

Try in the debug console the command :

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rewindchain 1000

how long does the process gonna be ?
I'm about to delete and reinstall the wallet, maybe this will solve the problem

Problem not solved. Any other fix for that? I don´t have disqord.
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February 09, 2018, 10:33:20 AM
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I saw the v.1.3.6 of XSPEC wallet on the GitHub. Is it legit?

Yes. I think a windows release is still outstanding, but 1.3.6 is safe to use.

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February 09, 2018, 10:34:33 AM
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Problem not solved. Any other fix for that? I don´t have disqord.

Try making a new data directory.

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February 09, 2018, 10:41:25 AM
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Could you please provide a technical whitepaper for the Stealth Staking? Sounds really juicy, but I can not image how this should work?!?
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February 09, 2018, 10:44:52 AM
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Problem not solved. Any other fix for that? I don´t have disqord.

Try making a new data directory.

I have make a new "Data" Directory inside the Spectrecoin Directory - but it doesn't help :-/
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February 09, 2018, 10:56:01 AM
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I have make a new "Data" Directory inside the Spectrecoin Directory - but it doesn't help :-/

C'mon, you're a legendary member.  Tongue


Rename the Spectrecoin data directory, create a new one, and copy over your wallet.dat. Then start the wallet, so it will sync from scratch. If it is stuck, then probably your blockchain data got messed up.

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February 09, 2018, 11:00:47 AM
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Ok i have renamed the Direcctory and backuped the wallet.dat - started again spectre and on the startup i becoming this errorscreen : Timeout waiting for onion hostname

EDIT: Restarted the PC - now it works - Thank You Smiley
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February 09, 2018, 11:05:12 AM
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Ok i have renamed the Direcctory and backuped the wallet.dat - started again spectre and on the startup i becoming this errorscreen : Timeout waiting for onion hostname

Okay that's a different problem. You are mining for an .onion hostname in order to prevent sybil attacks. On some systems, the timeout is too short. Just restart your wallet, until a name is found.

Created an issue here: https://github.com/XSPECOfficial/spectre/issues/15

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February 09, 2018, 01:36:16 PM
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I have make a new "Data" Directory inside the Spectrecoin Directory - but it doesn't help :-/

C'mon, you're a legendary member.  Tongue


Rename the Spectrecoin data directory, create a new one, and copy over your wallet.dat. Then start the wallet, so it will sync from scratch. If it is stuck, then probably your blockchain data got messed up.
Thanks, I had exactly the same problem and now it works for me. Seems like you are involved into this project. Do you know anything about how Stealth Staking will be implemented?
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February 09, 2018, 02:01:55 PM
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Thanks, I had exactly the same problem and now it works for me. Seems like you are involved into this project. Do you know anything about how Stealth Staking will be implemented?

I'm just a long-time community member. The Stealth Staking mechanism is a secret for now, for the reasons someone named earlier.

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February 09, 2018, 04:14:08 PM
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Thanks, I had exactly the same problem and now it works for me. Seems like you are involved into this project. Do you know anything about how Stealth Staking will be implemented?

I'm just a long-time community member. The Stealth Staking mechanism is a secret for now, for the reasons someone named earlier.

All community member wait when xspec receive Stealth Staking and we believe that this will be happened. Sweet time for xspec Kiss holders  
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February 10, 2018, 07:39:03 AM
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Which is the current version for usage on MacOS? On the website it says coming soon on github 1.3.6 and 1.3.5 is available. It would be nice if users could rely on the website. Which is the current official version?
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February 10, 2018, 05:55:17 PM
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are there plans or discussions to reduce the staking fee? i think 5% is to high, cryptocoins and inflation arent big friends...
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February 11, 2018, 09:09:34 AM
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Which is the current version for usage on MacOS? On the website it says coming soon on github 1.3.6 and 1.3.5 is available. It would be nice if users could rely on the website. Which is the current official version?

You can use the version from either ... I'm not sure why JBG hasn't put it on the website yet.

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February 11, 2018, 09:14:00 AM
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Is there any description available about how that OBFS4 tech precisely works? Is that some anon tech that XSPEC uses specifically or are there other coins using that, too? And on your OP you say it's anonymous almost anywhere in the world so I assume it depends you can use it anonymously wherever TOR offers exit nodes or what's the limitation to fully global anonymity, if any?

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February 11, 2018, 09:17:18 AM
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are there plans or discussions to reduce the staking fee? i think 5% is to high, cryptocoins and inflation arent big friends...

https://github.com/bitcoinx2/spectre/wiki/FAQ#can-we-reduce--increase-the-staking-reward


Is there any description available about how that OBFS4 tech precisely works? Is that some anon tech that XSPEC uses specifically or are there other coins using that, too? And on your OP you say it's anonymous almost anywhere in the world so I assume it depends you can use it anonymously wherever TOR offers exit nodes or what's the limitation to fully global anonymity, if any?

You should read the wiki article: https://altcoinwiki.org/en/SpectreCoin

All of this is explained there, if there are any questions remaining, just ask! Smiley

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