primecore
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November 15, 2017, 07:37:04 AM |
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Soo from day.1 i was mining the coin, reading the ann posts.
IMHO this is the first real "test" for the community and we failed. People started talking about doing some stuff that was not in alliance with the whitepaper. You cant change stuff with wich you "bought" and got peoples interest. Halfing was put to a vote without really taking into account is it posible at the moment. Chill, take a few steps and realize the obvious. This is a really decentralized coin we can see that in various aspects of the development. It is 70 days old for God's sake, I see no real problems with functioning as it was. I would and i am guessing many others would like a little more "transparency" to what is really going on. Just a few lines a day would keep an investor calm.
To get to the c-cex point. If they give Anthony back the money and delist the coin it would be a dissaster for them. They would lose trust in future coinlist payers. I dont think that they would be open to keep a coin listed for 2 weeks and then delist it because the guy who paid 4 btc decided it hasnt paid off as he expected. It would be just a sharade. I dont thing c-cex will do it.
I didnt sell and i wont sell my btcz as i am sure many others wont and didnt. People got greedy and frustrated because they didnt get a wagon of money in 70 days. Get realistic. NO PREMINE, NO DEV FEE, NO ICO and the coin is doing GREAT with the hard work from the community and the steady stearing from the devs. I see no real problems.
Btcz is a strong coin with a very active community i really do think it will payoff in the "long" run. We just have to work together and have PATIENCE.
I woulnd be that much sad/happy/scared because a developer left...it happens we move on.
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webrats
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November 15, 2017, 08:07:54 AM |
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I don´t get it. The community voted, but the team is not willing to respect a decision ?, isn´t this a community projec ? or is community just to beg for funds all day and show the middle finger when we ask???. I´m sorry for my donations and mining this things honestly.
And then, it happends the guy that codes the wallet (That´s the only decent tech this thing have), who happends is also this Anthony guy that puts his own 4 bitcoin for exchange listing, is leaving the project and closing the wallet for something new?? i´m out 2, pity for my looses and leason learner.
You nailed it.
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trung12ly
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November 15, 2017, 08:42:45 AM |
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Yeh one dev is leaving to start his own coin and we wish him well,good luck Anthony! Unfortunately he is closing down his wallet but BitcoinZ will move on and become stronger,there will be no changes and everything will stay same for good or bad but let’s stay strong and support BitcoinZ
Thanks for support! We believe in decentralization. No one is central bank here. If you change consensus you end up with new coin. say MyBitcoinZ wallet, will be closed? on which purse is it safe to store coins? BitcoinZ Wallet 1.1.0-1.2? but there is a warning that this is also not safe! where to store coins? All you need is store your private key in a safe place, nothing else, no body can make coins in your wallet disappear w/o PK!
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Indi27
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November 15, 2017, 08:56:46 AM |
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Do not understand. Anthony leaves the coin. All right, though we owe him a lot. He put in 4BTC. It was his own decision. Why would anyone want to repay this? We have voted the necessary changes, so why not do it? What's the White Paper? Scripture? If the community wants to change, we need to change it. Without the right funds, development will be slow, and no one is interested in it. There needs to be a major development fund for the developers, and they spend it cleanly and transparently after official polls. What's so hard on this? Do not do this. There is no need for the whole community to say that donation is donation donation. Let's put system, permanent, automated donations, even if we did not start this way. Everyone would return in the near future. Let the forum talk about what we spend for example 500 000 BTCz per week. Why do we stick to the White Paper? If you transparently, fraudulently vote for whatever the community is, whatever is in the White Paper. Be that what the community wants. Always!
Do not be amateurs to do this once and then to the opposite. Collect money for developers they spend on the votes based on meaningful things, transparently. At this point, growth would be quick, donations would come back to the donator for the rise in exchange rates.
It would be necessary for our developers to release a joint statement that what we are going to do now and eliminate it is that there is no clear path. It would be good if they were always talking together. You would sign all the major devs for all the statements, and then we just need to vote on what to go for the money.
Funding should be raise to a higher level because it will be slow. Voting is enough for 3 days, so much time for those who want to vote, unnecessarily slow down development.
Need to increase automatic donation! This is the most important. Too much energy is time to collect money. It's in everyone's interest.
I would like to ask for a substantive answer to what has been said.
Come on, guys, do not waste much work so far! If you do, BTCZ can go to the moon!
Sorry for my english, google is also developing!
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elessil
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November 15, 2017, 09:00:30 AM |
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This is decentralized development coin. That's why we can have similar situations now and in the future It is additional risk. Satoshi technology guarantees consistency here - original chain will always be active.
bitconz-pod team supports only original chain with core principles and immutability as the core value. Original chain will never be obsolete. BTCZ is fully decentralized, any dev resistant and no one can stop original chain. Any change to consensus automatically creates new coin / hardfork.
Good luck with your new coin. You already have new github. It would be better to rebrand new chain to different name, ticker and new ann thread to not mislead investors. We can end up with two different philosophy chains similar to ZCL / ZEN. There is no problem when you just rebrand new chain and add reply protection or just start from scratch - community coin with dev tax + voting may be needed on the market. Then direct competition / similar coins will be DASH or ZEN not BTC.
BitconZ will never: - change supply & halving periods - always x1000 bitcoin = 21 000 000 000 (12500 coins per block halving every 4 years) - add any tax - similar to bitcoin every tax is banned - add masternodes / secure nodes - always all coins goes to miners - pools by default provide infrastructure nodes BitcoinZ devs & contributors are always volunteers.
BitcoinZ is focused on organic growth. New exchanges may appear in long time. Dont expect huge gains in short time.
New coin updates are automatically merged from zcash / bitcoin core repos. There is no need to add dev tax as BitcoinZ coin core will always have the same features like zcash / bitcoin. Merge is simple operation and doesn't require any dev fee.
Ok, Everyone withdraw their coins from MyBitcoinZ, as the server will but shut down on Nov 28th. -hellomoto Rly?
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dtr
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November 15, 2017, 09:04:31 AM |
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I just successfully transferred evrthng from mybtcz wallet to core one. Not gonna sell, gonna hodl.
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Indi27
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November 15, 2017, 09:06:54 AM |
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If there will be a normal development fund, will be new Anthonys as well-
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November 15, 2017, 09:07:52 AM |
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i have problem with synchonizing bitcoinz wallet. is stuck az 0,02%. any help what to do? and all the time bitdefender put file in the quarante. i put the exclusion, but no help...damm so pissed off about that.
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anilmaddala
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November 15, 2017, 09:08:48 AM |
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anything on the Android Wallet? Is the support going to be continued?
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911tt
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November 15, 2017, 09:09:35 AM |
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How to get private key? I use only android wallet and i have only security phrase
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petmalulodi078
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November 15, 2017, 09:20:50 AM |
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airdrop or any bounty dev?
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bitcoinz-pod (OP)
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November 15, 2017, 09:31:35 AM |
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Miners - please support pools which support project Pools with donations to the project
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BitcoinZ - In Decentralization We Trust
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November 15, 2017, 09:43:33 AM |
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if 2.5 min block time than than supply i btc x1000 and growth faster i 4x time? sry but it's really doge 2.0 (((
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November 15, 2017, 09:48:49 AM |
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Yeh one dev is leaving to start his own coin and we wish him well,good luck Anthony! Unfortunately he is closing down his wallet but BitcoinZ will move on and become stronger,there will be no changes and everything will stay same for good or bad but let’s stay strong and support BitcoinZ
Sometimes separation like this is a positive thing for a project especially when the members have different visions for the project's progress. That happens also at the early stage of Facebook but look at Facebook today. Obviously, Anthony meant good for BTCZ but paying 4BTC to list on C-CEX was a bad decision and a total failure. I wish him luck.
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crypt0r3x
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November 15, 2017, 09:50:06 AM |
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Miners - please support pools which support project Pools with donations to the project
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Stealth8368
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November 15, 2017, 09:50:55 AM |
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Yeh one dev is leaving to start his own coin and we wish him well,good luck Anthony! Unfortunately he is closing down his wallet but BitcoinZ will move on and become stronger,there will be no changes and everything will stay same for good or bad but let’s stay strong and support BitcoinZ
Will he start completely new over or will he become a direct competitor of BitcoinZ? No Anthony stated he is working on a new coin and will not fork BitcoinZ,now you might ask why is our dev working on a new project while still part of our team? He did great work for us here but means nothing if he takes it all back,I’m not selling let the weak hands dump for pennies and follow Anthony out the door,long live BitcoinZ
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Stealth8368
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November 15, 2017, 09:54:05 AM |
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Yeh one dev is leaving to start his own coin and we wish him well,good luck Anthony! Unfortunately he is closing down his wallet but BitcoinZ will move on and become stronger,there will be no changes and everything will stay same for good or bad but let’s stay strong and support BitcoinZ
Sometimes separation like this is a positive thing for a project especially when the members have different visions for the project's progress. That happens also at the early stage of Facebook but look at Facebook today. Obviously, Anthony meant good for BTCZ but paying 4BTC to list on C-CEX was a bad decision and a total failure. I wish him luck. Great point C-CEX did more harm than good for our coin,if we come together and raise funds we can get listed on better exchange
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anilmaddala
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November 15, 2017, 10:15:55 AM |
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I am on an Android wallet, how do I secure my BitcoinZ?
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