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Author Topic: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - Low Fees, 100% Community, POW-Equihash No-Premine No-Tax  (Read 343644 times)
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November 19, 2017, 01:20:31 PM
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Waiting for next pumps from whales and miners. It might be good time for time for switching rigs back to Bitcoin Z
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoinz/
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November 19, 2017, 01:46:18 PM
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Don't forget to vote!!!

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November 19, 2017, 01:47:48 PM
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To BTCz community

did you know guys, that some countries in Africa are going through crazy inflation with their Fiat money, and people there started using alt coins to avoid that?  We could try a direct marketing in Africa... because BTCz is very cheep now , and markets could emerge from there . We have to start thinking out of the BTC traditional world. If we are going to be great, we have to be where land is still fresh to seed.

Do we have any Central/South Africa representative.
Any user from there is following this forum



If not, lets found someone. Learn the communication channels, and spread the word (also, get new devs. from there)
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November 19, 2017, 01:59:47 PM
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Guys, you really need to be present on more exchanges and increase your marketing presence if you want this coin to move forward.
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November 19, 2017, 02:00:05 PM
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The voting is broken. When you vote, the number increments but when you refresh the page, it goes back to 11.

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November 19, 2017, 02:04:12 PM
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I will keep mining on Suprnova. When the donation website is online I will think of my contribution.
Here is the pool with the supporting project https://pool.miningspeed.com, it works well, an honest pool, more profitable than suprnova.cc by 7-15%, crediting to the wallet after 100 confirmations - about 4.5 hours

hi, how do you calculated that you earn 7-15% more? this is just assuption or did you test it? becouse as i understand, it shoud all pool give you the same ammount of coin, different is only a % of fee they have (that is in theory on long run), ofcoure if pool do not steal in the behind. differend is laso paying mathod and bigger pool,less share, more time payments and smaller pools, less payments , but bigger one. and in the and it should be equal right?

i was happy with suprnova, mostly i get more or it looks more. I moved only becouse of community donation. if suprnova had that, i would never leave. most people like to have trusted pool and new pool has to gain trust and it takes time, that miner moved.

i will really like, that you explain your better % gain in that pool vs. suprnova pool. thx



10/29/2017 tested Suprnova 1 * gtx1060 - 320sol / s, 19 hours 30 minutes of operation 131 BTCZ = 6.71 BTCZ per hour.
At the same time, 1 * 1070 - 460sol / s on the miningspeed pool 208 BTCZ = 10.66 BTCZ per hour, which is approximately 10.66 * (320/460) = 7.41 BTCZ per hour 320sol / s.
7.41 / (6.71 / 100) = 110.43%
This is of course a very rough test and counting. In September, I noticed the same thing with ZEN, compared with flypool. Of course, all this depends on the specific situation on the network, but two such tests forced to draw such a conclusion.
In addition, I do not like that Suprnova does not either fight with the possibility of 51% precedent ..., for many new coins they have more than 51% capacity. I think that people working with a blockchain should take care of the network with which they work.
Sorry for my english (translate.google.com)


thanks to share that. becouse you point that, i make aslo a test. i started yesterday at the morning (my time 9.00) and still i have the same settings, so temporary is more then around 30 hours passed.

2 rigs, one is 25% stronger. same cards,same settings, same components.

in suprnova i made in last 24 hours 3824 btcz coins

in minning speed in last 24 up to there stats is 1950 coins ( i am not sure what is calculates in to 24 huors, but i assumu that last confirmate transaction).

so there is almost 50 % different in favor of supprnova, so if i compare rigs and include 25% stronger rig, i get on suprnova 25% more coins... which is amost to much, but i am queston myself why most of peeople want to mine on suprnova and not to others pool, that have less fee, they support coins...maybe is something on the pools... any paymenst. i do not care if i get in 6 hours letter, but i do care, if i get less then on other pools.
i will leave that for another day, to see if there will be the same. i will report tommorow evenning.


as i understand, it should be the same, just different is a pay time, less time, more payment and more time less payment, but bigger. so...but not so sure anymore

i am really confuesed now :S
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November 19, 2017, 02:08:12 PM
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The voting is broken. When you vote, the number increments but when you refresh the page, it goes back to 11.

true. i was voting in the morning, but still is the same number,11.
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November 19, 2017, 02:25:56 PM
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I will keep mining on Suprnova. When the donation website is online I will think of my contribution.
Here is the pool with the supporting project https://pool.miningspeed.com, it works well, an honest pool, more profitable than suprnova.cc by 7-15%, crediting to the wallet after 100 confirmations - about 4.5 hours

hi, how do you calculated that you earn 7-15% more? this is just assuption or did you test it? becouse as i understand, it shoud all pool give you the same ammount of coin, different is only a % of fee they have (that is in theory on long run), ofcoure if pool do not steal in the behind. differend is laso paying mathod and bigger pool,less share, more time payments and smaller pools, less payments , but bigger one. and in the and it should be equal right?

i was happy with suprnova, mostly i get more or it looks more. I moved only becouse of community donation. if suprnova had that, i would never leave. most people like to have trusted pool and new pool has to gain trust and it takes time, that miner moved.

i will really like, that you explain your better % gain in that pool vs. suprnova pool. thx



10/29/2017 tested Suprnova 1 * gtx1060 - 320sol / s, 19 hours 30 minutes of operation 131 BTCZ = 6.71 BTCZ per hour.
At the same time, 1 * 1070 - 460sol / s on the miningspeed pool 208 BTCZ = 10.66 BTCZ per hour, which is approximately 10.66 * (320/460) = 7.41 BTCZ per hour 320sol / s.
7.41 / (6.71 / 100) = 110.43%
This is of course a very rough test and counting. In September, I noticed the same thing with ZEN, compared with flypool. Of course, all this depends on the specific situation on the network, but two such tests forced to draw such a conclusion.
In addition, I do not like that Suprnova does not either fight with the possibility of 51% precedent ..., for many new coins they have more than 51% capacity. I think that people working with a blockchain should take care of the network with which they work.
Sorry for my english (translate.google.com)


thanks to share that. becouse you point that, i make aslo a test. i started yesterday at the morning (my time 9.00) and still i have the same settings, so temporary is more then around 30 hours passed.

2 rigs, one is 25% stronger. same cards,same settings, same components.

in suprnova i made in last 24 hours 3824 btcz coins

in minning speed in last 24 up to there stats is 1950 coins ( i am not sure what is calculates in to 24 huors, but i assumu that last confirmate transaction).

so there is almost 50 % different in favor of supprnova, so if i compare rigs and include 25% stronger rig, i get on suprnova 25% more coins... which is amost to much, but i am queston myself why most of peeople want to mine on suprnova and not to others pool, that have less fee, they support coins...maybe is something on the pools... any paymenst. i do not care if i get in 6 hours letter, but i do care, if i get less then on other pools.
i will leave that for another day, to see if there will be the same. i will report tommorow evenning.


as i understand, it should be the same, just different is a pay time, less time, more payment and more time less payment, but bigger. so...but not so sure anymore

i am really confuesed now :S

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MjdFY4oatkKQY9DPKuxxep-a9JVzQmmrOFKtzxBWbaQ has a list of pools that support the BTCZ community

Please, everyone -- stop mining on suprnova until they donate. Look at it this way... Mining on a pool that donates helps the coin increase in value. By mining on a pool that doesn't donate, you're contributing to keeping the price low and feeding the big pool's wallet.

Small pools find much less blocks but you make more coins per block. All pools have lucky streaks and unlucky streaks. 24 hours isn't enough to judge a pool. You really need to mine it for 7-30 days to get a much more accurate gauge for how much profit difference is before making a decision on which is better.

So please, choose a pool on https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MjdFY4oatkKQY9DPKuxxep-a9JVzQmmrOFKtzxBWbaQ/ for mining!!!

Join our mining pool! https://equipool.1ds.us for equihash and https://cryptopool.1ds.us for other altcoins
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November 19, 2017, 02:28:53 PM
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As a case in point, check out the number of shares for each block on https://equipool.1ds.us/payments

Some blocks were found very fast, needing only 3375 shares. Other blocks take more time, 195339 shares or more. This is why 24 hours isn't enough. You really need more data to make an accurate determination on whether a pool pays well or not.

Join our mining pool! https://equipool.1ds.us for equihash and https://cryptopool.1ds.us for other altcoins
Our EquiMiner for Windows makes switching between coins and mining software a breeze! https://equipool.1ds.us/getting_started
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November 19, 2017, 02:37:07 PM
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I will keep mining on Suprnova. When the donation website is online I will think of my contribution.
Here is the pool with the supporting project https://pool.miningspeed.com, it works well, an honest pool, more profitable than suprnova.cc by 7-15%, crediting to the wallet after 100 confirmations - about 4.5 hours

hi, how do you calculated that you earn 7-15% more? this is just assuption or did you test it? becouse as i understand, it shoud all pool give you the same ammount of coin, different is only a % of fee they have (that is in theory on long run), ofcoure if pool do not steal in the behind. differend is laso paying mathod and bigger pool,less share, more time payments and smaller pools, less payments , but bigger one. and in the and it should be equal right?

i was happy with suprnova, mostly i get more or it looks more. I moved only becouse of community donation. if suprnova had that, i would never leave. most people like to have trusted pool and new pool has to gain trust and it takes time, that miner moved.

i will really like, that you explain your better % gain in that pool vs. suprnova pool. thx



10/29/2017 tested Suprnova 1 * gtx1060 - 320sol / s, 19 hours 30 minutes of operation 131 BTCZ = 6.71 BTCZ per hour.
At the same time, 1 * 1070 - 460sol / s on the miningspeed pool 208 BTCZ = 10.66 BTCZ per hour, which is approximately 10.66 * (320/460) = 7.41 BTCZ per hour 320sol / s.
7.41 / (6.71 / 100) = 110.43%
This is of course a very rough test and counting. In September, I noticed the same thing with ZEN, compared with flypool. Of course, all this depends on the specific situation on the network, but two such tests forced to draw such a conclusion.
In addition, I do not like that Suprnova does not either fight with the possibility of 51% precedent ..., for many new coins they have more than 51% capacity. I think that people working with a blockchain should take care of the network with which they work.
Sorry for my english (translate.google.com)


thanks to share that. becouse you point that, i make aslo a test. i started yesterday at the morning (my time 9.00) and still i have the same settings, so temporary is more then around 30 hours passed.

2 rigs, one is 25% stronger. same cards,same settings, same components.

in suprnova i made in last 24 hours 3824 btcz coins

in minning speed in last 24 up to there stats is 1950 coins ( i am not sure what is calculates in to 24 huors, but i assumu that last confirmate transaction).

so there is almost 50 % different in favor of supprnova, so if i compare rigs and include 25% stronger rig, i get on suprnova 25% more coins... which is amost to much, but i am queston myself why most of peeople want to mine on suprnova and not to others pool, that have less fee, they support coins...maybe is something on the pools... any paymenst. i do not care if i get in 6 hours letter, but i do care, if i get less then on other pools.
i will leave that for another day, to see if there will be the same. i will report tommorow evenning.


as i understand, it should be the same, just different is a pay time, less time, more payment and more time less payment, but bigger. so...but not so sure anymore

i am really confuesed now :S

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MjdFY4oatkKQY9DPKuxxep-a9JVzQmmrOFKtzxBWbaQ has a list of pools that support the BTCZ community

Please, everyone -- stop mining on suprnova until they donate. Look at it this way... Mining on a pool that donates helps the coin increase in value. By mining on a pool that doesn't donate, you're contributing to keeping the price low and feeding the big pool's wallet.

Small pools find much less blocks but you make more coins per block. All pools have lucky streaks and unlucky streaks. 24 hours isn't enough to judge a pool. You really need to mine it for 7-30 days to get a much more accurate gauge for how much profit difference is before making a decision on which is better.

So please, choose a pool on https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MjdFY4oatkKQY9DPKuxxep-a9JVzQmmrOFKtzxBWbaQ/ for mining!!!

In addition, now on the suprnova more than 50% of the network capacity, it is dangerous for the coin!!!
Pool Hash: 3,557.70 kSol/s
Net Hash: 4,208.06 kSol/s
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November 19, 2017, 02:54:04 PM
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I will keep mining on Suprnova. When the donation website is online I will think of my contribution.
Here is the pool with the supporting project https://pool.miningspeed.com, it works well, an honest pool, more profitable than suprnova.cc by 7-15%, crediting to the wallet after 100 confirmations - about 4.5 hours

hi, how do you calculated that you earn 7-15% more? this is just assuption or did you test it? becouse as i understand, it shoud all pool give you the same ammount of coin, different is only a % of fee they have (that is in theory on long run), ofcoure if pool do not steal in the behind. differend is laso paying mathod and bigger pool,less share, more time payments and smaller pools, less payments , but bigger one. and in the and it should be equal right?

i was happy with suprnova, mostly i get more or it looks more. I moved only becouse of community donation. if suprnova had that, i would never leave. most people like to have trusted pool and new pool has to gain trust and it takes time, that miner moved.

i will really like, that you explain your better % gain in that pool vs. suprnova pool. thx



10/29/2017 tested Suprnova 1 * gtx1060 - 320sol / s, 19 hours 30 minutes of operation 131 BTCZ = 6.71 BTCZ per hour.
At the same time, 1 * 1070 - 460sol / s on the miningspeed pool 208 BTCZ = 10.66 BTCZ per hour, which is approximately 10.66 * (320/460) = 7.41 BTCZ per hour 320sol / s.
7.41 / (6.71 / 100) = 110.43%
This is of course a very rough test and counting. In September, I noticed the same thing with ZEN, compared with flypool. Of course, all this depends on the specific situation on the network, but two such tests forced to draw such a conclusion.
In addition, I do not like that Suprnova does not either fight with the possibility of 51% precedent ..., for many new coins they have more than 51% capacity. I think that people working with a blockchain should take care of the network with which they work.
Sorry for my english (translate.google.com)


thanks to share that. becouse you point that, i make aslo a test. i started yesterday at the morning (my time 9.00) and still i have the same settings, so temporary is more then around 30 hours passed.

2 rigs, one is 25% stronger. same cards,same settings, same components.

in suprnova i made in last 24 hours 3824 btcz coins

in minning speed in last 24 up to there stats is 1950 coins ( i am not sure what is calculates in to 24 huors, but i assumu that last confirmate transaction).

so there is almost 50 % different in favor of supprnova, so if i compare rigs and include 25% stronger rig, i get on suprnova 25% more coins... which is amost to much, but i am queston myself why most of peeople want to mine on suprnova and not to others pool, that have less fee, they support coins...maybe is something on the pools... any paymenst. i do not care if i get in 6 hours letter, but i do care, if i get less then on other pools.
i will leave that for another day, to see if there will be the same. i will report tommorow evenning.


as i understand, it should be the same, just different is a pay time, less time, more payment and more time less payment, but bigger. so...but not so sure anymore

i am really confuesed now :S

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MjdFY4oatkKQY9DPKuxxep-a9JVzQmmrOFKtzxBWbaQ has a list of pools that support the BTCZ community

Please, everyone -- stop mining on suprnova until they donate. Look at it this way... Mining on a pool that donates helps the coin increase in value. By mining on a pool that doesn't donate, you're contributing to keeping the price low and feeding the big pool's wallet.

Small pools find much less blocks but you make more coins per block. All pools have lucky streaks and unlucky streaks. 24 hours isn't enough to judge a pool. You really need to mine it for 7-30 days to get a much more accurate gauge for how much profit difference is before making a decision on which is better.

So please, choose a pool on https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MjdFY4oatkKQY9DPKuxxep-a9JVzQmmrOFKtzxBWbaQ/ for mining!!!

you did not get the point. all my rigs are on pool,whih are donating. but i was assuming, that i get less then i should, and before me,said,that we get more on minning speed then on suprnova. i have oposote feeling. i will cheak it. but le to be clear. i do not care abut pools which donate, if in the end i get less than i should. i will rather mine where i get more, and donate manualy. defenently  i will ldonate, becouse i do believe in the project and i know that we need to raise comunnity money. so...there was just compar two of the pools...

i will wait another 24 hours. and let give a feedback. i would really like to see, that is the same....
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November 19, 2017, 02:55:49 PM
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I will keep mining on Suprnova. When the donation website is online I will think of my contribution.
Here is the pool with the supporting project https://pool.miningspeed.com, it works well, an honest pool, more profitable than suprnova.cc by 7-15%, crediting to the wallet after 100 confirmations - about 4.5 hours

hi, how do you calculated that you earn 7-15% more? this is just assuption or did you test it? becouse as i understand, it shoud all pool give you the same ammount of coin, different is only a % of fee they have (that is in theory on long run), ofcoure if pool do not steal in the behind. differend is laso paying mathod and bigger pool,less share, more time payments and smaller pools, less payments , but bigger one. and in the and it should be equal right?

i was happy with suprnova, mostly i get more or it looks more. I moved only becouse of community donation. if suprnova had that, i would never leave. most people like to have trusted pool and new pool has to gain trust and it takes time, that miner moved.

i will really like, that you explain your better % gain in that pool vs. suprnova pool. thx



10/29/2017 tested Suprnova 1 * gtx1060 - 320sol / s, 19 hours 30 minutes of operation 131 BTCZ = 6.71 BTCZ per hour.
At the same time, 1 * 1070 - 460sol / s on the miningspeed pool 208 BTCZ = 10.66 BTCZ per hour, which is approximately 10.66 * (320/460) = 7.41 BTCZ per hour 320sol / s.
7.41 / (6.71 / 100) = 110.43%
This is of course a very rough test and counting. In September, I noticed the same thing with ZEN, compared with flypool. Of course, all this depends on the specific situation on the network, but two such tests forced to draw such a conclusion.
In addition, I do not like that Suprnova does not either fight with the possibility of 51% precedent ..., for many new coins they have more than 51% capacity. I think that people working with a blockchain should take care of the network with which they work.
Sorry for my english (translate.google.com)


thanks to share that. becouse you point that, i make aslo a test. i started yesterday at the morning (my time 9.00) and still i have the same settings, so temporary is more then around 30 hours passed.

2 rigs, one is 25% stronger. same cards,same settings, same components.

in suprnova i made in last 24 hours 3824 btcz coins

in minning speed in last 24 up to there stats is 1950 coins ( i am not sure what is calculates in to 24 huors, but i assumu that last confirmate transaction).

so there is almost 50 % different in favor of supprnova, so if i compare rigs and include 25% stronger rig, i get on suprnova 25% more coins... which is amost to much, but i am queston myself why most of peeople want to mine on suprnova and not to others pool, that have less fee, they support coins...maybe is something on the pools... any paymenst. i do not care if i get in 6 hours letter, but i do care, if i get less then on other pools.
i will leave that for another day, to see if there will be the same. i will report tommorow evenning.


as i understand, it should be the same, just different is a pay time, less time, more payment and more time less payment, but bigger. so...but not so sure anymore

i am really confuesed now :S

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MjdFY4oatkKQY9DPKuxxep-a9JVzQmmrOFKtzxBWbaQ has a list of pools that support the BTCZ community

Please, everyone -- stop mining on suprnova until they donate. Look at it this way... Mining on a pool that donates helps the coin increase in value. By mining on a pool that doesn't donate, you're contributing to keeping the price low and feeding the big pool's wallet.

Small pools find much less blocks but you make more coins per block. All pools have lucky streaks and unlucky streaks. 24 hours isn't enough to judge a pool. You really need to mine it for 7-30 days to get a much more accurate gauge for how much profit difference is before making a decision on which is better.

So please, choose a pool on https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MjdFY4oatkKQY9DPKuxxep-a9JVzQmmrOFKtzxBWbaQ/ for mining!!!

In addition, now on the suprnova more than 50% of the network capacity, it is dangerous for the coin!!!
Pool Hash: 3,557.70 kSol/s
Net Hash: 4,208.06 kSol/s

in theory, that is a big problems, i agree....but the practise from suprnova is good.so far..
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November 19, 2017, 02:56:31 PM
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As a case in point, check out the number of shares for each block on https://equipool.1ds.us/payments

Some blocks were found very fast, needing only 3375 shares. Other blocks take more time, 195339 shares or more. This is why 24 hours isn't enough. You really need more data to make an accurate determination on whether a pool pays well or not.

thanks to let me that. i will cheak it.
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November 19, 2017, 03:11:35 PM
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Mining on http://pool.bitcoinz.site

Everything was working fine, till today. No new blocks found, 0 immature, 0 balance, shares keep adding up.

What does this mean? Should I switch to a different pool?
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November 19, 2017, 03:13:55 PM
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Mining on http://pool.bitcoinz.site

Everything was working fine, till today. No new blocks found, 0 immature, 0 balance, shares keep adding up.

What does this mean? Should I switch to a different pool?

Someone was using a lot of hash power from Nicehash to promote the pool and now they've stopped. You'll still earn the same amount, just less frequent payments that are bigger.

Join our mining pool! https://equipool.1ds.us for equihash and https://cryptopool.1ds.us for other altcoins
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November 19, 2017, 03:14:46 PM
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So https://btczpool.com is not a donating pool?
Tell me so I can move from mining on this one.

thanks,

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November 19, 2017, 03:26:39 PM
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hi
What better than the other coins?
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November 19, 2017, 03:28:52 PM
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So https://btczpool.com is not a donating pool?
Tell me so I can move from mining on this one.

thanks,

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November 19, 2017, 03:30:44 PM
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did you know guys, that some countries in Africa are going through crazy inflation with their Fiat money, and people there started using alt coins to avoid that?  We could try a direct marketing in Africa... because BTCz is very cheep now , and markets could emerge from there . We have to start thinking out of the BTC traditional world. If we are going to be great, we have to be where land is still fresh to seed.

Do we have any Central/South Africa representative.
Any user from there is following this forum



If not, lets found someone. Learn the communication channels, and spread the word (also, get new devs. from there)

This is a good idea
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November 19, 2017, 03:31:51 PM
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BTCZ Windows wallet is not good
every body use windows wallet so The most important is windows wallet
After the changes in the development group, prices are decreasing day by day
This is disturbing
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