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Is there any other reason for a random cryptocurrency to make its name on the top of original Bitcoin than just parasitize on Bitcoin's brand? I can't see similarities between BitcoinZ and Bitcoin, except the total supply. On the same note, I agree with the name of Bitcoin Cash - it is a true fork of bitcoin, uses the same technology, except block size and DAA and entitled all Bitcoin holders the exact amount in Bitcoin Cash. For ideological and usability reasons, I agree to call it Bcash as well. Please enlighten me how is BitcoinZ different from any other Equihash fork - be it ZenCash, Zclassic, Hush, Komodo, Bitcoin Gold, Minex? What makes it valuable?
I dont want to discuss about real value of those coins, but more and more coins launched with Equihash algorithm. At the point, at least they will give miners different options and spreah hashrates out a little bit from one coin to another. I completely agree with your opinion. Everyone has their own views and perceptions, so the miners can choose their own option. If you dont accept BTCZ, you can out. I think using bitcoin as part of the name is simply a ploy to appeal to the mindset of those who feel bitcoin is legitimate, and with so many crap coins floating around the inclusion of bitcoin in the name gives a false sense of security. I agree for those reasons, however, this project has a good set of fundamentals, is based on great technology, and a decent algo. I'm not a big fan of equihash due to the ridiculous power consumption, but its still a decent algo. I believe this coin has potential but definitely have a few doubts due to the ridiculously high amount of coins. 21 billion coins are just too much. Half that would have been plenty. However I'm mining it due to the high returns. I'm holding a percentage in case this project actually succeeds. But realistically I'd love to see anything succeed that's not bitcoin. I absolutely hate btc. Too slow, and tx too expensive, and definitely far too centralized. I'm expecting governments to start mining bitcoin soon so they can control it. Russia already trying to control crypto through their own cryptoruble. I'm all for anything that could possibly take market share from bitcoin by providing a superior service and experience and at the same time protect us from the threat of centralization and with it the threat of goverment centralization/control and manipulation.
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December 01, 2017, 08:18:12 PM |
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Is there any other reason for a random cryptocurrency to make its name on the top of original Bitcoin than just parasitize on Bitcoin's brand? I can't see similarities between BitcoinZ and Bitcoin, except the total supply. On the same note, I agree with the name of Bitcoin Cash - it is a true fork of bitcoin, uses the same technology, except block size and DAA and entitled all Bitcoin holders the exact amount in Bitcoin Cash. For ideological and usability reasons, I agree to call it Bcash as well. Please enlighten me how is BitcoinZ different from any other Equihash fork - be it ZenCash, Zclassic, Hush, Komodo, Bitcoin Gold, Minex? What makes it valuable?
I dont want to discuss about real value of those coins, but more and more coins launched with Equihash algorithm. At the point, at least they will give miners different options and spreah hashrates out a little bit from one coin to another. I completely agree with your opinion. Everyone has their own views and perceptions, so the miners can choose their own option. If you dont accept BTCZ, you can out. I think using bitcoin as part of the name is simply a ploy to appeal to the mindset of those who feel bitcoin is legitimate, and with so many crap coins floating around the inclusion of bitcoin in the name gives a false sense of security. I agree for those reasons, however, this project has a good set of fundamentals, is based on great technology, and a decent algo. I'm not a big fan of equihash due to the ridiculous power consumption, but its still a decent algo. I believe this coin has potential but definitely have a few doubts due to the ridiculously high amount of coins. 21 billion coins are just too much. Half that would have been plenty. However I'm mining it due to the high returns. I'm holding a percentage in case this project actually succeeds. But realistically I'd love to see anything succeed that's not bitcoin. I absolutely hate btc. Too slow, and tx too expensive, and definitely far too centralized. I'm expecting governments to start mining bitcoin soon so they can control it. Russia already trying to control crypto through their own cryptoruble. I'm all for anything that could possibly take market share from bitcoin by providing a superior service and experience and at the same time protect us from the threat of centralization and with it the threat of goverment centralization/control and manipulation. Guys look at this : https://www.cryptocrib.net/d/62-upcoming-bitcoin-forks It will hurt us?
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December 01, 2017, 08:19:51 PM |
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Consider google adsence as a way to promote and attract investors.
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December 01, 2017, 08:29:45 PM |
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I did vote to list this coin on Mercatox. I find it strange if team or devs payed 4 BTC to list this coin on C-CEX. It's very overpriced. https://info.btcz.rocks/Cryptopia and Coinexchange.io are much bigger and more popular exchanges. c-cex was paid by one guy who already left and created new fork coin. No funds from donations was used. BTW: He is going to delist btcz from c-cex and list his coin. Also we may expect a lot of toxic FUDers which will be promoting other stuff. Anthony fo to another fork? Link this fork in PM please, want to see it. Why was choosen Equihash for btcz but not something like Lyra2Z?
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December 01, 2017, 08:33:47 PM |
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I did vote to list this coin on Mercatox. I find it strange if team or devs payed 4 BTC to list this coin on C-CEX. It's very overpriced. https://info.btcz.rocks/Cryptopia and Coinexchange.io are much bigger and more popular exchanges. c-cex was paid by one guy who already left and created new fork coin. No funds from donations was used. BTW: He is going to delist btcz from c-cex and list his coin. Also we may expect a lot of toxic FUDers which will be promoting other stuff. Anthony fo to another fork? Link this fork in PM please, want to see it. Why was choosen Equihash for btcz but not something like Lyra2Z? Probably because BTCZ is a fork of ZCash.
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Dopert
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December 01, 2017, 08:39:29 PM |
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I did vote to list this coin on Mercatox. I find it strange if team or devs payed 4 BTC to list this coin on C-CEX. It's very overpriced. https://info.btcz.rocks/Cryptopia and Coinexchange.io are much bigger and more popular exchanges. C-CEX was listed by one individual who paid 4 BTC out of his own pockets, it wasn't paid with the community funds. Wow, he must love C-CEX. I bought btcz also there. Works fine, but Cryptopia is where i wish fore about btcz
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December 01, 2017, 09:25:46 PM |
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I did vote to list this coin on Mercatox. I find it strange if team or devs payed 4 BTC to list this coin on C-CEX. It's very overpriced. https://info.btcz.rocks/Cryptopia and Coinexchange.io are much bigger and more popular exchanges. c-cex was paid by one guy who already left and created new fork coin. No funds from donations was used. BTW: He is going to delist btcz from c-cex and list his coin. Also we may expect a lot of toxic FUDers which will be promoting other stuff. Anthony fo to another fork? Link this fork in PM please, want to see it. Why was choosen Equihash for btcz but not something like Lyra2Z? Probably because BTCZ is a fork of ZCash. We should precise that it's only a core fork.
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Victorio
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December 01, 2017, 10:38:27 PM |
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I'm expecting governments to start mining bitcoin soon so they can control it.
I can't imagine any government-backed currency to rely on PoW or even PoS. In my view, a state cryptocurrency should be: 1. either 100% premined, locking a share of the supply in smart contracts tied to macroeconomic indicators or with an adjustable inflation rate 2. auditable 3. transparent, i.e. no anonymous transactions 4. categorically DPoS or a similar multi-point consensus mechanism
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December 02, 2017, 12:57:42 AM Last edit: December 02, 2017, 01:32:28 AM by plodoto |
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To those who complain about the maximum supply, if you really do understand currencies (crypto or otherwise) you'd know that supply is one of the least important characteristics. It doesn't matter if the maximum supply is 1 or infinite, what matters is the perceived value of the currency. Remember when pizza used to sell for 10,000 Bitcoins?
To those who whine about the equihash algorithm, yes maybe lyra2rev2 is better, maybe worse...I don't know, but one thing is sure: we can't change algos so deal with it.
To those who question BTCZ's value proposal, yes maybe BTCZ doesn't offer any specialized feature or more advanced technology or new capability...what it does offer is the chance for people to be truly in control of their money and their future. Independent of any critical ties to developers, governments, corporations etc, BTCZ is truly a currency of the people, for the people, by the people.
To those who propose BTCZ be listed on decentralized exchanges, I agree with you completely. Decentralized currencies and decentralized exchanges have to happen if people want real freedom and power for themselves.
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December 02, 2017, 01:12:05 AM |
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Haven't seen an uglier exchange for entire life, 1 bitcoin per day volume, bad move team. Exchanges like this does not give any credibility. I agree about moving away from centralised exchanges.. my point of view is. Dont pay exchanges the fee to join. like hitbtc 10btc What!! fuck no. we have a limited amount of btcz to spend. and i will strongly advise against centralised exchanges. they are the past. decentralize exchange is the future! Its all about the middle man, Like what uber did and what amazon did. So what that means to us is centralised exchanges will be the middle man of crypto, And will be left out if they do not adapt. we will waste our btcz if we go in centralised exchanges direction. i say we wait!! for bardex and altcoin.io to be better. and dont waste money on the old tech. go in and vote for the coin and leave a comment. https://feedback.altcoinexchange.com/suggestions/2021/bitcoinz-btcz-pow-equihash-algorithm absolutely with you. we must move donations for promotion, not to food exchanges.
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December 02, 2017, 01:35:29 AM |
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POOL / GIVEAWAY Giveaway is now at 3 000 BitcoinZ for Sunday. Thanks to t1PffekU4dK2xz7GN8f9kBuUgvDBf4CrbUp for your donation. Pool is having more hashrate everydays ! Giveaway amount will probably increase until sunday so keep going on. Giveaway Rules at : https://bitcoinzguiding.ovh/giveaways.htmlPool at : http://pool.perpignan.ovh/We are getting between 140 to 180 KSols/s so keep on joining to decentralize hashrate from Suprnova. Welcome to new minersGUIDING WEBSITEI have added a google translator to the guide, it will not be a proper translation but it will help. Button is above the Community Links. Link of guide : https://bitcoinzguiding.ovh/In decentralization we trust switched over to your pool!
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Light, Love, and the Absence of Litigation <3
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Barsban
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December 02, 2017, 01:37:21 AM |
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Withdraw Bitcoin is expensive with higher and higher transaction fees. So I simply recommend that we should use Bitcoin to buy Dogecoin, then withdraw those Dogecoins. Then sell Doge coin to get Bitcoin again at other exchanges. That is what I mean.
And the whole process you are describing is cheaper including trading fees and the hassle than just withdrawing your Bitcoin? Bcore (BTC) is scam with centralized hubs, KYC/AML in the future and fraud developers (more at reddit r/btc. Only stupid persons buy this scam to hold. True bitcoin is bitcoin(cash/BCH). it's go with the main line while Bcore forked away with segwit. Bitcoin is the ownership of community. Not scam core team. Therefor, I does not know why we need to list on exchanges to trade and fix price of BitcoinZ for BTC scam.
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December 02, 2017, 01:42:30 AM |
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POOL / GIVEAWAY Giveaway is now at 3 000 BitcoinZ for Sunday. Thanks to t1PffekU4dK2xz7GN8f9kBuUgvDBf4CrbUp for your donation. Pool is having more hashrate everydays ! Giveaway amount will probably increase until sunday so keep going on. Giveaway Rules at : https://bitcoinzguiding.ovh/giveaways.htmlPool at : http://pool.perpignan.ovh/We are getting between 140 to 180 KSols/s so keep on joining to decentralize hashrate from Suprnova. Welcome to new minersGUIDING WEBSITEI have added a google translator to the guide, it will not be a proper translation but it will help. Button is above the Community Links. Link of guide : https://bitcoinzguiding.ovh/In decentralization we trust switched over to your pool! Welcome ! GIVEWAYAmount updated, 4 winners of 1 000 BitcoinZ.
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December 02, 2017, 03:03:53 AM |
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Haven't seen an uglier exchange for entire life, 1 bitcoin per day volume, bad move team. Exchanges like this does not give any credibility. I agree about moving away from centralised exchanges.. my point of view is. Dont pay exchanges the fee to join. like hitbtc 10btc What!! fuck no. we have a limited amount of btcz to spend. and i will strongly advise against centralised exchanges. they are the past. decentralize exchange is the future! Its all about the middle man, Like what uber did and what amazon did. So what that means to us is centralised exchanges will be the middle man of crypto, And will be left out if they do not adapt. we will waste our btcz if we go in centralised exchanges direction. i say we wait!! for bardex and altcoin.io to be better. and dont waste money on the old tech. go in and vote for the coin and leave a comment. https://feedback.altcoinexchange.com/suggestions/2021/bitcoinz-btcz-pow-equihash-algorithm absolutely with you. we must move donations for promotion, not to food exchanges. decentralized exchanges are the future... but for now i would advise to pay Yobit 0.1 btc for listing
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December 02, 2017, 04:41:54 AM |
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POOL / GIVEAWAY Giveaway is now at 3 000 BitcoinZ for Sunday. Thanks to t1PffekU4dK2xz7GN8f9kBuUgvDBf4CrbUp for your donation. Pool is having more hashrate everydays ! Giveaway amount will probably increase until sunday so keep going on. Giveaway Rules at : https://bitcoinzguiding.ovh/giveaways.htmlPool at : http://pool.perpignan.ovh/We are getting between 140 to 180 KSols/s so keep on joining to decentralize hashrate from Suprnova. Welcome to new minersGUIDING WEBSITEI have added a google translator to the guide, it will not be a proper translation but it will help. Button is above the Community Links. Link of guide : https://bitcoinzguiding.ovh/In decentralization we trust switched over to your pool! Welcome ! GIVEWAYAmount updated, 4 winners of 1 000 BitcoinZ. It is funny this lotery : congratulation for this idea. Currently, there is some little issue with payout. Confirmed balances are not payed since many hours. Not worry, I'm waiting the end of sleeping time in France ;-).
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December 02, 2017, 04:54:43 AM Last edit: December 02, 2017, 05:46:28 AM by hashgod |
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Good Day folks, as you all may know, we have a multitude of exchanges we are trying to get listed on as well as many projects that the development team needs funding for in order to build awareness for BTCZ. This fact, coupled with the success of the previous hash rate for donations lottery, we are now upping the ante. This time we are raising the jackpot substantially, with a two-tier drawing for the following: Drawing for winner will take place on 27th of December Drawing 1: 50 K/sol for 24 hours on the 28th of December - Minimum donation: 3,000 BTCZ Drawing 2: 50 K/sol for 6 hours on the 29th of December - Minimum donation: 500 BTCZ Note: those who donate hash rate for the full 24 hours + 6 hours of the fundraiser will be automatically entered into the drawing for the 6-hour jackpot. You are still welcome to donate 3,000 BTCZ to be entered into the 24-hour jackpot as well! At this time, Hashgod, and Rizzman1000 are putting out a call to arms to ask for a few good miners to pledge their support to the community by donating as much K/sols as possible to help us ensure this fundraiser is a success. At current, we have personally committed 20K/sol to this cause, and are in need of another 30 K/sol from the community for this 30-hour fund drive. Please consider donating hashing power to the cause using the link below and please only sign up if you are 100% sure you can commit: Donate Hashing Power: Note: Deadline to sign-up is December 21st https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScWlLRjorBw5odTZ9VomjjQso7R-i871ZI2Z6YUu3bo-8KJIw/viewformDonate BTCZ: Note: Deadline for donation is December 21st https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1kmd9-4KPkjW0IFZ537l0hbVwLI1NociUN63YJNKC6-g/viewform
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December 02, 2017, 04:59:45 AM |
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POOL / GIVEAWAY Giveaway is now at 3 000 BitcoinZ for Sunday. Thanks to t1PffekU4dK2xz7GN8f9kBuUgvDBf4CrbUp for your donation. Pool is having more hashrate everydays ! Giveaway amount will probably increase until sunday so keep going on. Giveaway Rules at : https://bitcoinzguiding.ovh/giveaways.htmlPool at : http://pool.perpignan.ovh/We are getting between 140 to 180 KSols/s so keep on joining to decentralize hashrate from Suprnova. Welcome to new minersGUIDING WEBSITEI have added a google translator to the guide, it will not be a proper translation but it will help. Button is above the Community Links. Link of guide : https://bitcoinzguiding.ovh/In decentralization we trust switched over to your pool! Welcome ! GIVEWAYAmount updated, 4 winners of 1 000 BitcoinZ. It is funny this lotery : congratulation for this idea. Currently, there is some little issue with payout. Confirmed balances are not payed since many hours. Not worry, I'm waiting the end of sleeping time in France ;-). Yeah i'm on it, it's coming, i wasn't sleeping ah ah still working. All the waiting coins are immature, need confirmations. I will not go to sleep until this is done. And thank you
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December 02, 2017, 05:18:45 AM |
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All the waiting coins are immature, need confirmations. I will not go to sleep until this is done.
I don't understand : in my browser, some blocks are not paid but mature since many blocks.(more than 130 confirmations, for example blocs 47580, 47552,47524, 47522...).
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December 02, 2017, 05:20:47 AM Last edit: December 02, 2017, 06:03:59 AM by ragnartriangle |
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All the waiting coins are immature, need confirmations. I will not go to sleep until this is done.
I don't understand : in my browser, some blocks are not paid but mature since many blocks.(more than 130 confirmations, for example blocs 47580, 47552,47524, 47522...). Yes it's because the process payment stuck in transitions of coins between pool wallets addresses so i fixed it and it's resending
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December 02, 2017, 05:48:22 AM |
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Hi, how to save my windows Wallet please ?
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