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June 07, 2013, 02:04:00 PM
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What is anonymous about this coin? By nature all of these coins are 100% transparent but that doesn't mean anonymous. Just because I might not be able to tell A3jkh3234asdlknfk32h423nkjsadnf belongs to "someuser" doesn't mean I can't see that user's transactions. This is NOT anonymous...
Yes of course you can see transactions. What this coin is aiming for is to be used on darknets, which make it difficult to track regarding IPs etc. Also I2P/TOR provides a great encryption layer, but yes, it does not help the transactions. The transactions can never be anonymous in the way you describe it. Anonymity is not a boolean, you have to know how to be it.. You can't just download a software and expect to be guaranteed 100% anonymous. Also, the name isn't just because of the upcomming features. It's also a "activist" coin agains the Central bank monopoly which try to stop bitcoin and all other coins if you haven't noticed. Believing the Central banks won't try to stop coins, is naive.. Note, paypal etc isn't allowed anymore to do transactions which can be related to bitcoin trading. Not at least, it isn't the first time Central banks have stopped other currencies that have become large enough to threat their monopoly. Related links: http://rt.com/op-edge/bitcoin-threat-bank-lost-433/http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/apr/07/bitcoin-scares-banks-governmentshttp://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-06-03/will-bitcoin-go-same-way-liberty-reservehttp://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2013/05/liberty-reserve-and-government-control-of-money/http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-21/us-begins-regulating-bitcoin-will-consider-virtual-transactions-money-laundering |
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muddafudda
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June 07, 2013, 02:16:20 PM |
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Get me if I'm wrong, all nodes can't be on tor which is what ever other alt coin can do.
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meeh (OP)
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June 07, 2013, 02:20:48 PM |
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Get me if I'm wrong, all nodes can't be on tor which is what ever other alt coin can do.
Correct. The plan is to have three lists of nodes hardcoded into the client. Then you got a chooise, I2P, TOR, Normal Internet or a mix of them.. (In case of mix, you will work as a gateway between the networks.) E.g. (Psudocode, not implementated yet) ./anoncoind -onlynet=I2P - I2P only ./anoncoind -onlynet=TOR - TOR only ./anoncoind -onlynet=CLEAR - Internet only ./anoncoind -net=ALL - Mix, all of them ./anoncoind -net=DARKNET - TOR/I2P only |
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shakezula
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June 07, 2013, 02:29:28 PM |
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Thank you for a real answer! Best of luck with your coin, I'll keep an eye on it! |
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meeh (OP)
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June 07, 2013, 02:32:08 PM |
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Thank you for a real answer! Best of luck with your coin, I'll keep an eye on it!
No problem, and thanks  I will update the first post with this info to make less confusion. |
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Hazard
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June 07, 2013, 02:49:20 PM |
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Load of FUD since this applies to literally every single coin "oh hey you can use my coin behind a proxy" is NOT a selling point. |
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meeh (OP)
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June 07, 2013, 02:56:58 PM |
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"oh hey you can use my coin behind a proxy" is NOT a selling point.
Do you read, or just comment...? Quote myself: " Also, the name isn't just because of the upcomming features. It's also a "activist" coin agains the Central bank monopoly which try to stop bitcoin and all other coins if you haven't noticed. Believing the Central banks won't try to stop coins, is naive.. " And I do not hide that every coin can be used behind a proxy. " All coins should support TOR via the proxy setting, but as far as I know none got TOR seed nodes. (Correct me if I'm wrong) " The coin is as said, again, meant to live on darknets, not use darknets as a proxy. Also it's a "activist" coin. So in the end, this is not selling.. It's a offer, if you don't want it, then don't use it. Simple as that. Rather what YOU do is selling... Offering a service for creating coins for people in exchange for coins.. THAT is selling. Please have some self insight before posting. |
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Hazard
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June 07, 2013, 03:03:15 PM |
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"oh hey you can use my coin behind a proxy" is NOT a selling point.
Do you read, or just comment...? Quote myself: " Also, the name isn't just because of the upcomming features. It's also a "activist" coin agains the Central bank monopoly which try to stop bitcoin and all other coins if you haven't noticed. Believing the Central banks won't try to stop coins, is naive.. " And I do not hide that every coin can be used behind a proxy. " All coins should support TOR via the proxy setting, but as far as I know none got TOR seed nodes. (Correct me if I'm wrong) " The coin is as said, again, meant to live on darknets, not use darknets as a proxy. Also it's a "activist" coin. So in the end, this is not selling.. It's a offer, if you don't want it, then don't use it. Simple as that. All coins are "activist" coins. Every single god damn one. Your coin offers nothing unique or special, just points out the obvious. Your coin is no more resistant to "central bank monopoly" pressure than every other coin. There is nothing that forces people to use the coin on the darknet. Therefore that is not a feature. But hey, you have a 4chan esque logo. You might attract some kiddies with it! |
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meeh (OP)
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June 07, 2013, 03:10:15 PM |
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"oh hey you can use my coin behind a proxy" is NOT a selling point.
Do you read, or just comment...? Quote myself: " Also, the name isn't just because of the upcomming features. It's also a "activist" coin agains the Central bank monopoly which try to stop bitcoin and all other coins if you haven't noticed. Believing the Central banks won't try to stop coins, is naive.. " And I do not hide that every coin can be used behind a proxy. " All coins should support TOR via the proxy setting, but as far as I know none got TOR seed nodes. (Correct me if I'm wrong) " The coin is as said, again, meant to live on darknets, not use darknets as a proxy. Also it's a "activist" coin. So in the end, this is not selling.. It's a offer, if you don't want it, then don't use it. Simple as that. All coins are "activist" coins. Every single god damn one. Your coin offers nothing unique or special, just points out the obvious. Your coin is no more resistant to "central bank monopoly" pressure than every other coin. There is nothing that forces people to use the coin on the darknet. Therefore that is not a feature. But hey, you have a 4chan esque logo. You might attract some kiddies with it! So why do you offer service to create new coins for people? Fun? Entertainment? Retardness? What's so special with your creations? Just because I don't use your service and actualy know to code doesn't give you the right to flame it with the selling argument. The reason the coin couldn't wait with release before the darknet features is because of services like you provide.. Too much junk, and it get lost between orgicoin and analcoin created by people like you for people that can't make a coin. The coin should have been released in the start of May when the project started, not now after 2000 alt coins. If you think the coin is stupid, say so, it's your opinion and you have full rights to say it. But you don't need to flame it. |
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June 07, 2013, 04:00:28 PM |
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The coin should have been released in the start of May when the project started, not now after 2000 alt coins.. So here you say that it was planned to be ready more than a month ago Yet you still don't have anything ready one month after that The reason the coin couldn't wait with release before the darknet features is because of services like you provide.. And here you say that you can't wait for anything to be ready because there are too many new coins Doesn't make much sense Also if you can't stand with free market, you should create a bank and start corrupting politics |
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arlington
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June 07, 2013, 04:07:22 PM |
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420 block a day? when I sync the client, it says 10317 blocks to sync. Is this a joke??
10317 blocks = 24+ days, heavily premined??
lol, right, the OP said "Not premined, only 1000 blocks premined", and "420 blocks per day" what a liar. Only half day (or less), that 9000+ blocks are gone?? premined? instamined? it's a crap.. Also not a shock that the person blaming lying have created a coin himself. Feel free to flame if you think it help your coin Although this coin is moronic, that retard has been posting "premine" in the threads of every coin other than that Infnitecoin or whatever crap it's called. well OP made a mistake in his post, and you called the peoploe who found the problem "retard"?? From what I read, you are a 100% retard, or maybe the OP himself. To make a coin successful, honesty is the key. |
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MashRinx
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June 07, 2013, 04:29:06 PM |
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NOT Pre-mined (only ~1000 blocks, but most of it goes to the facuet) That's some serious double-speak there. How many coins were in each of these first 1,000 blocks, I wonder? |
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meeh (OP)
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June 07, 2013, 04:40:03 PM |
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NOT Pre-mined (only ~1000 blocks, but most of it goes to the facuet) That's some serious double-speak there. How many coins were in each of these first 1,000 blocks, I wonder? The first 1000 was to set checkpoints. If you don't know why checkpoints is important, please read about it. You find more about it here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Checkpoint_LockinBlocks starts with 4.2 coins. Meaning it was 4200 coins at launch. If you wish to aquire some, visit the faucet where they are. Free for all to request once a day. Also, 200 of them was donated really fast to people using this coin.. Read the thread history if you don't believe it. If there is doubt about the block size, check the source: https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L834Notice that it's first on block 42000 the block value rises, so it was not a attempt to have a cheat start with big valued blocks at the beginning or something retarded like that. If doh, 2-40k blocks where mined, I would agree with you that it was premined. |
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MashRinx
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June 07, 2013, 04:45:37 PM |
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NOT Pre-mined (only ~1000 blocks, but most of it goes to the facuet) That's some serious double-speak there. How many coins were in each of these first 1,000 blocks, I wonder? The first 1000 was to set checkpoints. If you don't know why checkpoints is important, please read about it. You find more about it here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Checkpoint_LockinBlocks starts with 4.2 coins. Meaning it was 4200 coins at launch. If you wish to aquire some, visit the faucet where they are. Free for all to request once a day. Also, 200 of them was donated really fast to people using this coin.. Read the thread history if you don't believe it. If there is doubt about the block size, check the source: https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L834Fair answer and thanks for the reply. That is a very reasonable amount, if you ask me. I don't understand why anyone would waste hashing on a coin with a stated 1,000,000+ coin premine, regardless of the reasons stated, and have seen at least one that stated 2 blocks premined, only later in the thread it was discovered that those 2 blocks were a million coins each. I am glad to hear this is not the case. Best of luck to you and this coin. |
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meeh (OP)
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June 07, 2013, 04:51:07 PM |
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NOT Pre-mined (only ~1000 blocks, but most of it goes to the facuet) That's some serious double-speak there. How many coins were in each of these first 1,000 blocks, I wonder? The first 1000 was to set checkpoints. If you don't know why checkpoints is important, please read about it. You find more about it here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Checkpoint_LockinBlocks starts with 4.2 coins. Meaning it was 4200 coins at launch. If you wish to aquire some, visit the faucet where they are. Free for all to request once a day. Also, 200 of them was donated really fast to people using this coin.. Read the thread history if you don't believe it. If there is doubt about the block size, check the source: https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L834Fair answer and thanks for the reply. That is a very reasonable amount, if you ask me. I don't understand why anyone would waste hashing on a coin with a stated 1,000,000+ coin premine, regardless of the reasons stated, and have seen at least one that stated 2 blocks premined, only later in the thread it was discovered that those 2 blocks were a million coins each. I am glad to hear this is not the case. Best of luck to you and this coin. Yes, I completely agree with you. Therefore we was really careful at mining the first 1000 blocks, so it didn't end up in 10k blocks instead... The faucet have ~2500coins. The rest is spread out on the initial nodes. We will collect them and add it to the faucet when required. Thanks, and best luck to you too! |
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June 07, 2013, 04:52:17 PM |
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Don' mine this coin! It's just bad news. If Hazard thinks it's crappy, you know t's crappy cuz you know the stuff Hazard puts out ain't that great. So go ahead and mine it if you want to mine a coin that's been premined to the kazoo!! I pass on this also!
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meeh (OP)
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June 07, 2013, 05:06:45 PM |
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The coin should have been released in the start of May when the project started, not now after 2000 alt coins.. So here you say that it was planned to be ready more than a month ago Yet you still don't have anything ready one month after that Did I say it was planned to be ready more than a month ago? Maybe it's mine or your english, but clearly that was not what I said. I said the project started. Started as in the idea came up, we were discussing it and looking on what could be improved etc. NOT as a finished project. The reason the coin couldn't wait with release before the darknet features is because of services like you provide.. And here you say that you can't wait for anything to be ready because there are too many new coins Doesn't make much sense Yes, as you see, it flows over with coins.. The development process should have been done faster, I agree with you on that part. Used too long time discussing specs and features and what goals which is possible and not. And with all this new coins comming up, it was now or never. If you don't like the coin, don't use it. Simple solution. Also if you can't stand with free market, you should create a bank and start corrupting politics
That's the congress and the people with "protection and free marked overview" behind the central banks job, not mine. |
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meeh (OP)
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June 07, 2013, 05:07:53 PM |
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Don' mine this coin! It's just bad news. If Hazard thinks it's crappy, you know t's crappy cuz you know the stuff Hazard puts out ain't that great. So go ahead and mine it if you want to mine a coin that's been premined to the kazoo!! I pass on this also!
Sure. Or maybe Hazard is just mad because we can code our own coin without having him to create it for us?  Mine whatever you want. |
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June 07, 2013, 05:35:55 PM |
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Don' mine this coin! It's just bad news. If Hazard thinks it's crappy, you know t's crappy cuz you know the stuff Hazard puts out ain't that great. So go ahead and mine it if you want to mine a coin that's been premined to the kazoo!! I pass on this also!
Sure. Or maybe Hazard is just mad because we can code our own coin without having him to create it for us? Mine whatever you want. "NOT made by Hazard". It's a great feature |
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June 07, 2013, 05:39:41 PM |
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it actually is
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