Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history)

[Arlic]

Hi,Can anyone visit the website of ANC?THANKS...

The website didnt load for me either.

It second time as it doesn't load at friday.
Anyway the website does work, but the host name can't be loaded from DNS server.

[cryptonewbie]

I'm not worried about that.  Sure it will be resolved soon.

[jamieb81]

anoncoin looks like a coin that could perform as bc but not many info on this coin, it's a pity

[meeh]

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Hi,

***UPDATE*** - New gpg key again.

This is an official announcement on my GnuPG keychange.
I'm switching from my old :

pub  4096R/354F0AF8 2012-08-07           
    Fingerprint=5E49 A9BD DFEC 4728 FC23  858F B8F5 3FAA 354F 0AF8

with my new:

pub  8192R/AD74682A 2014-03-18           
    Fingerprint=1F30 9F81 592D 4DC9 5058  D542 FBE2 BDA3 AD74 682A

Then I found some errors I made on creation, and incompability with Yubikey.

So I got me another one (final):

pub   8192R/0xB431B67770E4AA38 2014-03-22 [expires: 2024-03-19]
      Key fingerprint = CD37 42E4 20F4 F153 9371  A41F B431 B677 70E4 AA38

It's a master key, so I got different keys bellow it (signed by it) so I can use for personal usage,
Yubikey, apps, and so on.

Reason: 8192bit, multi-key, multi-ident, sub keys for signing/enc. & Yubikey.

I've updated the expire date on my old key to two month, and I will revoke it
in a month from now on.

The new key can be found at: http://keyserver.sigterm.no/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xFBE2BDA3AD74682A

I'm now signing this message with my old key, the same I released Anoncoin binaries with.
I will release with the new one in the future.


/Meeh
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[meeh]

DNS Issue should be fixed.

[meeh]

Everyone that run a Anoncoin pool, service or whatever that requires a connection to the ANC network plese join this mailinglist for announces about new versions good time in front before alert messges get posted. This is important because pool owners must try to upgrade at the sme time on our hardfork to Zerocoin. No spam, no mails other the release announcements.

http://lists.sigterm.no/listinfo/anoncoin-serviceannounce

Everyone interested in testing the Zerocoin, and/or want to help test the implementation on our new testnet when Gnosis pushes his final code, nd I build testbuilds for our testnet. Please register on our list and you will get the downlod links to our testbuilds and instructions once we're starting the testing! (At testing, a lot of mails will probably be sent between testers and developers)

http://lists.sigterm.no/listinfo/anoncoin-zerotest

[dewdeded]

Full zerocoin support?

[cryptonewbie]

I appreciate the update.  Can you put things in layman's terms for someone without a technical background?

[BroTroxer]

I appreciate the update.  Can you put things in layman's terms for someone without a technical background?

Zerocoin implementation will be used within the testnet. This testing will reveal critical issues/bugs before, if any, before it is applied to the production chain.

[Spekulatius]

Hard fork? What happens to the Anoncoins in existance? Can they be used after the fork as well? What if I have them on Cryptsy or similar? Anything else you can tell us about the fork?

[BroTroxer]

Hard fork? What happens to the Anoncoins in existance? Can they be used after the fork as well? What if I have them on Cryptsy or similar? Anything else you can tell us about the fork?

Not to worry. Coins in existence will not be affected in any negative manner. They will only get better  

[SmokingSkull]

So can somebody tell me about this "Zerocoin" Will this innovative thingy make Anoncoin
Fully Anonymous (how anonymous will that be) and will it be superior to Darkcoin/Darknet?

[dewdeded]

Yeah, please give us a comparison Darkcoin vs. Anoncoin security and level of anonymity.

[Arlic]

Yeah, please give us a comparison Darkcoin vs. Anoncoin security and level of anonymity.

There is an interview tih gnosis: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/24/interview-anoncoin-developer-speaks-zerocoin-implementation/
Gnosis have answered few weeks ago at this forum

Can someone explain for the non-programmers/non-cryptographers what is the difference between Anoncoin and Darkcoin, please?

Darkcoin plans to use "CoinJoin": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279249.0

Anoncoin plans to use Zerocoin: http://zerocoin.org/

I'm not sure on which is more anonymous.. I think we should start a debate thread perhaps.

CoinJoin has questionable anonymity compared to Zerocoin.  The reason is that with CoinJoin, two or more users must somehow partner up and forge a transaction together.  They communicate over a secure channel to do this.  The coins are only mixed among these "partners."  Picking partners you can trust is a significant obstacle: how can you know that your partners will "forget" the mixing that happened?  One may try to repeat this 10 times with randomly chosen partners, but how can you know that your partners are not all just sock puppets of one malicious entity (on an anonymous network, it is trivial to create as many fake users as you want[1])?  If that is the case, then your efforts are in vain.

Compare this with Zerocoin, where you put your coins in an accumulator, and they are mixed with the coins of all users who have put coins into that accumulator, since the beginning of Zerocoin.  There would be a different accumulator for different denominations of Anoncoins (1, 5, 10, 50 ANC, etc.).

To put it simply, the more users' coins your coins are mixed with, the more anonymity you have.

I cannot speak to Darkcoin's implementation (or planned implementation) of CoinJoin since I cannot seem to find any specs or code on their Github or their site.  If anyone knows, please point me to them.

Notes:

[1] Otherwise known as a Sybil attack: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_attack

[SmokingSkull]

Thanks Arlic!
So Zerocoin is superior to everything what's out there in terms of Anonymity
Let's see how it goes... sometimes I doubt it will affect the price. Many people just don't care about transferring things anonymously    ... people still use WhatsApp, Facebook and Twitter right?

[darkroad]

Darkroad Marketplace will now accept Bitcoin, Darkcoin and Anoncoin

[Arlic]

Meeh should make an atricle on wikipedia, as dogecoin did.

[Arlic]

A Polish website have written about anoncoin.
http://biznes.interia.pl/waluty/news/bitcoin-czy-mozna-zarabiac-na-wirtualnych-walutach,1995820,1023

[Spekulatius]

Yeah, please give us a comparison Darkcoin vs. Anoncoin security and level of anonymity.

vs. Dark Wallet vs. Stealth Addresses vs. Mixing services aka tumblers

[Tyke]

Anoncoin will feature two pages in the book called Cryptocurrency "The Alt-ernative" the Beginner's Reference

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483187.new#new


Please donate to the below Anoncoin wallet address in order to help fund this project:

ANVLEZMHZYZRtS9mT4WNxunwLN7xi89imD

It will have 2 pages similar to this:





If you spot any spelling or grammar errors, these are easily sorted.  I do have a full time job as well as trying to get this project completed too.