[ANN][ICO] VLB - The Ultimate Blockchain Fuel for the Vehicle Lifecycle Industy

[sibout]

So this ICO isn't going very well (apart from 3000+ eth out of a single transaction trough kraken and 100 ETH sent by an address connected to contract owner)

well the project is good, the startup is a couple of years in the business, so i think that the investors will still come

If I remember correctly they need 25k eth to raise their soft cap. I think this will be very hard for them to achieve.

There are still plenty of time to go. 25k eth seems hard to reach but with the good advertisement and efforts from the team, nothing is impossible.

Due to what has reached and caught attention so far, it may not be so difficult for VLB to reach the desired Cap, I still hope for the late search for great whales, not everyone like me will study the projects at every stage, and I believe that Team activity will be sufficient to achieve

Its strange that this kind of project, who already have a working platform in Russia for several years, cant raise more money than a project with just an idea out there. Its true they will have a lot of work integrating their business into blockchain but at least they have one.

Maybe because their business in Russia is unprofitable? I found this data in russian group. All the information is verified.
OOO «Кapфикc» russian name or "Carfix" LLC if you translate it to English. In red: 1) gross profit (loss) 2) Operating profit (loss). Year 2016



OOO «Ceлaникap» russian name or "Selanikar" LLC if you translate it to English, this is Carprice LLC in 2016. In red:  1) Operating profit (loss) 2) Profit (loss) before income tax
Don't waste your money on this project. They will rip you off

DEV, what is it really so? It does not turn out that some of the money received from your ICO will go to pay off CarFix's losses? I think many potential investors will not like it.

Everybody wanted to get the proof. Here is the proof.
Carprice and Carfix are connected with Oskar Hartmann, founder of VLB
Let's check Carprice oficial website
https://www.carprice.ru/#/
At the very bottom
Look for OOO «Ceлaникap» or "Selanikar" LLC on English
https://sbis.ru/contragents/7706807818/771701001
Look for individual taxpayer number - 7706807818, search in Google for "7706807818 report 2016"
As a result we receive a report
https://zachestnyibiznes.ru/company/ul/1147746325572_7706807818_OOO-SELANIKAR/balance
The screenshot is taken from there. As we can see Carprice's operating activities are unprofitable, by the end of 2016 there was 1.4 billiard Rub. loss, or 24 million USD at the current exchange rate. Let’s take into account the fact that during the year the company accumulates  about 600 million Rub loss (USD 10 million), which basically means that the company is close to its bankruptcy, as they receive 2.1 billion Rub. from investors.
Carfix
https://carfix.ru/terms
Look for the official name -OOO «Кapфикc» or "Carfix" LLC on english
https://sbis.ru/contragents/7706436472/770601001
Individual taxpayer number of the company - 7706436472, as a result we receive a report:
https://zachestnyibiznes.ru/company/ul/1167746369471_7706436472_OOO-KARFIKS/balance
A screenshot is taken from there. During 2016 (the company was established in mid-April), they have accumulated 50 million Rub loss (860000 USD), which is interesting as at the same time the revenue from operating activities has come to 3 million Rub. (50000 USD) with the cost of 18 million Rub. (310000 USD) production. It turns out that Oscar Hartman is such a ‘great’ businessman that he easily generates losses and attracts investors.
The reviews on the service Carfix deserve a special mention - http://otzovik.com/reviews/avtoservis_carfix_russia_moscow/
All reviews are extremely negative and you shouldn’t be surprised - according to the user agreement, they are not responsible for anything, except for the smooth operation of the application (paragraph 2.4).
The information provided by Carfix is a basis for building the blockchain, but they don’t have any contracts with official car dealers, banks, insurance companies (according to the information from the Carfix website and vlb.io). I don’t have a clue how they are going to build a global system. Do you?

[mr.robot8]

well, bought some vlb tokens finally cannot await this token to be flying to the moon in 2018 here we go

yeah, and i waiting some one dump it in market after VLB goes to market

that's usually the case with tokens now-a-days. it's too bad 'cause a lot of people are missing out on big profits.

maybe this is the right strategy wait for listing on some exchange and wait for dump of the price,but nobody can know in advance if price wil pump or dump after the end of the ico so the risk is the same in my opinion

[haxllega]

well, bought some vlb tokens finally cannot await this token to be flying to the moon in 2018 here we go

yeah, and i waiting some one dump it in market after VLB goes to market

that's usually the case with tokens now-a-days. it's too bad 'cause a lot of people are missing out on big profits.

maybe this is the right strategy wait for listing on some exchange and wait for dump of the price,but nobody can know in advance if price wil pump or dump after the end of the ico so the risk is the same in my opinion

Yes you can never know it. If you want to be 100% sure invest in the ICO. If you think bounties are too high for a project buy after it hits exchanges.

[Crashes]

So this ICO isn't going very well (apart from 3000+ eth out of a single transaction trough kraken and 100 ETH sent by an address connected to contract owner)

well the project is good, the startup is a couple of years in the business, so i think that the investors will still come

If I remember correctly they need 25k eth to raise their soft cap. I think this will be very hard for them to achieve.

There are still plenty of time to go. 25k eth seems hard to reach but with the good advertisement and efforts from the team, nothing is impossible.

Due to what has reached and caught attention so far, it may not be so difficult for VLB to reach the desired Cap, I still hope for the late search for great whales, not everyone like me will study the projects at every stage, and I believe that Team activity will be sufficient to achieve

Its strange that this kind of project, who already have a working platform in Russia for several years, cant raise more money than a project with just an idea out there. Its true they will have a lot of work integrating their business into blockchain but at least they have one.

Maybe because their business in Russia is unprofitable? I found this data in russian group. All the information is verified.
OOO «Кapфикc» russian name or "Carfix" LLC if you translate it to English. In red: 1) gross profit (loss) 2) Operating profit (loss). Year 2016
https://i.imgur.com/IhJT341.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/RMkvFUT.jpg
OOO «Ceлaникap» russian name or "Selanikar" LLC if you translate it to English, this is Carprice LLC in 2016. In red:  1) Operating profit (loss) 2) Profit (loss) before income tax
Don't waste your money on this project. They will rip you off

DEV, what is it really so? It does not turn out that some of the money received from your ICO will go to pay off CarFix's losses? I think many potential investors will not like it.

Everybody wanted to get the proof. Here is the proof.
Carprice and Carfix are connected with Oskar Hartmann, founder of VLB
Let's check Carprice oficial website
https://www.carprice.ru/#/
At the very bottom
Look for OOO «Ceлaникap» or "Selanikar" LLC on English
https://sbis.ru/contragents/7706807818/771701001
Look for individual taxpayer number - 7706807818, search in Google for "7706807818 report 2016"
As a result we receive a report
https://zachestnyibiznes.ru/company/ul/1147746325572_7706807818_OOO-SELANIKAR/balance
The screenshot is taken from there. As we can see Carprice's operating activities are unprofitable, by the end of 2016 there was 1.4 billiard Rub. loss, or 24 million USD at the current exchange rate. Let’s take into account the fact that during the year the company accumulates  about 600 million Rub loss (USD 10 million), which basically means that the company is close to its bankruptcy, as they receive 2.1 billion Rub. from investors.
Carfix
https://carfix.ru/terms
Look for the official name -OOO «Кapфикc» or "Carfix" LLC on english
https://sbis.ru/contragents/7706436472/770601001
Individual taxpayer number of the company - 7706436472, as a result we receive a report:
https://zachestnyibiznes.ru/company/ul/1167746369471_7706436472_OOO-KARFIKS/balance
A screenshot is taken from there. During 2016 (the company was established in mid-April), they have accumulated 50 million Rub loss (860000 USD), which is interesting as at the same time the revenue from operating activities has come to 3 million Rub. (50000 USD) with the cost of 18 million Rub. (310000 USD) production. It turns out that Oscar Hartman is such a ‘great’ businessman that he easily generates losses and attracts investors.
The reviews on the service Carfix deserve a special mention - http://otzovik.com/reviews/avtoservis_carfix_russia_moscow/
All reviews are extremely negative and you shouldn’t be surprised - according to the user agreement, they are not responsible for anything, except for the smooth operation of the application (paragraph 2.4).
The information provided by Carfix is a basis for building the blockchain, but they don’t have any contracts with official car dealers, banks, insurance companies (according to the information from the Carfix website and vlb.io). I don’t have a clue how they are going to build a global system. Do you?

Now that's what i call real investigation 

[loup]

well, bought some vlb tokens finally cannot await this token to be flying to the moon in 2018 here we go

yeah, and i waiting some one dump it in market after VLB goes to market

that's usually the case with tokens now-a-days. it's too bad 'cause a lot of people are missing out on big profits.

maybe this is the right strategy wait for listing on some exchange and wait for dump of the price,but nobody can know in advance if price wil pump or dump after the end of the ico so the risk is the same in my opinion

Indeed after the ICO sometimes the price pumps and it's a good sign because that means there's a lot of people interested on the project that could't get into the ICO on time.

[cmg12]

well, bought some vlb tokens finally cannot await this token to be flying to the moon in 2018 here we go

yeah, and i waiting some one dump it in market after VLB goes to market

that's usually the case with tokens now-a-days. it's too bad 'cause a lot of people are missing out on big profits.

maybe this is the right strategy wait for listing on some exchange and wait for dump of the price,but nobody can know in advance if price wil pump or dump after the end of the ico so the risk is the same in my opinion

Yes you can never know it. If you want to be 100% sure invest in the ICO. If you think bounties are too high for a project buy after it hits exchanges.

Yep it is worth to make some due diligence. It's better to miss an opportunity that lost your investment

[VLB_token]

Maybe because their business in Russia is unprofitable? I found this data in russian group. All the information is verified.

During 2016 (the company was established in mid-April), they have accumulated 50 million Rub loss (860000 USD), which is interesting as at the same time the revenue from operating activities has come to 3 million Rub. (50000 USD) with the cost of 18 million Rub. (310000 USD) production. It turns out that Oscar Hartman is such a ‘great’ businessman that he easily generates losses and attracts investors.
The reviews on the service Carfix deserve a special mention - http://otzovik.com/reviews/avtoservis_carfix_russia_moscow/
All reviews are extremely negative and you shouldn’t be surprised - according to the user agreement, they are not responsible for anything, except for the smooth operation of the application (paragraph 2.4).
The information provided by Carfix is a basis for building the blockchain, but they don’t have any contracts with official car dealers, banks, insurance companies (according to the information from the Carfix website and vlb.io). I don’t have a clue how they are going to build a global system. Do you?

Carfix was founded in April 2016. Since that the company became bigger 15 times. If it was unproffitable it wouldn't be impossible. It is a really working business with a gross sales of 1mln usd (November 2017 info).

We have a partnership with VW and Sberbank insurrance, that is noticed on VLB website. As well as some other partners like Uber, QIWI, etc. You can check this: https://carfix.ru/landing/uber as a proof of partnership with Uber.

[Amelie Poulain]

well, bought some vlb tokens finally cannot await this token to be flying to the moon in 2018 here we go

yeah, and i waiting some one dump it in market after VLB goes to market

that's usually the case with tokens now-a-days. it's too bad 'cause a lot of people are missing out on big profits.

maybe this is the right strategy wait for listing on some exchange and wait for dump of the price,but nobody can know in advance if price wil pump or dump after the end of the ico so the risk is the same in my opinion

Indeed after the ICO sometimes the price pumps and it's a good sign because that means there's a lot of people interested on the project that could't get into the ICO on time.

I agree, after the listing price can grow strongly - considering how much can be popular and useful this project. Let's wait VLB to the moon.

[imtiazmahmood]

what is the total supply of tokens and what about ICO end date? what will be price on ICO and pre sale per token? project looks like very promising project.

There will be issued up 250 mln tokens

200 mln VLB Tokens will be sold during ICO

The pre-sale is already finished.

Token price will be changed every 5 days (4 stages in total)

- Stage 1 – 27 Nov – 1 Dec – Base price 650 VLB Tokens for 1 ETH plus 195 VLB Tokens free of charge – a total of 845 Tokens for 1 ETH

- Stage 2 – 2 Dec – 6 Dec – Base price 650 VLB Tokens for 1 ETH plus 130 VLB Tokens free of charge – a total of 780 VLB Tokens for 1 ETH

- Stage 3 – 7 Dec - 11 Dec – Base price 650 VLB Tokens for 1 ETH plus 65 VLB Tokens free of charge – total of 715 VLB Tokens for 1 ETH

- Stage 4 – 12 Dec – 17 Dec – Base price for 650 VLB Tokens for 1 ETH.

thank you for the information. now ICO is live and going very successful. i think this opportunity should everyone take. VLB strategy and team background is solid. i am very satisfied with VLB.

[all_inman]

Very strong project. I have bought some coins during the icO

[Amelie Poulain]

what is the total supply of tokens and what about ICO end date? what will be price on ICO and pre sale per token? project looks like very promising project.

There will be issued up 250 mln tokens

200 mln VLB Tokens will be sold during ICO

The pre-sale is already finished.

Token price will be changed every 5 days (4 stages in total)

- Stage 1 – 27 Nov – 1 Dec – Base price 650 VLB Tokens for 1 ETH plus 195 VLB Tokens free of charge – a total of 845 Tokens for 1 ETH

- Stage 2 – 2 Dec – 6 Dec – Base price 650 VLB Tokens for 1 ETH plus 130 VLB Tokens free of charge – a total of 780 VLB Tokens for 1 ETH

- Stage 3 – 7 Dec - 11 Dec – Base price 650 VLB Tokens for 1 ETH plus 65 VLB Tokens free of charge – total of 715 VLB Tokens for 1 ETH

- Stage 4 – 12 Dec – 17 Dec – Base price for 650 VLB Tokens for 1 ETH.

thank you for the information. now ICO is live and going very successful. i think this opportunity should everyone take. VLB strategy and team background is solid. i am very satisfied with VLB.

I agree, project team has well thought strategy. By the way today is the last day, when can get 30% - it's sin not to take this opportunity.

[o48o]

well, bought some vlb tokens finally cannot await this token to be flying to the moon in 2018 here we go

yeah, and i waiting some one dump it in market after VLB goes to market

that's usually the case with tokens now-a-days. it's too bad 'cause a lot of people are missing out on big profits.

maybe this is the right strategy wait for listing on some exchange and wait for dump of the price,but nobody can know in advance if price wil pump or dump after the end of the ico so the risk is the same in my opinion

Indeed after the ICO sometimes the price pumps and it's a good sign because that means there's a lot of people interested on the project that could't get into the ICO on time.

I usually invest some to ico, and save some crypto just in case if it dips on exchange, so i can lower my entry price. If it doesn't, i'll have my ico tokens and i'll just enjoy the pump.

[Elkmar]

VLB ICO period is only for 1 week, I think they should make it much longer, at least for about 3 weeks just like any other ICO.

Token sales will run until December, 17th. Maybe you misread the information under the ICO status on the website. There will be 4 stages that have different bonuses in each stage. The sooner you invest in VLB, the more tokens you'll get.

Do you know how much is the hard cap please ?

Hard cap is 300,000 ETH

Thanks, quite a big admount but could be reached seeing the beginning of the ICO.

[captainhera]

Nice to hear the cap has been reached.
no way back now people.. Start your engines.. but don't forget the oilchange offcourse
A smooth running engine is key for a good car

Finally good news .. Now commit to your promise VLB

Indeed this is great news!
Glad this project will continue. I'm sure VLB will have a great future.

Keep it up team!

[cmg12]

VLB ICO period is only for 1 week, I think they should make it much longer, at least for about 3 weeks just like any other ICO.

Token sales will run until December, 17th. Maybe you misread the information under the ICO status on the website. There will be 4 stages that have different bonuses in each stage. The sooner you invest in VLB, the more tokens you'll get.

Do you know how much is the hard cap please ?

Hard cap is 300,000 ETH

Thanks, quite a big admount but could be reached seeing the beginning of the ICO.

They won't reach it. It is almost impossible to do so

[BigBoy89]

In what stage is this ICO? According to OP 3 days past and I can't see update of collected amount.

[Pajulapoiss]

So how much does it cost to get a spot for my car in your blockchain system?

can only new cars be added? Or can I start tracking my vehicle even some years after purchasing it?

[VLB_token]

So how much does it cost to get a spot for my car in your blockchain system?

can only new cars be added? Or can I start tracking my vehicle even some years after purchasing it?

Not only new ones, but there won't be any info about it before the first record in the blockchain about it.

[Trrrt]

Even if the hard cap is not reached VLB will go on, and I they already have enough money to make the project go very far I think. Remember that they have big partnerships, a great point to have a sucessfull project.

[greatteager]

In what stage is this ICO? According to OP 3 days past and I can't see update of collected amount.

Wait a few days, the developers promise to enroll money in a smart contract soon.