[ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure

[meikelcoin]

in two three weeks we will see who delivers first! ENVION or Terraminer.io. Terraminer is a small ICO and they are already producing. that will be very interesting to see who brings more profit

[futureofeth]

When will this coin be listed in a good coin exchange, like Binance, Bittrex ...
The majority of investors will not buy this coin before.
I recommend that too. There are enough other coins to invest.

why should good exchanges install this token? he can not be traded because very few people got the tokens. and no trade no good exchange. they take better tokens than ENVION. ENVION  has the great Exchange  ShitBTC. Is not that enough for the beginning?   

and the course is also great $ 0.522950 USD (-4.54%)

Wow.  $0,412267 USD (-8,11%)   I'm sorry for the investors. no team here and no good exchange. that is getting worse . I wanted to buy at 45 cents. Now I'm waiting for 38 cents. will come soon 

That's how the market is going to be, check the other coins price? The market is facing a lot of issues with the Bitcoin price and the prices of all coins are kept decreasing in the market and there is no need worrying about the present situation of the market.

[lofegs]

in two three weeks we will see who delivers first! ENVION or Terraminer.io. Terraminer is a small ICO and they are already producing. that will be very interesting to see who brings more profit

I don't know about Terraminer but Envion is also producing. These days I'm seeing some similar projects to Envion.
We can compare better months later maybe one year later.

[bitcircle]

in two three weeks we will see who delivers first! ENVION or Terraminer.io. Terraminer is a small ICO and they are already producing. that will be very interesting to see who brings more profit

I don't know about Terraminer but Envion is also producing. These days I'm seeing some similar projects to Envion.
We can compare better months later maybe one year later.

Agreed with you this is still very young project and this is not a good time to compare both. We should give some time to dev and have patience this will bring more positive result towards this and all investors will be able to make huge profit.

[o48o]

Obviously Yobit is not a great deal, infact no one trust him and they also act fishy sometimes. Said that, i'm in the mood to forget my ENV tokens and just wait after the summer to check again what i've earned. What's the scope to check everyday ENV price if we do not even have good exchangers? For the fast-big-money believers i'm sorry.. for the others, just wait.

Yes I agree none cares or should care about Yobit , I would prefer they spend a little money and get listed on Bittrex or Binance.
I'm also going to wait at least till after the summer if there are any returns coming in from the mining before I pass judgement.

I don't think that you can be talking about "little money" on Binance listing. Kucoin maybe... Also, it really doesn't matter. I am wondering why investors are now even thinking that adding a new exchange would bring the price up if people want to sell cheaper anyway. Let them sell. It makes other investors happy. Some of them are just accumulating more.

[hassanchahrour]

That's my point. The mining difficulty has increased from the time of their initial projections but so has the power of the miners they purchased. I don't know whether that will rebalance us back to 161% but we shouldn't be far off. Also, don't forget their plan to mine the most profitable coin.  With envion level of hashpower, they can switch frequently with minimal penalty and cash out to eth just as frequently to ensure they keep the advantage of the coin they just mined. Some coins spike in price for a couple days and are insanely profitable during that time. I can't take advantage of that with my 4 miners, but envion can.

[andiagung]

it's a misunderstanding of the purpose of this token. They didn't issue this token in order for it to jump up in value for us to profit from.. If that happens, it's a nice side effect. The purpose of this token is the dividends. These happen no matter how high or low the token is valued. The token price is not an indication of how well Envion is doing, it's an exsmple of weak investor psychology. Yes, it's an indication of how much the general public is confident in Envion, but that doesn't indicate their success. It just means there's no huge reason to have the token yet because it isn't paying dividends yet. Just keep in mind that the token price does not reflect the success of the company.

[eduardocastellano]

to envion, it's just Tokens changing hands, the number of token outstanding is the same, the holders are getting less and less because people are accumulating.  once you sell the token, you're no longer their investor, so they don't care about keeping the price high to benefit those that rid of envion.
Gpus are as well, it's just a price/performance game. My first gpu rig cost $4500 but earned the same as my $1500 Antminer S9. The difference is, the s9 can only mine one algorithm, SHA256. Gpus can mine multiple different algorithms....and be resold to gamers when you're done

[btctalker77]

It doesn't matter at all what is the token price now if you are here for the dividends and you believe in the project. If Envion will deliver, now it is a good time to buy because you can get two tokens at the price of one during the ICO.

I believe one of the factors for the price drop is the huge 19 EVN fee for withdrawals at ShitBTC. For every buyer that withdraws his EVN, ShitBTC earns 19 EVN and spends a small fraction of ETH for the transaction. ShitBTC will then sell the EVN it earned in order to get ETH which it uses for gas. ShitBTC makes a profit in ETH since the transaction price is much lower than the value they get for 19 EVN, but the effect on EVN price is a negative one, since ShitBTC is a constant seller of EVN.

For everyone who buys EVN and withdraws, there are 19 EVN to be sold back into the market by ShitBTC. That puts a constant negative pressure on the price.

The upside to this is that lower prices means more weak hands selling their EVN at a loss and giving us the opportunity to buy more EVN cheaper.

[torry28]

Crypto space get better every day. More solutions for wallets, payment gateways etc come every day. By the end of 2018 more users and stores will be trading in crypto than ever.

You are totally off topic on here and i don't even know and understand what are you talking about on here (It's sounds like you were using translate tools).

You're saying we are losing money because the price is dropping. Until I sell my tokens, I haven't lost a thing. I'm not selling my tokens, so I've lost nothing. You don't seem to understand how investments in general work. Your opinions are coming from an ignorant, uninformed, and probably fearful point of view on investing in general.

Sad but what are you saying is true. A lot of people's logic is, when price dropping, it's mean you have lost your investment value even though you didn't sell it. The real investors don't even care about current price and keep HODL their token for long-term

[Leodalat]

I see many people asking about dividends and I would like to mention that. Please don't make up dates unless you know for sure. As far as I am aware (based on Laurent's comments), some will get dividends maybe as early as next month if Audit etc done by then as a large order of hardware is expected. Then as MMU's increase more and more will get them. So by end of June maybe most will get dividends and surely all will by end of July. Most of the MMU's should be mining by end of June if things are on track.

[voteformeg]

in two three weeks we will see who delivers first! ENVION or Terraminer.io. Terraminer is a small ICO and they are already producing. that will be very interesting to see who brings more profit

I don't know about Terraminer but Envion is also producing. These days I'm seeing some similar projects to Envion.
We can compare better months later maybe one year later.

i think they are both producing but there is nothing to compare , both projects just started , it can take minimum a year before you can say anything about their development

get in for the long run and forget marketprices

[sluppy]

Obviously Yobit is not a great deal, infact no one trust him and they also act fishy sometimes. Said that, i'm in the mood to forget my ENV tokens and just wait after the summer to check again what i've earned. What's the scope to check everyday ENV price if we do not even have good exchangers? For the fast-big-money believers i'm sorry.. for the others, just wait.

Yes I agree none cares or should care about Yobit , I would prefer they spend a little money and get listed on Bittrex or Binance.
I'm also going to wait at least till after the summer if there are any returns coming in from the mining before I pass judgement.

I don't think that you can be talking about "little money" on Binance listing. Kucoin maybe... Also, it really doesn't matter. I am wondering why investors are now even thinking that adding a new exchange would bring the price up if people want to sell cheaper anyway. Let them sell. It makes other investors happy. Some of them are just accumulating more.

The Little is relative they took in over 100.000.000 so 50k isnt that much but ye those sites have gone crazy i remember when u could Buy your bittrex listings for 3btc when btc was sub 1k now they want 50k .. insanity.
I personally dont need or want another exchange listing im just saying that If your want to get listed somewhere id want those places and i wouldnt waste time on Yobit c-cex and a few dozen others none cares about.

[jtalk]

Importance of big exchanges can't be denied but there are other factors too which are driving its price down. For example team didn't complete the distribution which isn't professional at all after this long and installation of mining containers is going on without production at the moment. There are some uncertainties which need to be cleared to have exact data in black and white. Other important reason market's bearish trend also inputting its role in all this.

[criptosistemas]

Hello friends, I am a criptosistema and have not yet received my tokens.
user https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1210312
post  naelbetancourtlatino@gmail.com
spreadsheet 496 497
wallet 0x3975b136662e638b49d0F9f54cBd9bF9c456a755

https://steemit.com/envion/@criptosistema/envion-cryptomoney-mining-in-mobile-containers

[YourMother]

The 100M ICO just turned into 30M. How the fuck are they going to build the containers now ? More so, how will that affect the dividend payouts ?

[camargoherrera]

Pretty much instant. We won’t convert you individual payment until your KYC clears so that we can refund you exactly, but we will be converting to fiat daily as payments are processed.

[Gucci999]

I am surprised how retarded everyone here seems to think Envion employees are
But then again I have surprised myself before by overestimating such things

[Tansmorph]

Is this still a project to invest?

[Lunar Crank]

ICO has already ended couple month ago. And many investors still haven't received their tokens. But you can buy EVN on HitBTC or Idex.