Thadeous
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July 03, 2018, 03:54:37 PM |
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This image compiled from telegram chats is nothing else than a FUD. Spreading such crap tells that you are one of those three characters: 1) dumper, who want's to buy on dips; 2) hodler with negative IQ, because only microcephalic investors spread such rumors around their investments; 3) FUDstard - stranger that hates and floods with no particular reason.
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publiccoin57
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July 03, 2018, 04:29:42 PM |
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i am sorry to hear about your investment though but keep in mind it is a loss that is yet to be materialized
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denam
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July 03, 2018, 07:24:45 PM |
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Why founders are not appearing publicly and sharing what they have in mind to do next after winning the case in court. When there will not be any direct or indirect communication between investors and founders then rumors based on truth and lies both will circulate. Everyone will interpretate the way he wants within own interest. If they all these rumors to stop then be communicative and friendly this time at least.
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sluppy
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July 03, 2018, 08:04:14 PM |
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This image compiled from telegram chats is nothing else than a FUD. Spreading such crap tells that you are one of those three characters: 1) dumper, who want's to buy on dips; 2) hodler with negative IQ, because only microcephalic investors spread such rumors around their investments; 3) FUDstard - stranger that hates and floods with no particular reason. You just keep drinking that Guava juice Jim jones is feeding u kid.
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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke -- May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house.George Carlin We pay for life with death , so everything in between should be free. Bill Hicks -- It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light. Aristotle Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. Buddha -- The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Socrates
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irsada
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July 04, 2018, 07:40:02 AM |
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I am surprised at this envion project that has so many problems in ICO, such as not returning investors and not paying bounty but why in the market this project remains stable price. what do you think?
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July 04, 2018, 12:18:59 PM |
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I am surprised at this envion project that has so many problems in ICO, such as not returning investors and not paying bounty but why in the market this project remains stable price. what do you think?
I agree with you , it's the most strange project I've ever seen , they are totally scam but somehow price of token is stable.Maybe traders use it only in pump and dump schemes? Just traders on the exchanges don't follow the news of the project. Also maybe someone is artificially keeping the price.
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zhongweitk
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July 04, 2018, 02:12:25 PM |
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I'm a miner and I'm excited about your project For us, the most important thing is energy I really hope you can develop equipment that will greatly improve our resource utilization
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memii
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July 04, 2018, 02:30:24 PM |
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It isn't about traders they don't follow the price. It is the source of updates which you have and many here don't have access to that. You should use source of information and let others to read and understand what is happening except the decision of court. That decision it itself has no impact on investors but good for founders. Don't you think they should hold press release or AMA session for their investors whose money is in this project ?
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publiccoin57
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July 04, 2018, 05:32:56 PM |
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if they accept your evn tokens is it for some reason right? maybe something for them has a future value ... maybe a juicy dividend you're almost giving away for another token
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July 04, 2018, 08:48:48 PM |
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I am surprised at this envion project that has so many problems in ICO, such as not returning investors and not paying bounty but why in the market this project remains stable price. what do you think?
I think it could be because the ICO funds are frozen by court order.
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July 05, 2018, 11:34:15 AM |
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Good summary of what went wrong with Envion (as we now so far): Here the list of Envion’s Big 5 Failures: 1) *Incomplete Prospectus* omitted the real picture of Envion’s behind-the-scenes corporate structure including involved key entities (Quadrat GmbH and Trado GmbH), the core business role of Trado (e.g. ICO, IP, token generation etc.), its shadow CEO Michael Luckow and related ‘founders’. Discrepancies exist between prospectus and whitepaper re shareholders and founders. Why the secrecy about real structure, shareholders and founders? 2) *Corporate Raiding* by CEO Mathias Woestmann and accomplices, abusing an inadequate corporate structure and allegedly trying to secretly sell Envion. Woestmann claims to have justification for his capital increase (which undoubtedly breached a Quadrat-Trado contract) but no hard evidence has been brought forward yet. Why the strange silence? Fraud? 3) *Insider Trading* by undisclosed ‘founders’ using a backdoor created via modifying the previously audited EVN smart contract. Tokens worth millions of US$ sold before end of an earlier in place and communicated 6 months lock period, via an undisclosed 3rd party. Investors were not informed upfront about smart contract manipulation or token sales. Exact amounts, use and whereabouts of resulting funds unknown. Why the secrecy? Fraud? 4) *Misleading Communications* towards investors overselling positive news (‘hardware arriving’, ‘production started’, ‘mining started’, LOIs etc.) and hiding factual ‘negative’ news (Enel and PWC drop off, fallout between CEO & founders, founders’ selling of tokens etc). Critical voices are banned from Telegram channels and critical media reports arrogantly dismissed as ‘irrelevant’. Complicit in fraud? 5) *No Mining, Huge Losses*. To date, instead of hundreds of mining units generating the heavily promoted 161% ROI, investors face up to 85% losses of their investments. Court cases between parties and investor protection lawsuits are underway, making it impossible to assess if there ever will be Envion mining payouts. One of the biggest ICO fails in history? Unless a major breakthrough surprisingly would happen, the conflict could go on for years. Looks like courts will now determine the fate of Envion. Source: https://medium.com/@franzemonaco/envions-big-5-failures-c8b60c07f079
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July 06, 2018, 04:34:04 AM |
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I am having trouble with them trying to disable 2FA while I switch phones. anyone have a solution?
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July 06, 2018, 11:30:20 AM |
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I am having trouble with them trying to disable 2FA while I switch phones. anyone have a solution?
Same here. Wrote support more than a week past. They wont reply and I cannot do it myself.
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saptadip
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July 06, 2018, 12:34:09 PM |
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I am having trouble with them trying to disable 2FA while I switch phones. anyone have a solution?
Same here. Wrote support more than a week past. They wont reply and I cannot do it myself. Not related to Envion, but if you are a techie guy or atleast know someone, then you can move your Google Authenticator credentials to a New Android Phone by following the below link: https://www.howtogeek.com/130755/how-to-move-your-google-authenticator-credentials-to-a-new-android-phone-or-tablet/so that you do not have to depend on Envion's (pathetic) support.
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phanhau608
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July 06, 2018, 12:35:04 PM |
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Good project
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phanhau608
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July 06, 2018, 01:05:04 PM |
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Good sound
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July 06, 2018, 06:56:27 PM |
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I am surprised at this envion project that has so many problems in ICO, such as not returning investors and not paying bounty but why in the market this project remains stable price. what do you think?
I think it could be because the ICO funds are frozen by court order. Maybe investors still believe in the success of this project.
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July 06, 2018, 07:29:14 PM |
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I am surprised at this envion project that has so many problems in ICO, such as not returning investors and not paying bounty but why in the market this project remains stable price. what do you think?
I think it could be because the ICO funds are frozen by court order. Maybe investors still believe in the success of this project. yes investors still believe in this project after ico ends some thing gone wrong with envion team and the project face some delays but now the prob is resolved. i think now envion team should gives a positive news about the project. i am waiting for that but their is still no news on social media about envion developments
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Ano
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July 06, 2018, 07:47:05 PM |
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Now it need to get listed on a good exchange it is suffering due to low volume even founders got favor from the court. I bought a lot of token with hope it will make wonderful comeback and get recover very soon just waiting for the next move from the team.
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July 07, 2018, 10:20:48 AM |
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I am surprised at this envion project that has so many problems in ICO, such as not returning investors and not paying bounty but why in the market this project remains stable price. what do you think?
I think it could be because the ICO funds are frozen by court order. Maybe investors still believe in the success of this project. yes investors still believe in this project after ico ends some thing gone wrong with envion team and the project face some delays but now the prob is resolved. i think now envion team should gives a positive news about the project. i am waiting for that but their is still no news on social media about envion developments I think investors still have faith because a lot of people still want the product. It's a lot harder to succeed if you have good managers with an unwanted product, than it is to succeed wit bad management and a wanted product. You can change the management easily
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