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May 30, 2015, 06:37:59 AM
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Hi!

Please add to OP new pool - http://aikapool.com/flo



Thanks!

Added, thank you.

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May 31, 2015, 12:25:45 AM
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Also, the Dev appears to be asking for donations to build this thing...
Should this project not be structured as an investment in some way?

It's possible that some people may think pay-as-you-go for "long tail" torrent content is a good long-term investment...
So why have you structured this as a "charity" with your group as the beneficiary? Or is it all an elaborate pump for FLO?

We're asking for donations because it isn't ready to be pitched as an investment at the moment. We are working on some things that we believe may make it an investable thing, and if we do, we'll let users who have donated know that they are eligible for a cut, and specifically announce the opportunity. Since that isn't in place yet, and we were in need of some financial support while we were finishing the beta, we made the request.

I'm done repeatedly defending that this project is not just some "elaborate pump for FLO" as a few folks like to call it. It will be released publicly soon enough, and you can make up your mind for yourself at that point. In the meanwhile, if people want to assume it is a pump, they're free to do so.

I think you're being a little thin-skinned about all this...
And are also conflating  what multiple people say as one voice...
Especially considering that your Business Model is unproven and open to discussion.

I've asked some legitimate questions about your project...
And in the last 2 posts you have given a lot of detailed info to multiple posters...
Information that is not clear if one just reads blocktech.com

And it's a fact that FLO has been the subject of a 1000% Pump...
Whether you are direct part of it or not... has no real bearing on this reality.

Since FLO is an unregistered, non-compliant security in terms of the SEC and FinCEN...
And since there are no specific regulations that apply the trading of unregistered securities...
It would just be par for the course if your group had bought several million FLO in March.

But this is all kid stuff...
Compared to the barracudas you will encounter a step up in the Venture Space...
Or the sharks that list and pump startup tech on junior exchanges around the world.

On the bright side...
You've already made enough waves that you should have no trouble financing this baby...
Regardless of whether a fully-DMCA compliant torrent site with "long tail" content would fly...
You certainly have a very good story to promote at this point... and it's all about the story before revenues commence.
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June 02, 2015, 04:30:58 PM
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Also, the Dev appears to be asking for donations to build this thing...
Should this project not be structured as an investment in some way?

It's possible that some people may think pay-as-you-go for "long tail" torrent content is a good long-term investment...
So why have you structured this as a "charity" with your group as the beneficiary? Or is it all an elaborate pump for FLO?

We're asking for donations because it isn't ready to be pitched as an investment at the moment. We are working on some things that we believe may make it an investable thing, and if we do, we'll let users who have donated know that they are eligible for a cut, and specifically announce the opportunity. Since that isn't in place yet, and we were in need of some financial support while we were finishing the beta, we made the request.

I'm done repeatedly defending that this project is not just some "elaborate pump for FLO" as a few folks like to call it. It will be released publicly soon enough, and you can make up your mind for yourself at that point. In the meanwhile, if people want to assume it is a pump, they're free to do so.

I think you're being a little thin-skinned about all this...
And are also conflating  what multiple people say as one voice...
Especially considering that your Business Model is unproven and open to discussion.

I've asked some legitimate questions about your project...
And in the last 2 posts you have given a lot of detailed info to multiple posters...
Information that is not clear if one just reads blocktech.com

And it's a fact that FLO has been the subject of a 1000% Pump...
Whether you are direct part of it or not... has no real bearing on this reality.

Since FLO is an unregistered, non-compliant security in terms of the SEC and FinCEN...
And since there are no specific regulations that apply the trading of unregistered securities...
It would just be par for the course if your group had bought several million FLO in March.

But this is all kid stuff...
Compared to the barracudas you will encounter a step up in the Venture Space...
Or the sharks that list and pump startup tech on junior exchanges around the world.

On the bright side...
You've already made enough waves that you should have no trouble financing this baby...
Regardless of whether a fully-DMCA compliant torrent site with "long tail" content would fly...
You certainly have a very good story to promote at this point... and it's all about the story before revenues commence.

someone forgot to take their meds

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June 02, 2015, 05:08:51 PM
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Also, the Dev appears to be asking for donations to build this thing...
Should this project not be structured as an investment in some way?

It's possible that some people may think pay-as-you-go for "long tail" torrent content is a good long-term investment...
So why have you structured this as a "charity" with your group as the beneficiary? Or is it all an elaborate pump for FLO?

We're asking for donations because it isn't ready to be pitched as an investment at the moment. We are working on some things that we believe may make it an investable thing, and if we do, we'll let users who have donated know that they are eligible for a cut, and specifically announce the opportunity. Since that isn't in place yet, and we were in need of some financial support while we were finishing the beta, we made the request.

I'm done repeatedly defending that this project is not just some "elaborate pump for FLO" as a few folks like to call it. It will be released publicly soon enough, and you can make up your mind for yourself at that point. In the meanwhile, if people want to assume it is a pump, they're free to do so.

I think you're being a little thin-skinned about all this...
And are also conflating  what multiple people say as one voice...
Especially considering that your Business Model is unproven and open to discussion.

I've asked some legitimate questions about your project...
And in the last 2 posts you have given a lot of detailed info to multiple posters...
Information that is not clear if one just reads blocktech.com

And it's a fact that FLO has been the subject of a 1000% Pump...
Whether you are direct part of it or not... has no real bearing on this reality.

Since FLO is an unregistered, non-compliant security in terms of the SEC and FinCEN...
And since there are no specific regulations that apply the trading of unregistered securities...
It would just be par for the course if your group had bought several million FLO in March.

But this is all kid stuff...
Compared to the barracudas you will encounter a step up in the Venture Space...
Or the sharks that list and pump startup tech on junior exchanges around the world.

On the bright side...
You've already made enough waves that you should have no trouble financing this baby...
Regardless of whether a fully-DMCA compliant torrent site with "long tail" content would fly...
You certainly have a very good story to promote at this point... and it's all about the story before revenues commence.

someone forgot to take their meds

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June 02, 2015, 10:11:59 PM
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Today I got a positive response from both Bittrex and Poloniex about the public API project.


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June 04, 2015, 02:23:02 PM
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"And it's a fact that FLO has been the subject of a 1000% Pump..."

A pump with no dump is no pump.  It's called an investment.  I've never sold 1 coin, not one.  Long term = accumulate.

FYI: the entire visible Cryptsy sell book is 700618.13610934
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June 07, 2015, 04:26:28 PM
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A big shout out to whoever pumped LOT and tripled my coins.  I sold at the high and picked up 500k more FLO :-)

https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/LOT_LTC
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June 07, 2015, 09:38:52 PM
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"And it's a fact that FLO has been the subject of a 1000% Pump..."

A pump with no dump is no pump.  It's called an investment.  I've never sold 1 coin, not one.  Long term = accumulate.

FYI: the entire visible Cryptsy sell book is 700618.13610934

FLO is not integral to Alexandria... it can be replaced at any time with an anon coin or Gen 2.0 crypto-currency...
The 528 char tx payload is dwarfed by, for example, NXT pruneable tx storage and whatever else is out there in 2015...
In fact, the claim "cannot be taken down" is absurd if the system runs on a circa 2013 coin.

I was just pointing out some wild inconsistencies in Alexandria info... when everybody got hysterical and lost their cookies.









Full DMCA and government compliance is inconsistent with "no one can censor them"...
And the entire project comes to a dead stop upon legal action against the Devon Read group...
So, at best, you have obscure "long tail" content that hardly anyone is looking for... no Top 1000 torrents.

Regardless, there are variations of this project that may work very well long term (as explained above)...
But there is no way to invest directly in the project... therefore FLO = 1000% pump or a ultra-high risk speculation.


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June 08, 2015, 12:15:03 AM
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"And it's a fact that FLO has been the subject of a 1000% Pump..."

A pump with no dump is no pump.  It's called an investment.  I've never sold 1 coin, not one.  Long term = accumulate.

FYI: the entire visible Cryptsy sell book is 700618.13610934

Full DMCA and government compliance is inconsistent with "no one can censor them"...
And the entire project comes to a dead stop upon legal action against the Devon Read group...
So, at best, you have obscure "long tail" content that hardly anyone is looking for... no Top 1000 torrents.
 


Because the lawsuits against bittorrent are going sooo well. Huh


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June 09, 2015, 10:02:22 PM
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Hi Florincoin fans! If you'd like to check out Alexandria for yourself, you can now download an alpha build of the browser here: http://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmWQCM7jewQFRCC5is8sau6My9RY1ctY9vyeyZEhQckkLo

With it, you'll be able to explore the contents of the library, enjoy embedded content and send tips to publishers with Bitcoin! Just pick the appropriate build for your OS, right click and save-as to download it, unzip it, and open to enjoy the contents of the Decentralized Library of Alexandria.

Please note: VLC plugin is built into OSX client, but Windows and Linux users will need to install VLC (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/) on their computers before being able to enjoy streaming video or audio. This will be built into the browser for Win & Linux soon.

We want your feedback! Got bug reports? Feature requests? Helpful suggestions? Please visit our Github Issues page (https://github.com/dloa/alexandria-docs/issues) to submit them. Alexandria's known issues and version history can be found here: https://github.com/dloa/alexandria-docs/blob/master/version-notes-and-issues.md.



If you'd like to send comments with your tips, or trade some BTC for FLO through Alexandria's tradebot, you'll also need to install a Florincoin wallet. Links to download and install the wallet client for your OS can be found at www.florincoin.org.

To publish artifacts to the library or to use Alexandria in a completely "serverless" way, you'll need to install some additional daemons and to do so, you'll need to join our alpha - just send metacoin or myself a PM to get an invite.
 
If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out and if you're interested in learning about how you can support Alexandria's continued development, please visit www.blocktech.com
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June 09, 2015, 11:22:10 PM
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"Login to Florincoin Wallet"
not work??
"+ Create New Address"
not work??

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June 10, 2015, 12:02:47 AM
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"Login to Florincoin Wallet"
not work??
"+ Create New Address"
not work??

you'll need the florincoin wallet installed, you'll need a florincoin.conf file in your florincoin folder (on mac: ~/Library/Application Support/Florincoin/) with the following content:

rpcuser=fill-in-a-username
rpcpassword=fill-in-a-password
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcallowip=192.168.*.*
rpcport=18322
server=1
daemon=1
txindex=1


please note: if you make this file with text-edit (on mac) it may try to make the filename florincoin.conf.txt - that won't work.

Anyway, once you have that set up, open and sync your wallet and then your Alexandria browser will let you log into your wallet and create new addresses (and send Tips over FLO that include comments, and use the trade-bot (the "buy more" button in the wallet))
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June 10, 2015, 02:20:28 PM
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THE ALEXANDRIA INTERVIEW: REBUILDING THE GREAT LIBRARY
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http://n-o-d-e.net/post/121174769401/the-alexandria-interview-rebuilding-the-great

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June 13, 2015, 07:54:27 PM
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Slightly concerned I may have fucked something up.

I pointed a big ass rig at it and now the mining pool is throwing some serious skitzo shit.


Edit:  Actually looking ok now. Shit just kinda freaked out for a second.

All is good

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June 17, 2015, 01:36:30 AM
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So we will able to upload HD movies.
What is download and upload rate from Alexandria ?
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June 17, 2015, 06:44:09 AM
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So we will able to upload HD movies.
What is download and upload rate from Alexandria ?


Since Alexandria users don't download from a web server with known bandwidth limits, that's not really something that can be quantified very well - it will vary depending on what piece of media you're downloading and how many other users are currently seeding it.



Now my caveat is that right now the "it just works" version of the Alexandria browser defaults to "Gateways" so that users don't have to install all of the daemons necessary to run things in an entirely p2p way - so those users *would* in fact be using web servers for downloading, but since there will be many gateway options available and users will be able to switch between them in their preferences, it would again be pretty impossible to actually say what the dl or ul rate is for Alexandria in general.

(edit, added this) Oh, all that said - we've generally found that with ~10 or so seeders with a average speed internet connection, an HD movie or FLAC audio file can start streaming pretty much right away.
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June 18, 2015, 05:21:26 AM
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Cool, how about if I have a giga bit server that upload the movies, then other will streaming it online, is it make different than my home PC like 50mb/s ?
Or still calculate through the combine seed actual online at that time ?
This is very interested.
Is it RPi 2 seed vs PC seed ( p2p ) , any of those make different from streaming speed ?
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June 18, 2015, 08:27:07 PM
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Cool, how about if I have a giga bit server that upload the movies, then other will streaming it online, is it make different than my home PC like 50mb/s ?
Or still calculate through the combine seed actual online at that time ?
This is very interested.
Is it RPi 2 seed vs PC seed ( p2p ) , any of those make different from streaming speed ?

These are good questions, thanks for reminding me to test Alexandria out on my RPi 2.

Bandwidth questions about streaming quality / seeding mechanics are not known to me at this time. Perhaps I can look deeper into the IPFS codebase to figure it out. (We've switched from BitTorrent to IPFS recently).

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June 18, 2015, 08:54:32 PM
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Finally a coin I've bought that is becoming really big!! Good job with alexandria!


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June 25, 2015, 03:10:59 PM
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We've got one Alexandria node recording historical market data from Cryptsy, Bittrex, and Poloniex Smiley

http://florincoin.info/explorer/messages/

I'll offer 70,000 FLO for anyone who builds an open-source web application (javascript would be a good choice) that can take an array of these JSON strings and turn it into a nice looking graph (using d3 or highcharts or something similar).


Example JSON string:

Code:
{"alexandria-history-record-datapoint":{"title":"FloMarketData","address":"FF9r36Ua3Ds4itz29hzbfqjkMpoTZ8HEqT","timestamp":"1435242572","api":"http://colorcoin.org:41290/flo-market-data/v1/getAll","unixtime":1435242563,"cryptsy":"0.0865","poloniex":"0.2139","bittrex":"0.6996","daily-volume":"190266.31250000","weighted":"0.00000751","USD":"0.00185"},"signature":"H2N9+nFzO/p2FB7QbzuvcwFbJV88pI9ocZdZGAERIs2/OrK5RZ658BlAPLqmIjT22rBYSAhS19AJFRwCxVoN/B4="}

If you want to run your own market data indexing program, check out https://github.com/metacoin/flo-market-data -- the source code for the Alexandria node (the part that publishes to the blockchain) will be available soon.

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