Recieved 50GH BFL Single Today!

[Red_Wolf_2]

This assclown we know as Josh,i'm totally convinced that he is a sociopath or border line to being one.

Yep, BFL is a lethal danger to Bitcoin. They have too much power now and are totally corrupt liars. Those crooks must be stopped before ruining Bitcoin. It is not a coincidence that Litecoin is attracting more and more attention everyday.

OK, seriously, how is BFL a "lethal danger" to Bitcoin? Assoles, sure, but a "lethal danger", no way. The output of Avalon (particularly the chip buys) and ASICMiner is going to quickly outstrip BFL's output, so even if they stopped shipping their units and attempted to 51% attack, that wouldn't go anywhere.

BFL has taken in more money than Avalon and ASICMiner combined together.

We all know when you have more money in a particular market,you have more control

and influence.I remember back in the 90's Microsoft won the battle with Netscape by giving kickbacks

to vendors who adopted Internet Explorer.

Point being, BFL currently rules with an iron fist in the BTC mining industry.

ASICMiner currently has a low GH/s per dollar ratio,compared to BFL's ASIC's

Avalon's ASIC's has a high power consumption,and low per GH/s per dollar compared some BFL's ASIC's.

This is one reason why BFL focused on low power consumption,and high GH/s,because it appears

to be something not quite easy for ASIC vendors to currently do.That gives BFL an edge over all the current competition.

Err... Yeah, but unlike Avalon and ASICMiner, BFL have been late to the party. Unlike the browser wars where Microsoft used their clout with software licensing of Windows to force IE on everyone (or risk not being allowed to sell/distribute Windows, which would basically kill any builder company), this industry is very different. Money goes to those who get product in the wild first, those who join late literally miss out, due to the difficulty rise. BFL's only saving grace longer term at this point is that their chips are more efficient, so will continue to be profitable for longer than Avalon and equivalent chips.

I'd strongly recommend you take a few steps back, relax a little and consider things more objectively and less crazily. Next thing we know you'll be bringing out references to Freemasons, CIA conspiracies and if we're really lucky, rainbows in water sprinklers like that crazy girl on youtube who reckons the US Govt is brainwashing people with stuff in the water.

I beg to differ,BFL has came out ahead by taking in more money than AsicMiner and Avalon and not delivering even half of the hardware

currently on pre-order damn near a year later,and still accepting money for pre-orders.

It doesn't take an Actuary to figure out who's gaining and who's losing.



And you're telling me that Bill Gates wasn't abusive with power to where the Department filed charges against

Microsoft?

Google: "United States v. Microsoft Corporation"


And you recommend that i relax and take a step back?

I recommend you grow some testicles and step up and see things for what they really are.


The NSA been spying on people since Bush signed the Patriot Act,but it was nay sayers

like you that suffered from Cognitive Dissonance.And now Edward Snowden confirmed it.

I guess it's a theory that BFL has all their customer's best interest in mind

and that we should be more patient,and be grateful that BFL has never lied and

has  always been open and honest with all of it's customers.And BFL isn't and never will

scam all of it's customers,and put it's customers first because they are really nice fun loving people?

The NSA has been spying... Amazingly I really don't care. Bleat about civil rights and the constitution? Again I don't care, because I'm not American, and if you actually read the constitution of my country it has no specific sections regarding the rights of the individual (not surprising given how it was founded).
I do see things for what they really are. I'd have been amazed if the NSA/CIA/Whatever had NOT been spying, after all that is what they exist for. It would be naive to expect they wouldn't be recording things. That isn't cognitive dissonance (which would be an accurate description if I genuinely believed the NSA were not spying), its just cynicism. I would expect that all similar organisations of the world superpowers would be doing exactly the same thing.

My point with BFL is that no sane business would aim to make customers hate them. Its unprofitable to operate that way. They would want to deliver a product as quickly and effectively as possible in order to crush competition and ensure they gain the maximum market share and hence, profit. By your understanding, they currently exist to alienate their customers, abuse those who made pre-orders and deliver nothing except to their friends and family? Any organisation in the western world that operates that way either has to be truly massive, or it will die pretty quickly as their customer base dries up and competition develops. In addition, being based in a country rife with litigation, the risk would be enormous. No sane business would operate in the US if they were going to pull that kind of stunt. Instead they would operate out of somewhere such as China, where litigation paths are distinctly more limited for non-Chinese.

[becoin]

I'd have been amazed if the NSA/CIA/Whatever had NOT been spying, after all that is what they exist for. It would be naive to expect they wouldn't be recording things.

So, NSA/CIA/Whatever exist to violate the US Constitution in every possible way? And people that think this is wrong are... naive? And you claim that you're in your right mind?

It is amazing how all BFL sock puppets think about BFL customers in general. Greedy sheeple that have to be milked in every possible way. Why don't you show some imagination guys? Are you approved for your job after some beauty asshole contest?

[Red_Wolf_2]

I'd have been amazed if the NSA/CIA/Whatever had NOT been spying, after all that is what they exist for. It would be naive to expect they wouldn't be recording things.

So, NSA/CIA/Whatever exist to violate the US Constitution in every possible way? And people that think this is wrong are... naive? And you claim that you're in your right mind?

It is amazing how all BFL sock puppets think about BFL customers in general. Greedy sheeple that have to be milked in every possible way. Why don't you show some imagination guys? Are you approved for your job after some beauty asshole contest?

I'm not american, nor in america, so my level of caring regarding american civil rights is really rather minimal. I'm more interested in what goes on in my own country. With the way politics are shaping up here, it could easily become a new reality TV show, if for the fact it already is real.

I never said what the agencies are doing is ok, I did however say I expected such behavior from them, anything less would be either negligent or suspicious, after all, what would a spy be doing if not spying? Probably something worse.

I don't disagree that it has been a hard time for BFL customers, after all, I am one and have had an order since last year. I have no problem understanding the frustration out there because I too find it frustrating. That said, I am not one of the ones here spewing out vile insults and comments. I've approached everything on here in a level-headed albeit cynical way, and have rarely resorted to name-calling, or comparing people to abortions or any other number of pretty disturbing and disgusting things.

Are you all really that immature? Or is it just greed turning you all into petulant children screaming because you didn't get your icecream when you expected it? I'm not quite sure how all this becomes conspiracy theories such as those that some of the stranger individuals have posted, all I can guess is that it comes with the territory...

[ThatDGuy]

Are you all really that immature? Or is it just greed turning you all into petulant children screaming because you didn't get your icecream when you expected it? I'm not quite sure how all this becomes conspiracy theories such as those that some of the stranger individuals have posted, all I can guess is that it comes with the territory...

Most BFL threads that go on more than a page or two end up this way, unfortunately.  Rife with conspiracies, and the word "sockpuppet" thrown around.

The history of this particular thread and Garr's actions highlight how these are occasionally psychological projections of the individual.

[Korbman]

Are you all really that immature? Or is it just greed turning you all into petulant children screaming because you didn't get your icecream when you expected it? I'm not quite sure how all this becomes conspiracy theories such as those that some of the stranger individuals have posted, all I can guess is that it comes with the territory...

Most BFL threads that go on more than a page or two end up this way, unfortunately.  Rife with conspiracies, and the word "sockpuppet" thrown around.

This thread went to shit by the third page, and has only gotten worse from there. It has, however, been a party for my ignore list

I'm actually kind of surprised this hasn't been locked yet..

[VeeMiner]

what I am actually interested in is when more singles will be shipped. I mean as far as I know BFL shipped 2 singles (two in words) - that's TWO - T W O singles. the rest will ship in two weeks or what?

[Flashman]

Annnd I think we're getting into the realms of Poes law here....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

It being now impossible to tell the merely underinformed, from the conspiracy nuts and deliberate trolls.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Annnd I think we're getting into the realms of Poes law here....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

It being now impossible to tell the merely underinformed, from the conspiracy nuts and deliberate trolls.

I guess that makes me a Google-fu conspiracy nut.

[boonies4u]

Annnd I think we're getting into the realms of Poes law here....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

It being now impossible to tell the merely underinformed, from the conspiracy nuts and deliberate trolls.

Reminds me of Grey's Law
http://wikidumper.blogspot.com/2007/07/greys-law.html

"Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice."

[ThatDGuy]

Annnd I think we're getting into the realms of Poes law here....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

It being now impossible to tell the merely underinformed, from the conspiracy nuts and deliberate trolls.

Reminds me of Grey's Law
http://wikidumper.blogspot.com/2007/07/greys-law.html

"Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice."

Learning about lots of neat laws in this thread - honestly surprised after 613 posts we haven't seen Godwin's Law yet.

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches."

[temporary anomymous]

Josh how in the hell i knew you or a shill from BFL was going to say the photo was Photoshopped?

Because you're a nutcase?

And mind you i can tell when something has been Photoshopped.

Oh clearly... I mean, it's not like it's a mirror image of the image on this page or anything: http://www.butterflylabs.com/  Even the logo and lettering is on the wrong side and reversed.  Yep, you're sure one hell of an internet detective.

But let's just say if it is,how do you explain this individual knowing what the revised cases for the 60GH/s Singles looked like at that time?

Oh... I don't know, maybe because we started posting pictures in APRIL of 2013

Here's another person stating on BFL forums that singles went out.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=203881
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/2651-bfl-30gh-s-asic-mining-now-dev-promo-copy.html#post32364

You went out of your way to deny those and now this.

Yes, because Milkshake is a play on Smoothie, a known troll and lunatic on these forums, perhaps you're familiar with him.  

I hope those of you pay close attention at the dates of thos threads and this

ad:http://paris.en.craigslist.fr/ele/3829355665.html

What do they have in common?

All in the month of May,which indicates to me that there was a shipment of BFL ASIC's

Yes, all in the month of may, so that logically follows that there was a shipment in May, after we had posted pictures in April.  Of course!  Silly me!  The logic, it blinds!

in May to a selected few or many Before BFL officially stated that they shipped out Singles.The only reason you jackasses at BFL ship out his orders because he made

such a large order and Paypal got on yall asses to ship out the order dated "June 12 2012" according to the invoice.

Hate to break it to you, but 5 Singles is not a large order.  We wern't even taking orders on June 12 of 2012, nor did we have 60 GH/s available at the time or even on the 23rd (they were 40 GH/s).

And i'm sure you bastards cut all kinds of deals behind closed doors with your cronies and "developers" that got discounts/free ASIC's

and have them agreed to keep quite and mine while you and they drive up the fucking difficulty before we get our goddamn ASIC's.The spike in

difficulty is due to ASIC's you all at BFL have shipped out incognito back in May.And the Fed's cracking down on Mt.Gox, those of us here in the US have to now submit paperwork because BFL's cronies and

"developers" that got ASIC's are cashing in BTC like chips at a Vegas casino.

You're sure of that, are you?  Well, guess we know how much you know: Jack and Shit and Jack left town about 2 hours ago.

So fuck you Josh,and you tell Jody i said fuck her as well,because in the history of the internet,there's never been a company that was legit

and failed to deliver something within 11 months after taking pre-order money from it's customers.

Cry me a river, then build a bridge and get over it.  I'd give you a quarter to get you started if I could.

Even back in the day Paypal completely unfroze accounts with funds in it after 6 months.

Unfreeze the goddamn ASIC's you currently have in stock and stop feeding us bullshit,week after week,month after month.
Josh you and Jody destroyed yall credibility ,we're just customers waiting on BFL ASIC's.
You've made some of us look like fools to peers, family/friends,for failure to deliver on your promises.

No, you've made yourself look like a fool, I had nothing to do with it.

As far as i'm concerned i believe nothing of what i read from you and only half of what i

see coming from you.

This doesn't even make sense...

PS - learn to use proper spacing.

Once again, give respect, get respect.  You've failed so far.

Not as hard as you. Not even close.

Oooo burn!

Josh you have the nerve to call me a nutt case?

There's a difference between being a nutt case than someone thats

being pissed off about being ripped off and lied to about promised delivery of ASIC hardware.

You mutha fucker's at BFL tell lies for a whole week,just to cover the one's from the previous week .

You ran out of lies and you out of excuses.You arrogant asses have the nerve to give youselves

pats on the back when you're not clearing half of the backlog of pre-orders from last year,

and find glory in donating $120000 in BTC to a fucking charity.There would'nt be no

bitcoin period without miners like us, you all at BFL lying to and fucking over everyday.

And one has to wonder where did the BTC come from?Our ASIC's?

Or how about the miners who paid in BTC who did'nt get a refund at the BTC exhange spot price?


And lets talk about the revised Singles pics,in which the original link to the page was moved or deleted

And yes you are correct but i don't remember seeing a posted pic of the redesigned Singles But you failed to mention on what date,


On April 28th you described it by stating:

"Side fans will be 120mm in a push/pull configuration. There is the option to also put 92mm fans on
the tops of the heatsinks that are inside the unit. Connectors will be PCIe 6 pin x 2 per 120 GH. External
power brick included with each unit."
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/2050-new-case-singles-6.html#post27585

Your statement corroborates with what i'm saying which a shipment of ASIC Jalapenos Little Singles and revised Singles

went out in Early May.Even codinginmysleep even made a video on youtube unboxing a Jalapenos

in May,so Josh i suppose those individuals faked and made up lies and pics about receiving ASIC's in May?

Why a spike in the mining difficulty by the fucking millions if you all at BFL did'nt ship out Little Singles and

Singles? Avalon and Asicminer been mining all this year and haven't been driving up the difficulty

at the rate it's been going up since the end of April.

Josh the more i communicate with you the more pissed off i get.

You and BFL shamed those of us BTC miners in America with your shady and unethical practices,as well as  some of the bitcoin community.

Those of us who did pre-order are the laughing stock over at AsicMiner and Avalon camps.

and even on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ERE4uiufqE

Josh if the Fed's charge and convict you and BFL just on (fraud alone)

I hope the judge deny you bail and order you to share a cell with a "Fleece Johnson"

that bend you over and bust your asshole wide open in that jail cell every night.


And you know what Josh?

I noticed BFL already purchased the domain names bflsucks.com

and bflsucks.net.

Very clever.

[eve]

where is Josh, they seem to be some serious accusations about you?

[allten]

Hey Alten,

How is the box for heat? Any issues? Uptime etc?

No Issues. It's been really good to me. It is a solid product.
Wish I had my kilowatt meter, but the exhaust air is not much
warmer than the air going in. i think that is a good sign.

Finally put it back up for sale like I said I would other than its a week later:
https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/41878-54-gh-s-bitforce-single-shipping-now

[Gomeler]

Hey Alten,

How is the box for heat? Any issues? Uptime etc?

No Issues. It's been really good to me. It is a solid product.
Wish I had my kilowatt meter, but the exhaust air is not much
warmer than the air going in. i think that is a good sign.

Finally put it back up for sale like I said I would other than its a week later:
https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/41878-54-gh-s-bitforce-single-shipping-now

Are you going to take whatever offer shows up on bitmit or are you still doing the 25k minimum, otherwise mine thing?

[nottm28]

I'm not allowed to argue the multiple accounts issue, because I want to keep my preorder.

What is there to argue? You already admitted that Werner, who has stopped posting since one minute after the post in this thread is you.

    Sorry for calling you liars. Werner is a sock puppet account under my control. Sorry for utilizing said account to "troll" you.

                                         With regret,
                                                     Garr255

+1

[EDIT] now go back and carry on reading from page 15 or so - so far I have seen all the usual bfl haters do their usual stuff - I loved the way Garr was caught blatently lying. Still havent found out why the 20k ebay price never happened and now why it's 2k on bitmit - love it

[SLok]

Josh you have the nerve to call me a nutt case?

There's a difference between being a nutt case than someone thats

blablabla

Funny, the same double lined posts as this tool: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=49994;sa=showPosts
Frizz23, again?

[nottm28]

Jesus finally got to the end of the thread - had to skip most of K9's otherwise would have been here all night - besides there's never anything new in a K9 post.

@OP - you should have took the 20k on ebay - I doubt you'll get near that on bitmit.

[k9quaint]

Jesus finally got to the end of the thread - had to skip most of K9's otherwise would have been here all night - besides there's never anything new in a K9 post.

@OP - you should have took the 20k on ebay - I doubt you'll get near that on bitmit.

Typical. You can't even stand to see the facts. You have to hide from them.
Then again, if you BFL fanbois were not so resistant to facts, I wouldn't have to post them over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over ad infinitum.

[nottm28]

Jesus finally got to the end of the thread - had to skip most of K9's otherwise would have been here all night - besides there's never anything new in a K9 post.

@OP - you should have took the 20k on ebay - I doubt you'll get near that on bitmit.

Typical. You can't even stand to see the facts. You have to hide from them.
Then again, if you BFL fanbois were not so resistant to facts, I wouldn't have to post them over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over ad infinitum.

Man you nag on

[k9quaint]

Jesus finally got to the end of the thread - had to skip most of K9's otherwise would have been here all night - besides there's never anything new in a K9 post.

@OP - you should have took the 20k on ebay - I doubt you'll get near that on bitmit.

Typical. You can't even stand to see the facts. You have to hide from them.
Then again, if you BFL fanbois were not so resistant to facts, I wouldn't have to post them over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over ad infinitum.

Man you nag on

I have a lot of patience. Wouldn't want some neophyte to read your drivel and decide to waste their money on BFL.