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Author Topic: will the bitcoin reach $1000 one day...?  (Read 112610 times)
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December 23, 2013, 08:26:37 PM
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*facepalm* Ok, one by one...

It's "rarity" will not be reached until 2140? aka we will all be dead before all the bitcoins are mined.
Yep, 21million bitcoins that will not be mined till 2140.
I will be dead long before Bitcoins are actually rare.

Bitcoin is rare at every point in time between now and 2140. Right now, no more than X bitcoins can exist. Period. Tomorrow, no more than X+3,600 bitcoins can exist. Period. Their supply is constrained, and thus they are rare, unlike, say, USD that can theoretically have an unlimited supply and created in any arbitrary amount at any point in time.
Using your claim, I can say that gold is not rare, and its "rarity" will not be reached until all the gold in our solar system is mined, which will likely be beyond 2140.

No, Gold is used because unlike iron it will not rust.
Unlike copper Gold will not turn your finger green.
Gold makes better jewelery that lasts longer.

Plenty of metals do not rust, do not turn fiingers green, and last for a very long time. Like Aluminum for example. Or brass. The only reason hold is worth more than those other metals is because it is rare, aka limited in supply.
Likewise, Bitcoin is used because it is decentralized
Unlike fiat, bitcoin has no counterparty risk
Bitcoin makes better money, because it is not based on debt, and can be programmed to do things money by itself can't.

Where can I spend a BTC?

At over 20,000 different merchants. Thanks to services like Gyft, that even includes Amazon and Target, where you can buy almost anything you need.

Can I buy a burger for BTC?

Yep. From Burger King, Red Robin, Applebees, TGI Fridays, and directly for a bunch of restaurants around the world.

Can I trade a BTC for a beer?

Yep. There are plenty of bars around the world that accept bitcoin directly. One just started taking them in Baltimore just two weeks ago.

On the other hand I could easily trade a gold necklace for a keg,
Or a few bags of burgers.

Walk into a Burger King, and give them this proposition. IF they do take your gold, chances are you will severely overpay for those things, compared to gold's actual exchange rate. If only because it's a pain in the butt to convert gold back to fiat.

Right, It has a bunch of nice qualities for a currency, and nothing you can spend that currency on.
At the moment you can basically buy drugs with bitcoins or gamble with bitcoins.

And this is why you fail so embarasingly bad. You are making the typical mistake of looking at bitcoin as a funny internet currency, and are not even bothering to look at where it can be spent, let alone what it can actually do.
First of all, at the moment, I can basically live off of bitcoin entirely, and aside froom having to use my credit card for gas, I actually do, as do many other people. And second, bitcoin is not a "currency," it's a globally distributed asset ledger. We can use bitcoin coins as currency, or we can use bitcoin coins as tokens to represent something else. Think of ANYTHING that requires proof of ownership representing an asset. Title to a house or a car, gold backed currency, commodity ETFs, stocks, bonds, you name it. All of that can be linked to a fraction of a bitcoin, and be traded on the blockchain directly, making the jobs of notaries, trust lawyers, title storage services, investment banks, brokerages, and many other financial system positions obsolete. Until you realize this, you don't understand what bitcoin even is, let alone what it is worth.

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teach these guys a lesson or two

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December 23, 2013, 08:29:08 PM
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I think it will raise and raise far over $1000 in long term.
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December 23, 2013, 08:36:54 PM
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I guess it depends on government. It is possible that BTC will be prohibited by law. In this case no coin will reach $1k. No demand - no offers.

Other way is more bright, because if everything go well we will get highly valued coin Wink So, don't sell your coins and wait. Because someday I will not even find it at normal price.

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December 23, 2013, 08:48:50 PM
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i find it is good that we came down a little bit ti rise again.
I think we will see 1000 again in the Q1 of 2014.

will se. I do not sell any of my coins.
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December 23, 2013, 08:57:35 PM
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I think Bitcoin will rise steadily 2014. People needed the money for Christmas and new year so that's the cause of the crash in my opinion.
Unless another big news will come for bitcoin (like the US bans the use of it or something like that) it is not going to crash and be worthless.
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December 23, 2013, 10:06:26 PM
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I think Bitcoin will rise steadily 2014. People needed the money for Christmas and new year so that's the cause of the crash in my opinion.
Unless another big news will come for bitcoin (like the US bans the use of it or something like that) it is not going to crash and be worthless.

I dont think any government can ban it unless they unplug the internet.  Its a protocol based on trust, utility and security and all 3 of those improve each day.  The key to success is that some large business's (like Baidu in China) accept it and lend some legitimacy to it.
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December 23, 2013, 10:08:55 PM
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I think it will hit a thousand dollars. It has, and I think it will again given some time.

It already appears to be (unsteadily) climbing back up to that thousand dollar mark.
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December 23, 2013, 10:28:02 PM
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I think Bitcoin will rise steadily 2014. People needed the money for Christmas and new year so that's the cause of the crash in my opinion.
Unless another big news will come for bitcoin (like the US bans the use of it or something like that) it is not going to crash and be worthless.

I dont think any government can ban it unless they unplug the internet.  Its a protocol based on trust, utility and security and all 3 of those improve each day.  The key to success is that some large business's (like Baidu in China) accept it and lend some legitimacy to it.

Bitcoin can be banned, it would cripple the adoption of Bitcoin, but still some would use Bitcoin

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December 23, 2013, 11:34:28 PM
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I heard in news bitcoin will reach $98500 one day ...
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December 24, 2013, 12:12:06 PM
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*facepalm* Ok, one by one...
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Bitcoin makes better money, because it is not based on debt
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This is really well put.
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December 24, 2013, 12:41:00 PM
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I heard in news bitcoin will reach $98500 one day ...

And this was based on?
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December 24, 2013, 02:39:08 PM
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Within a year or two, I think. With the caveat it might also drop to zero.

I agree, if bitcoin doesn't fail and drop to $0, it will absolutely reach $1000, and almost certainly reach $10,000.

10,000??! That's kind of a stretch, though bitcoin will remain as a primarily accepted universal cryptocoin
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December 24, 2013, 02:39:35 PM
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It already hit 1000 one day....but now its down again Sad
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December 24, 2013, 02:51:01 PM
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I wonder whether it will actually pass the 1500 dollar barrier. Sure Bitcoin is well known by the public, but the other coins (which are currently growing faster than grass) will make it harder for the main public to understand what is happening. For example, try and explain the difference between bitcoin and litecoin or for (not yet an existing coin like bidscoin). So in the end, with all the alt coins, we are killing the Bitcoin ourselves. I doubt the bank or the government will have to do anything...
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December 24, 2013, 03:07:29 PM
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It could when dollar/euro/poundsterling collapse.
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December 24, 2013, 06:33:30 PM
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Within a year or two, I think. With the caveat it might also drop to zero.

I agree, if bitcoin doesn't fail and drop to $0, it will absolutely reach $1000, and almost certainly reach $10,000.

10,000??! That's kind of a stretch, though bitcoin will remain as a primarily accepted universal cryptocoin

I see no reason that the value of a mBTC can't grow from it's current $0.70 to $10.00. It already reached $1.20 about a month ago. Does $10 really sound like such a huge number that it's "kind of a stretch?"
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December 25, 2013, 07:50:44 AM
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Time will tell what happens. I see no changes in Bitcoin's prospects. It has only become better the last few months.

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December 25, 2013, 09:13:43 AM
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All Crypto currencies, including bitcoin are volatile - it can easily have a range between $1200 and $600.
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December 25, 2013, 09:22:40 AM
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I wonder whether it will actually pass the 1500 dollar barrier. Sure Bitcoin is well known by the public, but the other coins (which are currently growing faster than grass) will make it harder for the main public to understand what is happening. For example, try and explain the difference between bitcoin and litecoin or for (not yet an existing coin like bidscoin). So in the end, with all the alt coins, we are killing the Bitcoin ourselves. I doubt the bank or the government will have to do anything...

I dont think altcoins make any difference, all you can do with altcoins is trade for Bitcoins anyway

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December 25, 2013, 05:44:24 PM
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I think Bitcoin will rise steadily 2014. People needed the money for Christmas and new year so that's the cause of the crash in my opinion.
Unless another big news will come for bitcoin (like the US bans the use of it or something like that) it is not going to crash and be worthless.

I dont think any government can ban it unless they unplug the internet.  Its a protocol based on trust, utility and security and all 3 of those improve each day.  The key to success is that some large business's (like Baidu in China) accept it and lend some legitimacy to it.

Bitcoin can be banned, it would cripple the adoption of Bitcoin, but still some would use Bitcoin

Outright banning Bitcoin forces governments to show their hand in a way that crushes the pretension that we are not in a completely totalitarian world, which is socially-desirable because it would encourage the overthrow of such regimes.
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