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Author Topic: [ANN] Bitfury ASIC sales in EU and Europe  (Read 250419 times)
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July 13, 2013, 03:33:06 PM
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Anyone see this nice Bitcoin difficulty predictor? Looks like October might bring a difficulty over 100 million!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmXn4BnLUgYsdEF0TUtWUWtUaUUzR1F2aUhEWW9lN2c#gid=0
I can't imagine pre-ordering for October at the same price and Gh as August. Again 25Gh orders further out should be cheaper as with the 400Gh model.

Here is a revised sheet with product lifetime profits at today's prices and an Aug difficulty of 64 Mill

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmeuPljmUNHCdEpqX2RmMDFwemJyLURVUWFtZ3J3aGc&usp=sharing
Nice work, I came on similar profit calculation. I do believe it will generate profit several months after 07/14. Diff wont raise at so much rate as in 2013. it would need more time for the same incrase e.g. imo its not linear.
I think 400ghs miner is "best buy". I would prefer even more for referance design release, to find best cooling and to squzee as much possible from the asic. With this in mind maybe just chips purchase is better option.
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July 13, 2013, 07:39:27 PM
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Anyone see this nice Bitcoin difficulty predictor? Looks like October might bring a difficulty over 100 million!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmXn4BnLUgYsdEF0TUtWUWtUaUUzR1F2aUhEWW9lN2c#gid=0
I can't imagine pre-ordering for October at the same price and Gh as August. Again 25Gh orders further out should be cheaper as with the 400Gh model.

Here is a revised sheet with product lifetime profits at today's prices and an Aug difficulty of 64 Mill on the manufacturers top end hardware

Combined Multiple Sheet Document https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmeuPljmUNHCdEpqX2RmMDFwemJyLURVUWFtZ3J3aGc&usp=sharing

Edit I have updated the document to have multiple sheets along with Comparison between Multiple ASIC Hardware Vendors Vs Difficulty Sheets.

Ah great work. Thank you!
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July 13, 2013, 09:25:51 PM
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Hey guys, just made a first custom housing design, take a look here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=255737.msg2723873#msg2723873

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July 13, 2013, 10:11:53 PM
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Hey guys, just made a first custom housing design, take a look here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=255737.msg2723873#msg2723873

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Foofighter looks nice Smiley some people have suggested a few options on your OP. But that is a great start.
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July 15, 2013, 07:40:02 AM
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BitPay not working at the moment ...

i tried to pay for an order ... with BitPay ...

it gets canceled ... right away ...

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An error has occurred while processing your payment, please try again. Or contact us for assistance.

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July 15, 2013, 09:24:00 AM
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When to expect August delivery starter kits ?

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July 15, 2013, 01:22:17 PM
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When to expect August delivery starter kits ?

AFTER they get the chips ... lets hope avalon will keep their word
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July 15, 2013, 01:28:23 PM
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When to expect August delivery starter kits ?

AFTER they get the chips ... lets hope avalon will keep their word

This is bitfury, not Avalon  Wink
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July 15, 2013, 01:48:07 PM
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I have a suspicion atm they might arrive before avalons......wouldn't that be a kicker lol Cheesy
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July 15, 2013, 04:51:10 PM
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When to expect August delivery starter kits ?

AFTER they get the chips ... lets hope avalon will keep their word

This is bitfury, not Avalon  Wink

My bad ! Cheesy
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July 15, 2013, 08:24:08 PM
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Hey guys, just made a first custom housing design, take a look here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=255737.msg2723873#msg2723873

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Foofighter looks nice Smiley some people have suggested a few options on your OP. But that is a great start.

Hey guys,  more feedback would be nice - will send the first inquiries to manufacturers on Thursday.

hope I could include all your wishes in the first run, of course changes are possible at every time.

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July 17, 2013, 07:59:31 AM
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hmmm ...

I'm experiencing long delays between, my payment over BitPay and the order status update from pending to processing (waiting over 10h) (2 tickets no answer)

One question that is still unanswered ... what about the VAT expenses that are falsely cleared on orders to switzerland or other non-EU countrys?

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July 17, 2013, 08:01:34 AM
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i heard punin got a very big email queue of support questions , several 100 emails.

So i would suggest to give him some time to catch up.

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July 17, 2013, 09:01:19 AM
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i heard punin got a very big email queue of support questions , several 100 emails.

So i would suggest to give him some time to catch up.

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Yes, this sounds right. We sent a question in a while ago and it took a little while to get a reply, but punin did get back to us with full answers to our questions. I'm sure he'll get back to you when he can.

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July 17, 2013, 09:17:24 AM
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Are the bitfury chips ready? i mean packaged and all?

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July 17, 2013, 09:22:37 AM
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Are the bitfury chips ready? i mean packaged and all?

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July 17, 2013, 01:24:04 PM
Last edit: July 17, 2013, 02:45:59 PM by goxed
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Sorry Smiley lol Smiley I mean chips that will be soldered onto the August boards Wink
Having been bitten by another ASIC vendor, I wanted to exercise caution.

BTW is  this feature still present in the chip?
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1) the chips have a build in power management / leveling system that we want to use (to save on power and additional pcb components: to power the boards and a string/series of chips with let's say 7.2V directly)  ... this is a crazy idea and we have to check if this works (we must avoid resonance buildup and power voltage osculations) before ordering many boards [[ comments here are very welcome !!! :-) ]]

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July 18, 2013, 09:57:42 AM
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Sorry Smiley lol Smiley I mean chips that will be soldered onto the August boards Wink
Having been bitten by another ASIC vendor, I wanted to exercise caution.

BTW is  this feature still present in the chip?
Code:
1) the chips have a build in power management / leveling system that we want to use (to save on power and additional pcb components: to power the boards and a string/series of chips with let's say 7.2V directly)  ... this is a crazy idea and we have to check if this works (we must avoid resonance buildup and power voltage osculations) before ordering many boards [[ comments here are very welcome !!! :-) ]]

Yes, this feature is built-in on chip. We are currently testing this feature.

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July 18, 2013, 10:32:35 AM
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Sorry Smiley lol Smiley I mean chips that will be soldered onto the August boards Wink
Having been bitten by another ASIC vendor, I wanted to exercise caution.

BTW is  this feature still present in the chip?
Code:
1) the chips have a build in power management / leveling system that we want to use (to save on power and additional pcb components: to power the boards and a string/series of chips with let's say 7.2V directly)  ... this is a crazy idea and we have to check if this works (we must avoid resonance buildup and power voltage osculations) before ordering many boards [[ comments here are very welcome !!! :-) ]]

Yes, this feature is built-in on chip. We are currently testing this feature.
Okay if it works, even lower BOM Smiley Maybe it can be implemented on rev 2 H-boards for October delivery.

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July 18, 2013, 12:16:37 PM
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Are the bitfury chips ready? i mean packaged and all?

LOL:)


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No offend, but:
1 -  How we can be sure that there are more than a few hundred partially efficient chips (2,3GH/s instead 5Gh/s) cut out of from center test wafer?
2 - Do we have any guarantee that TSMC this year let Bitfurry on their already heavily loaded production lines?
3 - In my opinion all money from preorder go to corrections that must be made ​​to the chip. Than start small quantity test wafers. Unless Bitfury wants to introduce the production of something that had passed with the assumptions for more than 50%.
And if it is so weak performance whether for a few months, these chips will still work? Were the tests performed life-time chip in extremely adverse conditions to determine how quickly degrades structure?
Its very impressive start very risk development so high (55nm) and get working chip. And I am not speaking here against this project, but before invest will see what I'm dealing with.

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